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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:01:30 GMT -8
You do understand that freedom of speech can ONLY be abridged by the government, don't you? Private businesses can choose to NOT be associated with companies and people who have been seen on video committing acts of insurrection and that is not declaring anyone guilty or a freedom lost. Wasn't looking to prosecute them. I am showing what a world living under the control of progressive totalitarians looks like. No, you're showing you have no comprehension over basic concepts like restrictions to the First Amendment. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 11, 2021 16:03:10 GMT -8
I'm starting to wonder if we want people who support those who engage in treason, sedition, and insurrection here on Aztec Mesa.
It really isn't a good look to have people posting sympathetic posts to those who have committed despicable, heinous acts against this country and it's people.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 11, 2021 16:07:14 GMT -8
You do understand the rule of law, don't you? No one is guilty until proven so in a court of law. Another freedom lost it seems. Tech Overlords make the call on Parler and others strictly on optics and political preference. This is pure nonsense and the ideas are not remotely similar. It's once again private entities that are taking action, as they are allowed to do. What do you not grasp about this simple concept? Again, these are supposed to be services available to the general public. There is no proof of criminality that Parler is aiding and abetting. It is strictly a case of hatred for the founder's and user's politics. Remember, you are a baker and you have to bake a cake for everyone or don't bother opening your doors for commerce. I have asked and asked...Is it ok to discriminate based on political affiliation? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:07:40 GMT -8
I'm starting to wonder if we want people who support those who engage in treason, sedition, and insurrection here on Aztec Mesa. It really isn't a good look to have people posting sympathetic posts to those who have committed despicable, heinous acts against this country and it's people. I wouldn't advocate for banning anyone, but having no ability to comprehend basic concepts and arguing non-debatable points is foolish. Things not up for debate... 1. Donald Trump should be impeached for insurrection. Forget about the optics of his last days. He committed a crime. He was actively trying to call Tommy Tuberville DURING THE RIOT to seek further delay on Biden's certification. 2. GOP mwmbers of Congress need to be held accountable for their gaslighting. Brooks, Rubio, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert, etc. 3. Failing to act and just moving on is not accountability, it's not unity, it's placating to a sycophant. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 11, 2021 16:10:19 GMT -8
I'm starting to wonder if we want people who support those who engage in treason, sedition, and insurrection here on Aztec Mesa. It really isn't a good look to have people posting sympathetic posts to those who have committed despicable, heinous acts against this country and it's people. I wouldn't advocate for banning anyone, but having no ability to comprehend basic concepts and arguing non-debatable points is foolish. Things not up for debate... 1. Donald Trump should be impeached for insurrection. Forget about the optics of his last days. He committed a crime. He was actively trying to call Tommy Tuberville DURING THE RIOT to seek further delay on Biden's certification. 2. GOP mwmbers of Congress need to be held accountable for their gaslighting. Brooks, Rubio, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert, etc. 3. Failing to act and just moving on is not accountability, it's not unity, it's placating to a sycophant. It would be in keeping with the trend, however. Don't like the speech, ban it. This isn't the Government.... |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:11:11 GMT -8
This is pure nonsense and the ideas are not remotely similar. It's once again private entities that are taking action, as they are allowed to do. What do you not grasp about this simple concept? Again, these are supposed to be services available to the general public. There is no proof of criminality that Parler is aiding and abetting. It is strictly a case of hatred for the founder's and user's politics. Remember, you are a baker and you have to bake a cake for everyone or don't bother opening your doors for commerce. I have asked and asked...Is it ok to discriminate based on political affiliation? Nobody is discriminating. Parler was ordered to moderate their content by their hosting server. They refused to do so. You do not get to incite insurrection, advocate for mass murder and the execution of public officials without consequence. If you emailed the president and threatened to execute him, there would be consequences for your actions. This is mindblowing how you expect to just disregard abuses of simple practices here. You are comparing cake with murder. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:12:04 GMT -8
I wouldn't advocate for banning anyone, but having no ability to comprehend basic concepts and arguing non-debatable points is foolish. Things not up for debate... 1. Donald Trump should be impeached for insurrection. Forget about the optics of his last days. He committed a crime. He was actively trying to call Tommy Tuberville DURING THE RIOT to seek further delay on Biden's certification. 2. GOP mwmbers of Congress need to be held accountable for their gaslighting. Brooks, Rubio, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert, etc. 3. Failing to act and just moving on is not accountability, it's not unity, it's placating to a sycophant. It would be in keeping with the trend, however. Don't like the speech, ban it. That isn't what's happening. Man, someone needs to get your head on straight. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 11, 2021 16:12:58 GMT -8
Again, these are supposed to be services available to the general public. There is no proof of criminality that Parler is aiding and abetting. It is strictly a case of hatred for the founder's and user's politics. Remember, you are a baker and you have to bake a cake for everyone or don't bother opening your doors for commerce. I have asked and asked...Is it ok to discriminate based on political affiliation? Nobody is discriminating. Parler was ordered to moderate their content by their hosting server. They refused to do so. You do not get to incite insurrection, advocate for mass murder and the execution of public officials without consequence. If you emailed the president and threatened to execute him, there would be consequences for your actions. This is mindblowing how you expect to just disregard abuses of simple practices here. You are comparing cake with murder. So the baker can "order" the customer to not be gay? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:16:07 GMT -8
Nobody is discriminating. Parler was ordered to moderate their content by their hosting server. They refused to do so. You do not get to incite insurrection, advocate for mass murder and the execution of public officials without consequence. If you emailed the president and threatened to execute him, there would be consequences for your actions. This is mindblowing how you expect to just disregard abuses of simple practices here. You are comparing cake with murder. So the baker can "order" the customer to not be gay? The "baker" can order obviously dangerous content to be moderated. Your stupid example aside, that's what happened here. You are literally arguing for insurrection. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 11, 2021 16:17:09 GMT -8
Nobody is discriminating. Parler was ordered to moderate their content by their hosting server. They refused to do so. You do not get to incite insurrection, advocate for mass murder and the execution of public officials without consequence. If you emailed the president and threatened to execute him, there would be consequences for your actions. This is mindblowing how you expect to just disregard abuses of simple practices here. You are comparing cake with murder. So the baker can "order" the customer to not be gay? OK. now you're trolling, which is a TOS violation. Follow the rules or become Parler. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 11, 2021 16:18:14 GMT -8
I'm starting to wonder if we want people who support those who engage in treason, sedition, and insurrection here on Aztec Mesa. It really isn't a good look to have people posting sympathetic posts to those who have committed despicable, heinous acts against this country and it's people. It may be our fault for engaging them. I am not saying everybody has to agree, but there is a point where you are talking to a brick wall. Parler only took down threats against Mike Pence's life under extreme pressure. The Cult has become dangerous to America. Again, you can't yell fire in a theater. The Pence issue is a great example. After years of promoting moral values and the tea party budget ideas, guys like ptsdthor have thrown everything out the window to go all in with the cult figure. Has he once come to Pence defense?.. answer is no. We are dealing with an ideological cult here. These people would throw everything out the window to not go against the orange shyster. They hate Arnold, who came here with nothing and became a self made man. Instead they worship a man-child who was making $750,000 a year at 7 years old and shits in a gold plated toilet. The sad part is trump doesn't give a rip about these losers (trumps words), and has never hung out with them in his life. What he found was the easiest segment of society to manipulate, and a lot of people bought the program. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 11, 2021 16:34:16 GMT -8
How many terrorist cells have used G-Mail in the past? SF Tech allows the "Attacker of our Elections" Russian president Vladimir Putin or "Torturer of the Uighurs" Chinese president Xi Jinping or "Sponsor of Terror" Iran's Ali Khamenei and "Starves his People" Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro to tweet, etc. but Parler is just too much? SMH. Trolling? What is that? Poking a hole in an argument?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:38:08 GMT -8
How many terrorist cells have used G-Mail in the past? SF Tech allows the "Attacker of our Elections" Russian president Vladimir Putin or "Torturer of the Uighurs" Chinese president Xi Jinping or "Sponsor of Terror" Iran's Ali Khamenei and "Starves his People" Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro to tweet, etc. but Parler is just too much? SMH. Trolling? What is that? Poking a hole in an argument? Did any of those people incite insurrection against our own government? No? Okay then. You're not poking holes in anything. You're literally saying advocating for the murder of individuals is okay. |
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Post by azson on Jan 11, 2021 16:42:19 GMT -8
Along with this officer who was the only line of defense. The doors to the Senate chamber are right behind him. He was treated with racial slurs. He doesn't need to mention they were "white rioters." It only adds to the chaos. Page three of the thread and THIS is what you choose to chime in on first? And you wonder why Ryan responds to you the way he does? |
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Post by azson on Jan 11, 2021 16:46:32 GMT -8
 Picture of Amazon, Apple and Google execs about to torch Parler servers. Raise your hand if digital book burning is your new normal. /photo/1 |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 16:55:07 GMT -8
He doesn't need to mention they were "white rioters." It only adds to the chaos. Page three of the thread and THIS is what you choose to chime in on first? And you wonder why Ryan responds to you the way he does? I just think it's looking at trees instead of the entire forest. Same argument was made in the Culture and Values subtopic when he thought mentioning white people exacerbated the problem of systemic racism...but that IS the problem. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 11, 2021 17:40:28 GMT -8
How many terrorist cells have used G-Mail in the past? SF Tech allows the "Attacker of our Elections" Russian president Vladimir Putin or "Torturer of the Uighurs" Chinese president Xi Jinping or "Sponsor of Terror" Iran's Ali Khamenei and "Starves his People" Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro to tweet, etc. but Parler is just too much? SMH. Trolling? What is that? Poking a hole in an argument? Did any of those people incite insurrection against our own government? No? Okay then. You're not poking holes in anything. You're literally saying advocating for the murder of individuals is okay. So glad that with SF Tech's vigilance, Antifa and BLM protests, that more than often turned violent including murder after murder, were not able to organize their events using social media platforms supported by Google, Apple and AWS  . |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 11, 2021 17:57:11 GMT -8
Did any of those people incite insurrection against our own government? No? Okay then. You're not poking holes in anything. You're literally saying advocating for the murder of individuals is okay. So glad that with SF Tech's vigilance, Antifa and BLM protests, that more than often turned violent including murder after murder, were not able to organize their events using social media platforms supported by Google, Apple and AWS . Last time I checked they didn't try to overthrow the government and invalidate a valid election. I don't agree with their methods, but their grievances are valid. Trumpublicans' complaints about the election are not valid. They are based on lies and fantasies, not reality. I really hope we're not going to see more trolling, because I'm really not liking the support of those who planned and acted out a coup attempt, and those who supported them and enabled them. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 17:57:31 GMT -8
Did any of those people incite insurrection against our own government? No? Okay then. You're not poking holes in anything. You're literally saying advocating for the murder of individuals is okay. So glad that with SF Tech's vigilance, Antifa and BLM protests, that more than often turned violent including murder after murder, were not able to organize their events using social media platforms supported by Google, Apple and AWS . Another false equivalence. Murder after murder? How many murders occurred that were actually attributed to violent protests? Did they threaten the line of succession to the American presidency? Did they try to hang the vice president with a noose in the National Mall? Did they show up with napalm and assault rifles? Straws. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 11, 2021 18:24:35 GMT -8
So glad that with SF Tech's vigilance, Antifa and BLM protests, that more than often turned violent including murder after murder, were not able to organize their events using social media platforms supported by Google, Apple and AWS . Another false equivalence. Murder after murder? How many murders occurred that were actually attributed to violent protests? Did they threaten the line of succession to the American presidency? Did they try to hang the vice president with a noose in the National Mall? Did they show up with napalm and assault rifles? Straws. Maybe you should ask ptsdthor if he condems the Capitol building attack. I dont remember him doing so. |
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