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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 14, 2017 8:41:04 GMT -8
We have over 4,700 members, probably half of that still active. On any given day we'll get 250 or more people here (a lot more during football season).
And out of all of those members 39 have expressed concern about, "Trolls." Most of the comments, too, are factually inaccurate (the idea that we've done nothing and continue to do nothing about said trolls is just laughable).
Now, does that mean that we're just going to continue with the status quo and believe everything is peachy? Hell, no!
As I've said multiple times, if you are unhappy/dissatisfied with some of the threads/posts that we've seen and feel that some board members are not posting in good faith then you can do something about it - send a PM to a mod with a link to the posts in question. We WILL follow up, and we WILL do something about it.
If you're not willing to do that (and it takes very little effort to do so) then you have no right to complain about those posts/threads. This is a team effort, and if you're not going to be part of the team then you have no grounds to complain as you will have then become a willing accessory/accomplice to the people posting those comments & threads.
We appreciate the feedback that we get, and we do take each and every PM seriously and address the issues as quickly as we can. But we can't address what we don't know about.
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Post by northcountymike on Mar 14, 2017 8:45:22 GMT -8
Agreed on the last point. AztecMesa is pretty well known as a cesspool of negativity. I think of it as the stock market: bulls vs. bears. There are bulls on here (legkick, azteccc, etc.) and there are bears (NCM, aloha, douchey). No one is bullish or bearish all the time, but it does have to do with your general disposition and how one responds to the climate. Many people can be bullish and then slip right over into bearish as soon as you have two data points to make a downward line. It's human nature to do the simplest linear extrapolation and figure that since we got 28 wins last year, 19 this year, we'll have 10 wins next year, and in two years we're going to be the worst team in NCAA division 1. Others may look at our 200-day moving average and say, hey, we've had a few recent blips, but the overall trend is intact. Nothing goes straight up. Some people believe in the short term trends and some believe in the long-term trends. What's really important in regards to this board is simply to answer the question of "What kind of board do I want?" For me personally, I like coming here when times are good, we're winning, and I can share my enthusiasm for Aztec sports. Mostly, things are framed positively. When things aren't going so well, it gets ugly. Ugly to where I stay away after disappointing losses and performances. And ugly to the point where the parents of players are coming on here and seeing their sons slammed by supporters of the school they're representing. I DON'T come here to try to argue with bears. It's like trying get someone to change political parties - it won't work - people just see things differently. The result is that after a disappointing loss we see multiple bedwetting threads all containing pretty much the same thing: I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN EMBARRASSMENT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE (yada yada) Wha' ? Sure, it doesn't break the rules, but c'mon, it makes this place look completely unmoderated. Threads like these should be locked and/or deleted. Most people don't need to be banned. But a start would be to put all the gameday commentary and bedwetting into a subforum for gameday talk. Agree on NCM, but I challenge you to show me an example of a non-troll post by the other two. So, is this where I say "thank you?" Haha.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 14, 2017 9:10:40 GMT -8
Sadly, there is no good "sweep under the rug" gifs available. Crazy, right?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 14, 2017 9:45:23 GMT -8
Sadly, there is no good "sweep under the rug" gifs available. Crazy, right? Yeah, crazy - just like people who want to complain rather than help make things better. Crazy...
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Post by davdesid on Mar 14, 2017 14:16:48 GMT -8
Sadly, there is no good "sweep under the rug" gifs available. Crazy, right? Yeah, crazy - just like people who want to complain rather than help make things better. Crazy... Anyone who offends me should be banned...
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Post by junior on Mar 14, 2017 18:19:59 GMT -8
… just gotta say one more thing - sometimes, overreaction to trolls can get to be as bad as the trolls themselves. Not saying that those who would call out trollish behavior are somehow wrong - they're not at all wrong. You gotta call it like you see it.
But the response is exactly what a troll is looking for.
Ignoring some of the worst trolls isn't easy, either - because even if you have them on ignore, someone else can still quote them - and then you still have to see the trollish blather.
Too bad the phorum isn't smart enough to filter out all instances of any troll who's on ignore in any given poster's prefs. That way we might truly be able to ignore some of them.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Mar 15, 2017 4:58:08 GMT -8
We have over 4,700 members, probably half of that still active. On any given day we'll get 250 or more people here (a lot more during football season). And out of all of those members 39 have expressed concern about, "Trolls." Most of the comments, too, are factually inaccurate (the idea that we've done nothing and continue to do nothing about said trolls is just laughable). Now, does that mean that we're just going to continue with the status quo and believe everything is peachy? Hell, no! As I've said multiple times, if you are unhappy/dissatisfied with some of the threads/posts that we've seen and feel that some board members are not posting in good faith then you can do something about it - send a PM to a mod with a link to the posts in question. We WILL follow up, and we WILL do something about it. If you're not willing to do that (and it takes very little effort to do so) then you have no right to complain about those posts/threads. This is a team effort, and if you're not going to be part of the team then you have no grounds to complain as you will have then become a willing accessory/accomplice to the people posting those comments & threads. We appreciate the feedback that we get, and we do take each and every PM seriously and address the issues as quickly as we can. But we can't address what we don't know about. 68% voted that the site is more about Trolls than Aztecs in the survey. However you have decided that the 210 people that did not vote side with you opinion. Flawed logic.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 15, 2017 6:52:55 GMT -8
We have over 4,700 members, probably half of that still active. On any given day we'll get 250 or more people here (a lot more during football season). And out of all of those members 39 have expressed concern about, "Trolls." Most of the comments, too, are factually inaccurate (the idea that we've done nothing and continue to do nothing about said trolls is just laughable). Now, does that mean that we're just going to continue with the status quo and believe everything is peachy? Hell, no! As I've said multiple times, if you are unhappy/dissatisfied with some of the threads/posts that we've seen and feel that some board members are not posting in good faith then you can do something about it - send a PM to a mod with a link to the posts in question. We WILL follow up, and we WILL do something about it. If you're not willing to do that (and it takes very little effort to do so) then you have no right to complain about those posts/threads. This is a team effort, and if you're not going to be part of the team then you have no grounds to complain as you will have then become a willing accessory/accomplice to the people posting those comments & threads. We appreciate the feedback that we get, and we do take each and every PM seriously and address the issues as quickly as we can. But we can't address what we don't know about. 68% voted that the site is more about Trolls than Aztecs in the survey. However you have decided that the 210 people that did not vote side with you opinion. Flawed logic. No, I just noted that they didn't feel it was a topic worth commenting or voting on. And, for the record, since posting my comments asking for PM's with links to offending posts I have gotten responses AND I have issued multiple serious warnings, including a 50% warning for a first caught offense just this morning. (Given the timing of the offense it seemed like a doubly offending line of comments - kind of thumbing his nose at everyone which made the violation that much worse and was dealt with that much more harshly as a result.) Ye of little faith...
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Mar 15, 2017 10:52:04 GMT -8
Eric,
I need to be more clear. Note the threads since this was posted. I see you clamping down and I see true Aztec fan concerns/issues filling up the current threads. I for one, could not be happier.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 15, 2017 10:56:18 GMT -8
Eric, I need to be more clear. Note the threads since this was posted. I see you clamping down and I see true Aztec fan concerns/issues filling up the current threads. I for one, could not be happier. All it takes is a little teamwork... We don't want the board filled with troll threads & posts, either. We do want to make sure we're fair and apply the rules appropriately. (Not just, "Well, we don't like those posts so you're banned!") But we also don't want the board overrun with posts intended solely to rile people up.
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