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Post by Den60 on Sept 13, 2024 7:36:43 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is. Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it. Fresno's FB has been much better than UNLV. And UNLV's basketball hasn't been enough to overtake Fresno, whose BB program is sucky. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 13, 2024 7:43:02 GMT -8
I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. That would be outstanding. utsa has no market penetration and their facilities are substandard. |
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Post by poster17 on Sept 13, 2024 8:53:06 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is. Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it. All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. Those reports are wrong. UNLV and UNR are not tied together. They weren't in the PCAA with UNLV. They weren't in the Big West with UNLV. They didn't go to the WAC with them. They didn't go to the MWC with then. They eventually got into those conference (minus PCAA), but in no way do they come with them side by side. |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 13, 2024 8:58:45 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is. Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it. All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. Have seen this report from a reputable source? |
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Post by dirtball on Sept 13, 2024 9:09:38 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is. Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it. All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. When this was going down last year with the P12. UNLV was a nonstarter for the P12. They had Fresno and CSU (this was with CO in conference) ranked above them as possible candidates. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 13, 2024 9:16:39 GMT -8
All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. Have seen this report from a reputable source? The UNLV & Nevada linkage has been reported by Canzano, Wliner, 365 Sports (Big XII) and other outlets. The Nevada Regents preferred to keep both schools in the same conference, dropping UNLV down to "a round two" priority for the new PAC. Other working theories from the bozo's at 365 Sports, we're that Brett Yormack and the Big XII had their eyes on UNLV given all the professional sports activities in the city, so UNLV is waiting for that offer. Not sure if Dellenger, Dodds & McMurphy have weighed in on UNLV/Nevada back fill issues. |
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Post by TPAztec on Sept 13, 2024 9:16:56 GMT -8
I think it's the state legislature. Nevada and UNLV are different, but i think it's the legislature's prefrence to keep them together. However, if UNLV does join the PAC, could potentially see better revenue.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 13, 2024 9:23:39 GMT -8
All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. Have seen this report from a reputable source? Ross Dellenger who broke the whole story in the first place. |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Sept 13, 2024 9:36:42 GMT -8
All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. Have seen this report from a reputable source? So, Ross Dellenger the guy that broke the story doesn’t count? Clearly you didn’t read any of his articles. |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 13, 2024 9:45:25 GMT -8
Have seen this report from a reputable source? So, Ross Dellenger the guy that broke the story doesn’t count? Clearly you didn’t read any of his articles. Was just asking. Seems strange that UNLV and Reno are tied at the hip but Ore/OSU and Wash/WSU are not. |
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Post by northparkaztec on Sept 13, 2024 10:01:24 GMT -8
Isn't this another bad look for the PAC2?
They couldn't even land the 3rd most obvious addition, and have to settle for CSU and Fresno as backups?
In the new college landscape, nothing comes close to UNLV.
Boise is only obvious for football and tbf recent bball success.
But aren't major cities needed?
Being generous and counting Fresno as a major city, there's only 2 out of the 6....?
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Post by hoobs on Sept 13, 2024 10:20:10 GMT -8
So, Ross Dellenger the guy that broke the story doesn’t count? Clearly you didn’t read any of his articles. Was just asking. Seems strange that UNLV and Reno are tied at the hip but Ore/OSU and Wash/WSU are not. It's down to the actions of the various state governments |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 13, 2024 10:30:10 GMT -8
Isn't this another bad look for the PAC2? They couldn't even land the 3rd most obvious addition, and have to settle for CSU and Fresno as backups? In the new college landscape, nothing comes close to UNLV. Boise is only obvious for football and tbf recent bball success. But aren't major cities needed? Being generous and counting Fresno as a major city, there's only 2 out of the 6....? Fresno owns the Central Valley to include the Sacramento DMA… they have a way bigger market than UNLV, which is why ESPN asked the P10 to add them with State over a year ago… P10 said no… UNLV isn’t even the strongest brand in their win market, massive amount of transplants… WSU is clearly second to UW, but they have a strong presence in Seattle… OSU is also a clear second to Oregon, but they have a significant presence in Portland… CSU is a clear second to Colorado, but also have a decent presence in Denver… FSU owns Sacramento and the valley… State has San Diego… leaving BSU who still has some National cache and pretty much owns all of Idaho… it isn’t as bad as you would have us believe… |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 13, 2024 10:31:20 GMT -8
Isn't this another bad look for the PAC2? They couldn't even land the 3rd most obvious addition, and have to settle for CSU and Fresno as backups? In the new college landscape, nothing comes close to UNLV. Boise is only obvious for football and tbf recent bball success. But aren't major cities needed? Being generous and counting Fresno as a major city, there's only 2 out of the 6....? Also, UNLV weren’t even asked to submit an application… for right or wrong PAC 2 weren’t interested, yet |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 13, 2024 10:49:08 GMT -8
Isn't this another bad look for the PAC2? They couldn't even land the 3rd most obvious addition, and have to settle for CSU and Fresno as backups? In the new college landscape, nothing comes close to UNLV. Boise is only obvious for football and tbf recent bball success. But aren't major cities needed? Being generous and counting Fresno as a major city, there's only 2 out of the 6....? Also, UNLV weren’t even asked to submit an application… for right or wrong PAC 2 weren’t interested, yet Wow |
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Post by northparkaztec on Sept 13, 2024 11:01:48 GMT -8
Wasnt trying to have anyone believe anything. The post framed in the form of a question, and attempting to understand the news. That is all. Isn't this another bad look for the PAC2? They couldn't even land the 3rd most obvious addition, and have to settle for CSU and Fresno as backups? In the new college landscape, nothing comes close to UNLV. Boise is only obvious for football and tbf recent bball success. But aren't major cities needed? Being generous and counting Fresno as a major city, there's only 2 out of the 6....? Fresno owns the Central Valley to include the Sacramento DMA… they have a way bigger market than UNLV, which is why ESPN asked the P10 to add them with State over a year ago… P10 said no… UNLV isn’t even the strongest brand in their win market, massive amount of transplants… WSU is clearly second to UW, but they have a strong presence in Seattle… OSU is also a clear second to Oregon, but they have a significant presence in Portland… CSU is a clear second to Colorado, but also have a decent presence in Denver… FSU owns Sacramento and the valley… State has San Diego… leaving BSU who still has some National cache and pretty much owns all of Idaho… it isn’t as bad as you would have us believe… |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 13, 2024 11:29:34 GMT -8
In the last 20 years, the Fresno/Visalia media market has increased from 57 to 53 (521,160 households to 634,120).
In that same period, the Las Vegas media market has grown from 51 to 40 (601,700 households to 870,240).
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Post by namssa on Sept 13, 2024 11:39:23 GMT -8
I was listening to The Monty Show and he said his sources told him that the PAC2 approached UNLV first but they asked for more time and more information so they moved on to Colorado State. Take it for what it's worth.
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Post by Gundo on Sept 13, 2024 17:18:10 GMT -8
I think it's the state legislature. Nevada and UNLV are different, but i think it's the legislature's prefrence to keep them together. However, if UNLV does join the PAC, could potentially see better revenue. I listened to three podcasts and yes, UNLV and Nevada are linked based on the Nevada Regents who don't want to split the two schools up. UNLV has a athletic budget much larger than Nevada which makes it difficult to invite both. However, UNLV may play at Allegiant Stadium, however, financially they made more money at their own Sam Boyd Stadium. The Raiders set up a waterfall account for UNLV to break even and cover shortfalls. UNLV doesn't have the same benefits that the Aztecs do at Snapdragon, as SDSU owns the stadium. UNLV rents out Allegiant, but can't drive much incremental revenue off the stadium. Like most things in Vegas, its beautiful, but not a money maker for the school, a money maker for the owner/landlord. |
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Post by chris92065 on Sept 13, 2024 17:23:38 GMT -8
I think it's the state legislature. Nevada and UNLV are different, but i think it's the legislature's prefrence to keep them together. However, if UNLV does join the PAC, could potentially see better revenue. I listened to three podcasts and yes, UNLV and Nevada are linked based on the Nevada Regents who don't want to split the two schools up. UNLV has a athletic budget much larger than Nevada which makes it difficult to invite both. However, UNLV may play at Allegiant Stadium, however, financially they made more money at their own Sam Boyd Stadium. The Raiders set up a waterfall account for UNLV to break even and cover shortfalls. UNLV doesn't have the same benefits that the Aztecs do at Snapdragon, as SDSU owns the stadium. UNLV rents out Allegiant, but can't drive much incremental revenue off the stadium. Like most things in Vegas, its beautiful, but not a money maker for the school, a money maker for the owner/landlord. Way toooooo many options now in Vegas. Unlv had the chance to solidify their standing in the community but f-cked up big time. Before long Vegas will have Soccer NBA MLB NFL NHL I wouldn’t add unlv. The state of Nevada is dead to us. I think this acc thing will come to a conclusion sooner rather than later. There wlll be much better options. |
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