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Post by johneaztec on Jan 11, 2021 18:34:06 GMT -8
Absolutely. Any time I see someone mention race when I feel it's unneeded, I speak out. I feel no matter the situation, if race doesn't need to be singled out, you don't do it. They were trying to get into the doors behind him and he courageously stopped them. They weren't chasing him, or targeting him, because he's black. I've mentioned it before, but my best friend, who is more like a brother to me, is black and he HATES it when race is brought up needlessly. We have that in common amongst many other things. You say I'm objecting to one word in a headline, but it's a very powerful word/statement. It's also the truth. Which is the only thing that always matters. You don't seem to understand the ramifications here of the parties involved. And it's again distracting from what's actually important. I don't think you understand the ramifications of pointing out race when it's not needed. It fuels the flame of many when someone does it. It's irresponsible to bring up when the situation doesn't call for it. In this situation, like I said, we have an individual who did a courageous thing by confronting an angry mob. The mob wasn't going after a black person. They wanted people inside for other reasons. If you want to be one of those that pulls out the race card ALL THE TIME, then that's on you. You say he's stating a fact that they were white, so should we bring up people's race ALL THE TIME in ALL situations when it's not needed? Again, they weren't targeting him. They were trying to get inside the doors. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 11, 2021 18:40:08 GMT -8
He doesn't need to mention they were "white rioters." It only adds to the chaos. Page three of the thread and THIS is what you choose to chime in on first? And you wonder why Ryan responds to you the way he does? Well, I agree with a lot of the things that had been previously posted. It happens to be a pet peeve of mine. Did you notice that I also mentioned how courageous he was? By mentioning race when not needed, I think that absolutely contributes to the hatred out there. It fans the flame of a very dangerous situation in our society right now. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 18:50:47 GMT -8
It's also the truth. Which is the only thing that always matters. You don't seem to understand the ramifications here of the parties involved. And it's again distracting from what's actually important. I don't think you understand the ramifications of pointing out race when it's not needed. It fuels the flame of many when someone does it. It's irresponsible to bring up when the situation doesn't call for it. In this situation, like I said, we have an individual who did a courageous thing by confronting an angry mob. The mob wasn't going after a black person. They wanted people inside for other reasons. If you want to be one of those that pulls out the race card ALL THE TIME, then that's on you. You say he's stating a fact that they were white, so should we bring up people's race ALL THE TIME in ALL situations when it's not needed? Again, they weren't targeting him. They were trying to get inside the doors. It's your opinion that it isn’t needed - You're protecting racism here though, just FYI. You misunderstand what I'm saying, since I'm not playing the race card. It has nothing to do with his skin color, it has everything to do with the skin color of the oppressors. In a crowd full of Neo-Nazis, what do you think their primary agenda is focused on? What do you think they would have done to that officer if they cornered him? These are necessary questions to ask. Again, I don't care about their feelings. They are of no consequence to me. They didn't mind whatsoever blaming the BLM movement with impunity without facts. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 11, 2021 18:59:01 GMT -8
I don't think you understand the ramifications of pointing out race when it's not needed. It fuels the flame of many when someone does it. It's irresponsible to bring up when the situation doesn't call for it. In this situation, like I said, we have an individual who did a courageous thing by confronting an angry mob. The mob wasn't going after a black person. They wanted people inside for other reasons. If you want to be one of those that pulls out the race card ALL THE TIME, then that's on you. You say he's stating a fact that they were white, so should we bring up people's race ALL THE TIME in ALL situations when it's not needed? Again, they weren't targeting him. They were trying to get inside the doors. It's your opinion that it isn’t needed - You're protecting racism here though, just FYI. You misunderstand what I'm saying, since I'm not playing the race card. It has nothing to do with his skin color, it has everything to do with the skin color of the oppressors. In a crowd full of Neo-Nazis, what do you think their primary agenda is focused on? What do you think they would have done to that officer if they cornered him? These are necessary questions to ask. I think black, white, yellow, green or purple, they would have beat him simply because that individual was in their way. They wanted to get in those doors big time. WHOEVER was trying to stop them was against them. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 19:07:04 GMT -8
It's your opinion that it isn’t needed - You're protecting racism here though, just FYI. You misunderstand what I'm saying, since I'm not playing the race card. It has nothing to do with his skin color, it has everything to do with the skin color of the oppressors. In a crowd full of Neo-Nazis, what do you think their primary agenda is focused on? What do you think they would have done to that officer if they cornered him? These are necessary questions to ask. I think black, white, yellow, green or purple, they would have beat him simply because that individual was in their way. They wanted to get in those doors big time. WHOEVER was trying to stop them was against them. Probably true. But it doesn't diminish the overarching elements in play here that are necessary to deal with when you're evaluating the agenda of white supremacists. I have a feeling this situation is far from over between now and Trump's departure. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 19:19:29 GMT -8
Maybe this is why it matters.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 12, 2021 7:26:10 GMT -8
 Picture of Amazon, Apple and Google execs about to torch Parler servers. Raise your hand if digital book burning is your new normal. /photo/1 Remember, Twitter and Facebook both censored the legitimate and true story on Hunter and Joe in the New York Post for the sake of political power. That is Orwellian save for in the minds of the True Belivers. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 8:29:34 GMT -8
Remember, Twitter and Facebook both censored the legitimate and true story on Hunter and Joe in the New York Post for the sake of political power. That is Orwellian save for in the minds of the True Belivers. There's no proof. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 12, 2021 13:57:49 GMT -8
Another false equivalence. Murder after murder? How many murders occurred that were actually attributed to violent protests? Did they threaten the line of succession to the American presidency? Did they try to hang the vice president with a noose in the National Mall? Did they show up with napalm and assault rifles? Straws. Maybe you should ask ptsdthor if he condems the Capitol building attack. I dont remember him doing so. In the "Whats Happening...." thread: "The protesters today are culpable of idiocy, anarchy, lawlessness, etc. and deserve the legal penalties as appropriate just as the left leaning protesters should have been in 2016, this summer, etc." And where is your condemnation of the "Summer of Love" and the stated fear of and the desire for censorship of the leaders in the various groups/movements that caused the murder and mayhem? Trump had conceded by the 7th and threat of rioting was primarily over. Trump asked for calm, etc. Twitter went into "Thought Police" mode and tortured the two Trump's tweets on the 8th into something they were not. I suspect Twitter booted Trump not expecting the reaction relative to Parler. We have seen Twitter and Facebook go Orwellian to protect/project political power in the past, so spare me if I don't believe the leftist narrative on the motivations of the trio for doing the Parler attack. When Twitter booted Trump on the 8th, all the SF Tech immediately saw Parler move to the #1 App on Apple and Google App Stores and saw that Parler was adding hundreds of thousands new members within a few short hours. Amazon was hosting the Parler servers and they were being crushed under the load. Do you think they were all just going to sit there twiddling their thumbs and watch Billions and Billions of future revenue go the way of their competitor & Trump/GOP friendly social media platforms without any pushback? Remember, these are the organizations that likely had "cry-ins" for their woke employees in November of 2016 (see the leaked video of Google's pathetic reaction to the election, for example). Amazon = WaPo = Fake News = hates Trump with a passion. Google, besides having the cry-ins, has YouTube. Rumble, YouTube's competitor, is a Parler affiliate. And who can really know all the business co-dependencies and intertwined revenue streams that Twitter, Apple and Google have (as Twitter has been on the Apple iPhone & Google Droid platforms for years and years)? Getting to a good case of guilt, you need to show motive, means and opportunity. Their motive was not only obviously political (which had been enough for Twitter to act badly before), it was monetary also (hugely monetary!). The means were the spiking of the Parler app on the respective App Stores and the removing the Hosting Service. The Opportunity was brought about by the Reichstag Fire and the cover/rational it would provide. Parler is now dark and the feeding frenzy of new membership is over. Strange how that worked out. To think the left is just caring about the loss of life when they spiked Parler, you should consider how much they cared about life as they stood back and watched (and seemingly condoned) the violence, mayhem and occasional murders since Ferguson, 2014 to the Fall of 2020. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 12, 2021 15:50:25 GMT -8
Maybe you should ask ptsdthor if he condems the Capitol building attack. I dont remember him doing so. In the "Whats Happening...." thread: "The protesters today are culpable of idiocy, anarchy, lawlessness, etc. and deserve the legal penalties as appropriate just as the left leaning protesters should have been in 2016, this summer, etc." And where is your condemnation of the "Summer of Love" and the stated fear of and the desire for censorship of the leaders in the various groups/movements that caused the murder and mayhem? Trump had conceded by the 7th and threat of rioting was primarily over. Trump asked for calm, etc. Twitter went into "Thought Police" mode and tortured the two Trump's tweets on the 8th into something they were not. I suspect Twitter booted Trump not expecting the reaction relative to Parler. We have seen Twitter and Facebook go Orwellian to protect/project political power in the past, so spare me if I don't believe the leftist narrative on the motivations of the trio for doing the Parler attack. When Twitter booted Trump on the 8th, all the SF Tech immediately saw Parler move to the #1 App on Apple and Google App Stores and saw that Parler was adding hundreds of thousands new members within a few short hours. Amazon was hosting the Parler servers and they were being crushed under the load. Do you think they were all just going to sit there twiddling their thumbs and watch Billions and Billions of future revenue go the way of their competitor & Trump/GOP friendly social media platforms without any pushback? Remember, these are the organizations that likely had "cry-ins" for their woke employees in November of 2016 (see the leaked video of Google's pathetic reaction to the election, for example). Amazon = WaPo = Fake News = hates Trump with a passion. Google, besides having the cry-ins, has YouTube. Rumble, YouTube's competitor, is a Parler affiliate. And who can really know all the business co-dependencies and intertwined revenue streams that Twitter, Apple and Google have (as Twitter has been on the Apple iPhone & Google Droid platforms for years and years)? Getting to a good case of guilt, you need to show motive, means and opportunity. Their motive was not only obviously political (which had been enough for Twitter to act badly before), it was monetary also (hugely monetary!). The means were the spiking of the Parler app on the respective App Stores and the removing the Hosting Service. The Opportunity was brought about by the Reichstag Fire and the cover/rational it would provide. Parler is now dark and the feeding frenzy of new membership is over. Strange how that worked out. To think the left is just caring about the loss of life when they spiked Parler, you should consider how much they cared about life as they stood back and watched (and seemingly condoned) the violence, mayhem and occasional murders since Ferguson, 2014 to the Fall of 2020. well, Ted Nugent is posting about executing Mike Pence (I admit to only recently being a fan)..so I guess the right wing message is still getting out. Jokes including Canada, France and Great Britain have offered to send troops to help protect the Capitol are trending. Trump was in on it all the way. He should be in jail right now. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jan 12, 2021 18:07:45 GMT -8
Maybe you should ask ptsdthor if he condems the Capitol building attack. I dont remember him doing so. In the "Whats Happening...." thread: "The protesters today are culpable of idiocy, anarchy, lawlessness, etc. and deserve the legal penalties as appropriate just as the left leaning protesters should have been in 2016, this summer, etc." And where is your condemnation of the "Summer of Love" and the stated fear of and the desire for censorship of the leaders in the various groups/movements that caused the murder and mayhem? Trump had conceded by the 7th and threat of rioting was primarily over. Trump asked for calm, etc. Twitter went into "Thought Police" mode and tortured the two Trump's tweets on the 8th into something they were not. I suspect Twitter booted Trump not expecting the reaction relative to Parler. We have seen Twitter and Facebook go Orwellian to protect/project political power in the past, so spare me if I don't believe the leftist narrative on the motivations of the trio for doing the Parler attack. When Twitter booted Trump on the 8th, all the SF Tech immediately saw Parler move to the #1 App on Apple and Google App Stores and saw that Parler was adding hundreds of thousands new members within a few short hours. Amazon was hosting the Parler servers and they were being crushed under the load. Do you think they were all just going to sit there twiddling their thumbs and watch Billions and Billions of future revenue go the way of their competitor & Trump/GOP friendly social media platforms without any pushback? Remember, these are the organizations that likely had "cry-ins" for their woke employees in November of 2016 (see the leaked video of Google's pathetic reaction to the election, for example). Amazon = WaPo = Fake News = hates Trump with a passion. Google, besides having the cry-ins, has YouTube. Rumble, YouTube's competitor, is a Parler affiliate. And who can really know all the business co-dependencies and intertwined revenue streams that Twitter, Apple and Google have (as Twitter has been on the Apple iPhone & Google Droid platforms for years and years)? Getting to a good case of guilt, you need to show motive, means and opportunity. Their motive was not only obviously political (which had been enough for Twitter to act badly before), it was monetary also (hugely monetary!). The means were the spiking of the Parler app on the respective App Stores and the removing the Hosting Service. The Opportunity was brought about by the Reichstag Fire and the cover/rational it would provide. Parler is now dark and the feeding frenzy of new membership is over. Strange how that worked out. To think the left is just caring about the loss of life when they spiked Parler, you should consider how much they cared about life as they stood back and watched (and seemingly condoned) the violence, mayhem and occasional murders since Ferguson, 2014 to the Fall of 2020.
I even posted about how he was a wannabe dictator months ago.Look at the timeline (I'm quoting this from The Aztec Panther from another thread): "The timeline is pretty clear. It is easy to connect the dots and see that this was pre-planned, not a spontaneous outburst of anger among protestors... Trump refuses to promise to accept election results, refuses to promise a peaceful transfer of power. (August/September) Trump guts DHS Threat Assessment Group (the group created after 9/11 to find online threats and report on potential attacks) (September) Trump loses the election, won't accept it. Trump tries to overturn the election in court. Fails. Miserably. (No real evidence, just a bunch of ridiculous hearsay and tin foil hat theories). Trump fires or asks for resigniations from people at the Pentagon (as well as FBI, NSA, CIA, etc). Trump moves loyalists from his administration in to those positions of authority in the military and Federal law enforcement. Trump's Cybersecurity Chief says there was NO hacking, and NO electronic fraud in the election. Trump fires him 2 days later. Trump's Attorney General says there was NO credible evidence of fraud in the election. Barr resigns a week later. Trump and his people set up a big rally on the very day that ALL of Congress and ALL of the Senate are together with the VP, certifying Biden's win. Tells his followers it will, "Be wild." On social media in the weeks leading up to it (particularly in the last two weeks ahead of time, the rallying cry for the 1/06/21 event is to FIGHT, and it will be CIVIL WAR, and they will TAKE BACK DC and KICK ASS, etc. Some people encourage the people to bring their guns to the rally. Former military members are coordinating these efforts, along with law enforcement officers and paramilitary specialists. Disturbing plans for what will happen to the Vice President ant members of Congress are discussed. (Parler was supposed to be a site for rational discussions of ideas, but it is used for recruiting people for the rally, and the coordination of plans - with no moderation from Parler itself.) Trump tries to coerce state election officials to, "Find," just enough votes for him to miraculously turn out to be the winner. He fails at that. Miserably. A recording comes out, and many experts say that his attempt to have those officials, "Find," the votes for him is in itself a criminal act subject to prosecution (if he weren't a sitting President). 1/03/21 All 10 living former Defense Secretaries (from both parties) declare election is over in forceful public letter - warning that taking any action to overturn the election would be disastrous and result in criminal penalties. The fact that they felt the need to send that letter speaks volumes. 1/03/21 At the, "Protest rally," Giuliani works up the people, telling them it is, "Trial by combat!" Trump works them up even more, telling them to, "Fight like hell," and to, "Be strong!" Trump then tells them to march on the Capitol. Woefully inadequate security is in place for a major event, and the, "Protestors," gain entry into the Capitol far more easily than they should have been able to. Some come bearing weapons, others with zip-ties, etc, many in tactical gear. Some of them have the layout of the Capitol and know where to go to find the hiding Congress. Again, ALL of Congress and the Senate is there, as is the VP. The #1, #2, and #3 people in line of succession in one place, along with every Federal legislator. The National Guard is kept away from the Capitol before the event, and Trump waits to send those Guard troops in, even after desperate pleas for help at the Capitol. Reports have Trump showing excitement, pleased with the events unfolding on TV. Vice President Pence has to call in the National Guard a full two hours later to restore order since Trump wouldn't do it. The pre-planned assualt has no chance of succeeding if the National Guard is there. They have minimal chance of succeeding with an appropriate Capitol Security force there. Instead, the Capitol security is set at a level that it would be set for ANY Wednesday, despite both Houses of Congress AND the VP all in one chamber, and despite a, "Protest rally" down the street that has had thousands of online posts calling for violence. And NONE of it works without the President telling the crowd to march down to the Caipitol and to, "Fight," and, "Be strong," after Giuliani told them it was, "Trial by combat." Trump knew the National Guard was not there, and would not be there. It is extremely likely given the loyalists moved into place ahead of time that one or more of them was responsible for the oddly, suspiciously, disturbingly light security presence at the Capitol (a security level far lower than it should have been, even without the, "Protest rally," down the street). This was a coup attempt. A poorly executed one, led by one of the most incompetent people in modern politics, but it was a coup attempt all the same. " |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 12, 2021 22:13:30 GMT -8
In the "Whats Happening...." thread: "The protesters today are culpable of idiocy, anarchy, lawlessness, etc. and deserve the legal penalties as appropriate just as the left leaning protesters should have been in 2016, this summer, etc." And where is your condemnation of the "Summer of Love" and the stated fear of and the desire for censorship of the leaders in the various groups/movements that caused the murder and mayhem? Trump had conceded by the 7th and threat of rioting was primarily over. Trump asked for calm, etc. Twitter went into "Thought Police" mode and tortured the two Trump's tweets on the 8th into something they were not. I suspect Twitter booted Trump not expecting the reaction relative to Parler. We have seen Twitter and Facebook go Orwellian to protect/project political power in the past, so spare me if I don't believe the leftist narrative on the motivations of the trio for doing the Parler attack. When Twitter booted Trump on the 8th, all the SF Tech immediately saw Parler move to the #1 App on Apple and Google App Stores and saw that Parler was adding hundreds of thousands new members within a few short hours. Amazon was hosting the Parler servers and they were being crushed under the load. Do you think they were all just going to sit there twiddling their thumbs and watch Billions and Billions of future revenue go the way of their competitor & Trump/GOP friendly social media platforms without any pushback? Remember, these are the organizations that likely had "cry-ins" for their woke employees in November of 2016 (see the leaked video of Google's pathetic reaction to the election, for example). Amazon = WaPo = Fake News = hates Trump with a passion. Google, besides having the cry-ins, has YouTube. Rumble, YouTube's competitor, is a Parler affiliate. And who can really know all the business co-dependencies and intertwined revenue streams that Twitter, Apple and Google have (as Twitter has been on the Apple iPhone & Google Droid platforms for years and years)? Getting to a good case of guilt, you need to show motive, means and opportunity. Their motive was not only obviously political (which had been enough for Twitter to act badly before), it was monetary also (hugely monetary!). The means were the spiking of the Parler app on the respective App Stores and the removing the Hosting Service. The Opportunity was brought about by the Reichstag Fire and the cover/rational it would provide. Parler is now dark and the feeding frenzy of new membership is over. Strange how that worked out. To think the left is just caring about the loss of life when they spiked Parler, you should consider how much they cared about life as they stood back and watched (and seemingly condoned) the violence, mayhem and occasional murders since Ferguson, 2014 to the Fall of 2020. well, Ted Nugent is posting about executing Mike Pence (I admit to only recently being a fan)..so I guess the right wing message is still getting out. Jokes including Canada, France and Great Britain have offered to send troops to help protect the Capitol are trending. Trump was in on it all the way. He should be in jail right now. The Reichstag fire was out on the evening of the 6th. What happened after that is what I am discussing above. This commenter below has it right relative to the SF Tech monopoly and the opportunity it presented. From reporting, a variety of on-line services were used to plan and coordinate the event including Facebook and YouTube. But only Parler gets to be the target. greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolistic |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2021 22:17:34 GMT -8
well, Ted Nugent is posting about executing Mike Pence (I admit to only recently being a fan)..so I guess the right wing message is still getting out. Jokes including Canada, France and Great Britain have offered to send troops to help protect the Capitol are trending. Trump was in on it all the way. He should be in jail right now. The Reichstag fire was out on the evening of the 6th. What happened after that is what I am discussing above. This commenter below has it right relative to the SF Tech monopoly and the opportunity it presented. From reporting, a variety of on-line services were used to plan and coordinate the event including Facebook and YouTube. But only Parler gets to be the target. greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolisticParler was the only one NOT removing calls for violence. Parler was the only one that DIDN'T remove recruitment for insurrection. They screwed themselves over by being complicit with the insurrection by allowing the use of their site for coordinating this attack. Funny how people don't like to do business with companies like that. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 12, 2021 22:45:29 GMT -8
The Reichstag fire was out on the evening of the 6th. What happened after that is what I am discussing above. This commenter below has it right relative to the SF Tech monopoly and the opportunity it presented. From reporting, a variety of on-line services were used to plan and coordinate the event including Facebook and YouTube. But only Parler gets to be the target. greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolisticParler was the only one NOT removing calls for violence. Parler was the only one that DIDN'T remove recruitment for insurrection. They screwed themselves over by being complicit with the insurrection by allowing the use of their site for coordinating this attack. Funny how people don't like to do business with companies like that. Apparently its not as you portray it. "It is true that one can find postings on Parler that explicitly advocate violence or are otherwise grotesque. But that is even more true of Facebook, Google-owned YouTube, and Twitter. And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform." "The united Silicon Valley attack began on January 8, when Apple emailed Parler and gave them 24 hours to prove they had changed their moderation practices or else face removal from their App Store." The Warning: "To ensure there is no interruption of the availability of your app on the App Store, please submit an update and the requested moderation improvement plan within 24 hours of the date of this message. If we do not receive an update compliant with the App Store Review Guidelines and the requested moderation improvement plan in writing within 24 hours, your app will be removed from the App Store." "The 24-hour letter was an obvious pretext and purely performative. Removal was a fait accompli no matter what Parler did. To begin with, the letter was immediately leaked to Buzzfeed, which published it in full. A Parler executive detailed the company’s unsuccessful attempts to communicate with Apple. “They basically ghosted us,” he told me. The next day, Apple notified Parler of its removal from App Store." AOC makes the call and within hours...viola...an up and coming competitor to the tech monopolies is roadkill. The Reichstag Fire will take out many. many more "enemies" of the state. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2021 23:37:02 GMT -8
Parler was the only one NOT removing calls for violence. Parler was the only one that DIDN'T remove recruitment for insurrection. They screwed themselves over by being complicit with the insurrection by allowing the use of their site for coordinating this attack. Funny how people don't like to do business with companies like that. Apparently its not as you portray it. "It is true that one can find postings on Parler that explicitly advocate violence or are otherwise grotesque. But that is even more true of Facebook, Google-owned YouTube, and Twitter. And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform." "The united Silicon Valley attack began on January 8, when Apple emailed Parler and gave them 24 hours to prove they had changed their moderation practices or else face removal from their App Store." The Warning: "To ensure there is no interruption of the availability of your app on the App Store, please submit an update and the requested moderation improvement plan within 24 hours of the date of this message. If we do not receive an update compliant with the App Store Review Guidelines and the requested moderation improvement plan in writing within 24 hours, your app will be removed from the App Store." "The 24-hour letter was an obvious pretext and purely performative. Removal was a fait accompli no matter what Parler did. To begin with, the letter was immediately leaked to Buzzfeed, which published it in full. A Parler executive detailed the company’s unsuccessful attempts to communicate with Apple. “They basically ghosted us,” he told me. The next day, Apple notified Parler of its removal from App Store." AOC makes the call and within hours...viola...an up and coming competitor to the tech monopolies is roadkill. The Reichstag Fire will take out many. many more "enemies" of the state. Posts on Parler calling for the violence and coordinating the attacks were not taken down at all. Posts on Facebook or Twitter for the same kind of thing are removed within minutes. So either Parler was INCOMPETENT, and dangerously so, or they were complicit. Take your pick - either way it made for a dangerous site. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 13, 2021 10:01:47 GMT -8
Apparently its not as you portray it. "It is true that one can find postings on Parler that explicitly advocate violence or are otherwise grotesque. But that is even more true of Facebook, Google-owned YouTube, and Twitter. And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform." "The united Silicon Valley attack began on January 8, when Apple emailed Parler and gave them 24 hours to prove they had changed their moderation practices or else face removal from their App Store." The Warning: "To ensure there is no interruption of the availability of your app on the App Store, please submit an update and the requested moderation improvement plan within 24 hours of the date of this message. If we do not receive an update compliant with the App Store Review Guidelines and the requested moderation improvement plan in writing within 24 hours, your app will be removed from the App Store." "The 24-hour letter was an obvious pretext and purely performative. Removal was a fait accompli no matter what Parler did. To begin with, the letter was immediately leaked to Buzzfeed, which published it in full. A Parler executive detailed the company’s unsuccessful attempts to communicate with Apple. “They basically ghosted us,” he told me. The next day, Apple notified Parler of its removal from App Store." AOC makes the call and within hours...viola...an up and coming competitor to the tech monopolies is roadkill. The Reichstag Fire will take out many. many more "enemies" of the state. Posts on Parler calling for the violence and coordinating the attacks were not taken down at all. Posts on Facebook or Twitter for the same kind of thing are removed within minutes. So either Parler was INCOMPETENT, and dangerously so, or they were complicit. Take your pick - either way it made for a dangerous site. And nearly eliminating an up and coming competitor during a time when it was getting the most downloads in the country just happens to be an happy coincidence. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 13, 2021 10:22:48 GMT -8
Posts on Parler calling for the violence and coordinating the attacks were not taken down at all. Posts on Facebook or Twitter for the same kind of thing are removed within minutes. So either Parler was INCOMPETENT, and dangerously so, or they were complicit. Take your pick - either way it made for a dangerous site. And nearly eliminating an up and coming competitor during a time when it was getting the most downloads in the country just happens to be an happy coincidence. A competitor? LOL. What the hell? Parler had 4 million active users. Twitter has 100 times that. That's hilarious. Not a coincidence, they were complicit in inciting an insurrection. Just cause. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 13, 2021 10:32:37 GMT -8
Posts on Parler calling for the violence and coordinating the attacks were not taken down at all. Posts on Facebook or Twitter for the same kind of thing are removed within minutes. So either Parler was INCOMPETENT, and dangerously so, or they were complicit. Take your pick - either way it made for a dangerous site. And nearly eliminating an up and coming competitor during a time when it was getting the most downloads in the country just happens to be an happy coincidence. You clearly don't get it - Either through incompetence or active involvement, Parler was complicit in the insurrection on 1/06 by NOT removing posts recruiting and planning the attack. Do you really believe that they shouldn't have been held accountable for that? Really?? |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 13, 2021 12:27:24 GMT -8
And nearly eliminating an up and coming competitor during a time when it was getting the most downloads in the country just happens to be an happy coincidence. You clearly don't get it - Either through incompetence or active involvement, Parler was complicit in the insurrection on 1/06 by NOT removing posts recruiting and planning the attack. Do you really believe that they shouldn't have been held accountable for that? Really?? On that day the topic #HangMikePence was trending on Twitter. Not only were the posts not being removed but Twitter advertised the topic on its front page as something of interest. Please explain to me why Twitter is without fault but Parler had to receive the death penalty for the exact same lack of moderation. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 13, 2021 12:28:56 GMT -8
And nearly eliminating an up and coming competitor during a time when it was getting the most downloads in the country just happens to be an happy coincidence. You clearly don't get it - Either through incompetence or active involvement, Parler was complicit in the insurrection on 1/06 by NOT removing posts recruiting and planning the attack. Do you really believe that they shouldn't have been held accountable for that? Really?? So a variety of social media services that work with one, two or all three of the tech monopolists could be included in the activity you describe, yet only one was given the death penalty with no real way to comply even if they wanted to. You connect your dots... |
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