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Post by longtimesdsufan on Mar 12, 2017 16:59:56 GMT -8
Trolls are taking over this site. I see fewer fans posting and more trolls posting. I know real fans that find this site a waste of time. There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants.
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Post by alohaboarder on Mar 12, 2017 17:33:42 GMT -8
Trolls are taking over this site. I see fewer fans posting and more trolls posting. I know real fans that find this site a waste of time. There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants. Let me explain something to the snowflake community. Just because more people are saying we suck does not mean everyone is a troll. The reason no one is talking about SDSU on any of the tournament shows today is because we sucked. You play NCAA basketball to win championships. We didn't do any of that this season. I'd say snowflakes are ruining this board and the program. You are content with showing up to games to watch a mediocre product. You prefer ticket prices remain low so you can continue to attend. Trolls as you call them prefer to be in the running to win championships each year. We want to be like the Arizona, Gonzaga, or Butlers of the world.
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Post by Spud on Mar 12, 2017 17:34:38 GMT -8
Trolls are taking over this site. I see fewer fans posting and more trolls posting. I know real fans that find this site a waste of time. There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants. You mean like your post...
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Post by junior on Mar 12, 2017 17:45:52 GMT -8
Someone needs to raise the bar for incoming and potential trolls.
Calling things as one sees them? That's not trolling.
This year's squad just didn't cut the proverbial mustard, and in too many games, they sucked.
Calling that out isn't trolling. Pretending that it's not happening is far more concerning.
Two years in a row, this program has fallen short of expectations. That's a big enough data set to create a reasonable level of concern.
Fire Rocky!
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Post by DeeMoney on Mar 12, 2017 18:09:57 GMT -8
Trolls are taking over this site. I see fewer fans posting and more trolls posting. I know real fans that find this site a waste of time. There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants. Let me explain something to the snowflake community. Just because more people are saying we suck does not mean everyone is a troll. The reason no one is talking about SDSU on any of the tournament shows today is because we sucked. You play NCAA basketball to win championships. We didn't do any of that this season. I'd say snowflakes are ruining this board and the program. You are content with showing up to games to watch a mediocre product. You prefer ticket prices remain low so you can continue to attend. Trolls as you call them prefer to be in the running to win championships each year. We want to be like the Arizona, Gonzaga, or Butlers of the world. You are right, not everyone who says we suck is a troll; but some of them are. There is a recent post someone wrote that calls for coach Fisher to step down; the poster was accused of being a troll but he was not. However, there are plenty of posters who only post and focus on the negatives, they are the equal and opposite of your "snowflakes" and are as such equally as bad. They ignore anything that is positive and tend to do more than just complain (that being written there are many fans who just come here to complain, they aren't trolls either just frustrated and whining). These alleged trolls enjoy being negative and refuse to acknowledge any positives, probably because that would diminish the effect of their negativity and its impact on others. They care no more or less about winning championships than we do, and have the same impact on the teams winning as the rest of us (which is none). Now, just because you think that ruins this site doesnt make you a snowflake. As I've written before, its the same as the block/ignore option. If I am driving down the street with my window down enjoying the socal weather, and a car full of annoying teens pulls next to me bumping awful music (lets say ICP) smoking cigarettes and just being annoying teens; I'm gonna roll my window up, and probably drive at a different speed. Do I get out of the car and pick a fight? No, they have every right to do what they are doing, but does it ruin things for me? Absolutely. Am I a snowflake for being annoyed by them? No, nor am I not one for being a reasonable adult and not drilling them in their teeth.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 12, 2017 18:54:37 GMT -8
Low key I thought everyone but the mods and the trolls agreed on this a year ago
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Post by alohaboarder on Mar 12, 2017 18:56:32 GMT -8
Low key I thought everyone but the mods and the trolls agreed on this a year ago In English please.
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Post by podpeople on Mar 12, 2017 19:11:48 GMT -8
Trolls and forums have an intrinsic relationship. I just laugh them off.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 12, 2017 19:13:23 GMT -8
Low key I thought everyone but the mods and the trolls agreed on this a year ago In English please. Viva la resistance
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Post by momoney on Mar 12, 2017 19:24:10 GMT -8
Trolls are taking over this site. I see fewer fans posting and more trolls posting. I know real fans that find this site a waste of time. There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants. I smell troll here!!
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Post by richpjr on Mar 12, 2017 20:17:04 GMT -8
If I am driving down the street with my window down enjoying the socal weather, and a car full of annoying teens pulls next to me bumping awful music (lets say ICP) smoking cigarettes and just being annoying teens; I'm gonna roll my window up, and probably drive at a different speed. Do I get out of the car and pick a fight? No, they have every right to do what they are doing, but does it ruin things for me? Absolutely. Am I a snowflake for being annoyed by them? No, nor am I not one for being a reasonable adult and not drilling them in their teeth. That isn't what is happening here, though. There are quite a few that go out of their way to pick that fight. Anything they perceive as negative is a reason to call posters idiots, question their knowledge of the game, post random pictures related to nothing, call them out for not being real fans and whine about the moderators not banning them. Props to those smart enough to ignore the junk they don't like - I wish more shared that sentiment.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 12, 2017 21:38:28 GMT -8
There is less and less sharing of information, but more and more posts that are opionion based rants. Ummmm... While there have been some people who post ultra negative comments just to get reactions out of people (true trolls), most people who post here do so with the honest intent of sharing their opinions and feelings about Aztec athletics. And that's what ALL message boards are about first and foremost - sharing opinions and, when things go bad, venting frustration. If someone has information that others don't, that's great, but that's only one of many reasons to post comments. Just because you disagree with someone's opinion and their opinion has a negative slant doesn't automatically make them a troll. Often times the people who post negative comments are some of the most passionate and dedicated fans around. Do you really want to prevent them from honestly discussing their feelings and opinions on favorite team? We all need to show a little tolerance for people whose views differ from our own. We're all on the same side and we should act accordingly. It's not like we've got people here saying, "The Aztecs suck - BYU Cougar basketball is where it's at!" Now THAT would be trolling...
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Post by legkick on Mar 12, 2017 21:39:02 GMT -8
Patent projection from a troll, rich. And yes, the trolls ruined this site a while ago, aided and abetted by the mods.
Content free emoting and saying the team sucks is not worthy fan behavior. Fans don't do that, whiny immature narcissistic douches do it . . . over and over and over again.
You trolls want a cookie for saying master of the obvious inanities like the team didn't play well this year? Not here.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 12, 2017 21:48:40 GMT -8
What I find really disappointing is the complete and total lack of tolerance for differing views and opinions of others.
So if someone honestly believes that things are going in the wrong direction and a program is spiraling down the bowl that automatically makes that person a troll?
Come on.
It's not unreasonable or irrational for someone to say, "The basketball program is regressing and the players are not living up to expectations, and here's why I think it's happened and why I think a change needs to be made," etc. Agree or disagree, it's not unreasonable for someone to say that this year's team sucked. It may not be 100% correct (they did have a winning record), but as hyperbole goes it isn't out in left field.
Now, me? I personally have faith in both Coach Fisher and Coach Dutcher. I believe they WILL get the program turned back around. They have earned the benefit of the doubt. But that doesn't put them above criticism if someone else believes they deserve criticism.
Again, we are ALL Aztec fans, and we are ALL on the same side. Most people who are being labeled as, "Trolls," are nothing but passionate, dedicated fans who are frustrated by the way this season turned out (following a less disappointing season last year). Now maybe they handle disappointment and frustration differently from you, but that doesn't make them bad people or bad fans.
If we turned away every fan who had overly negative reactions when things went badly we'd never hit 12,414 again. We wouldn't even be close.
A little tolerance and understanding goes a long way.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Mar 12, 2017 21:54:01 GMT -8
What I find really disappointing is the complete and total lack of tolerance for differing views and opinions of others. So if someone honestly believes that things are going in the wrong direction and a program is spiraling down the bowl that automatically makes that person a troll? Come on. It's not unreasonable or irrational for someone to say, "The basketball program is regressing and the players are not living up to expectations, and here's why I think it's happened and why I think a change needs to be made," etc. Agree or disagree, it's not unreasonable for someone to say that this year's team sucked. It may not be 100% correct (they did have a winning record), but as hyperbole goes it isn't out in left field. Now, me? I personally have faith in both Coach Fisher and Coach Dutcher. I believe they WILL get the program turned back around. They have earned the benefit of the doubt. But that doesn't put them above criticism if someone else believes they deserve criticism. Again, we are ALL Aztec fans, and we are ALL on the same side. Most people who are being labeled as, "Trolls," are nothing but passionate, dedicated fans who are frustrated by the way this season turned out (following a less disappointing season last year). Now maybe they handle disappointment and frustration differently from you, but that doesn't make them bad people or bad fans. If we turned away every fan who had overly negative reactions when things went badly we'd never hit 12,414 again. We wouldn't even be close. A little tolerance and understanding goes a long way. If it's a criticism among a somewhat varied total body of work, no... If it's the latest in a Johnny-one-note drumbeat that never varies, and/or is the only topic/viewpoint they ever talk about, then yes.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 12, 2017 21:55:22 GMT -8
Remember at the beginning of this academic year the question was "Is AztecMesa Dying?"??
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Post by azteccc on Mar 12, 2017 22:00:14 GMT -8
. Most people who are being labeled as, "Trolls," are nothing but passionate, dedicated fans who are frustrated by the way this season turned out (following a less disappointing season last year). .
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Post by legkick on Mar 12, 2017 22:06:33 GMT -8
No one but you cares if you are frustrated by the season. It adds NOTHING to any discussion.
If you have something constructive to say, by all means say it. But if all you are going to do is emote, whine, and spout banalities, you're not a fan of anything except your own mental state.
Edit: and before anyone claims frustration matters in a meta sense, it is nowhere near the critical mass needed to force SDSU's hand. Typical of trolls to assume their relentless negativity is widely shared, when in almost all cases it is not.
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Post by alohaboarder on Mar 12, 2017 22:07:34 GMT -8
. Most people who are being labeled as, "Trolls," are nothing but passionate, dedicated fans who are frustrated by the way this season turned out (following a less disappointing season last year). .
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 12, 2017 22:15:19 GMT -8
Kind of sad that so many people are so intolerant of views that differ from their own.
Especially considering the people towards whom they are intolerant have the exact same hopes and desires that they do - successful athletic programs for San Diego State.
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