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Post by Den60 on Sept 12, 2024 15:23:31 GMT -8
I think UNLV and Nevada are a package deal right now. Have they ever been a package deal? That would be a no. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 12, 2024 15:35:46 GMT -8
I’ve listen to a couple news conferences. If you believe the people talking are giving the honest truth, this wasn’t really discussed until the MW & PAC-2 couldn’t come to an agreement. At that point there were discussions but it really picked up steam within the last week. I’m guessing UNLV has an invite but they need to come without Nevada and that is going to take some time. I’d imagine the other school is east of Colorado but there wasn’t a consensus on school. I'm not buying that, sorry. I think parties have been talking for a while now. OSU/Wazzu didn't want to do anything until all the departing schools were fully committed to their new conferences, which happened in early August. Sounds like they tried to get a deal with the B12 and finally got told, "not in a million year" and decided they weren't "dumb and dumber." Something like this certainly doesn't happen spontaneously in a week. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 12, 2024 15:40:04 GMT -8
I'd be okay with UNLV & Nevada to get to the minimum 8 schools Nevada not at a full share then. Sorry, they are one of the reasons we are leaving, they spend near the bottom of the conference and are in a small market. I don't want to subsidize either. Sounds harsh, but they voted to make it more expensive for us to leave and voted to increase the number of conference games in the conference. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 12, 2024 15:42:41 GMT -8
I'd take Tulane and Memphis first. In theory yes, but I sense a vibe that the new-Pac wants to stay Pacific & Mountain time only re. geography They have been mentioned, however. They make more sense if you take two other AAC schools in Texas. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 12, 2024 15:43:50 GMT -8
I'd be okay with UNLV & Nevada to get to the minimum 8 schools Nevada not at a full share then. Sorry, they are one of the reasons we are leaving, they spend near the bottom of the conference and are in a small market. I don't want to subsidize either. Sounds harsh, but they voted to make it more expensive for us to leave and voted to increase the number of conference games in the conference. I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 12, 2024 15:45:33 GMT -8
Would any Texas schools make sense? Pretty prime recruiting ground, right? UTSA bring you San Antonio, the 7th largest city in the US (we are 8th). They have no football team and Texans love their football. They are not a full member of the ACC, so they likely would have a smaller exit penalty. They've only been a FBS school for like a dozen years UNT is in Denton, part of the Dallas Fort Worth metro center. Also not a full member of the AAC. Biggest prizes would be Memphis and Tulane though I think UTSA has a very high ceiling. UTSA HAS a football team, they play in the Alamo Dome, and they are in the AAC. Other than that... |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 12, 2024 16:03:54 GMT -8
Nevada not at a full share then. Sorry, they are one of the reasons we are leaving, they spend near the bottom of the conference and are in a small market. I don't want to subsidize either. Sounds harsh, but they voted to make it more expensive for us to leave and voted to increase the number of conference games in the conference. I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. That would be outstanding. |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Sept 12, 2024 16:34:41 GMT -8
Nevada not at a full share then. Sorry, they are one of the reasons we are leaving, they spend near the bottom of the conference and are in a small market. I don't want to subsidize either. Sounds harsh, but they voted to make it more expensive for us to leave and voted to increase the number of conference games in the conference. I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. If Cal and Stanford did bounce back. SMU would highly likely come as well. |
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Post by montysden on Sept 12, 2024 17:03:36 GMT -8
I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. If Cal and Stanford did bounce back. SMU would highly likely come as well. It would probably be just SMU and Cal and only if they absolutely had to. Stanford would go independent in a heartbeat rather than be associated with Boise State. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 12, 2024 19:15:15 GMT -8
From the sound of things, there is no desire to go above 8 unless really great options become available from the ACC.
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 12, 2024 19:30:45 GMT -8
It's funny how Cal and Stanford are still "in the mix". Wyoming? Pffft puh lease. Why and who is talking WYO?  That is bats#!t crazy!!! Oh he'll no!!!! |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 12, 2024 19:43:17 GMT -8
Listening to JD and the pres in their news conference, it doesn't sound like UNLV is in the mix at all. De la Torre said the Pac selected the best four and that was it.
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Post by jdaztec on Sept 12, 2024 19:54:10 GMT -8
From what I am hearing UNLV is in the mix but PAC 2 wanted to move fast and at least lock down the first 4. UNLV is evidently tied to Nevada and it may take some manuring at The Legislative level to untie them. Also sounds like there are some central time zone ( ie Tulane, Memphis , etc) , or Texas teams possibly in the mix. For what it's worth Jon Schaffer thinks we will hear about the next two teams in anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks he doesn't think it will take months. They may want to move quickly in order to hammer out a tv deal.
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Post by fisherville on Sept 12, 2024 20:13:56 GMT -8
Cal and Stanford is a pipedream, even beyond the ACC being more attractive than this conference the fee the pac 12 would have to pay to ACC to get Cal/Stanford on board would make it a net negative for the pac 12.
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Sept 12, 2024 20:25:18 GMT -8
Cal and Stanford is a pipedream, even beyond the ACC being more attractive than this conference the fee the pac 12 would have to pay to ACC to get Cal/Stanford on board would make it a net negative for the pac 12. It really is a pipedream. Hoping for another implosion to occur, and THEN somehow have Cal and Stanford made a resultant series of decisions that puts them in a conference with Boise and Fresno State (where they would NEVER want to be) is not realistic. |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 12, 2024 21:35:24 GMT -8
From what I am hearing UNLV is in the mix but PAC 2 wanted to move fast and at least lock down the first 4. UNLV is evidently tied to Nevada and it may take some manuring* at The Legislative level to untie them. Also sounds like there are some central time zone ( ie Tulane, Memphis , etc) , or Texas teams possibly in the mix. For what it's worth Jon Schaffer thinks we will hear about the next two teams in anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks he doesn't think it will take months. They may want to move quickly in order to hammer out a tv deal. * manuring: verb
gerund or present participle: manuring
apply manure to (land).
"the ground should be well dug and manured
That probably isn't what you meant, but it still might apply.
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 13, 2024 6:06:01 GMT -8
From the sound of things, there is no desire to go above 8 unless really great options become available from the ACC. JD said he would preferably have 9 football playing teams (8 conference games)and 10 basketball playing teams (18 conference games) |
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Post by dirtball on Sept 13, 2024 6:32:52 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is.
Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 13, 2024 7:33:49 GMT -8
There is something the P12 and now the P2 don't like about UNLV. Both Fresno and Colorado State were ranked higher as possible candidates prior to the conference crumbling. I'm not sure what it is. Based on the population in Vegas, the school sports are really overshadowed by pro sports teams. Maybe that's it. All reports keep saying it’s because they can’t leave Nevada behind. I believe that over the next 6 months they’ll find a way and be added. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 13, 2024 7:35:32 GMT -8
I agree! UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA These should be the targets to get to 10 teams and then hope for a bounce back from Cal and Stanford to get to 12. If Cal and Stanford did bounce back. SMU would highly likely come as well. Why? |
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That is bats#!t crazy!!! Oh he'll no!!!!
