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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 9:05:48 GMT -8
Because the Padres and Chargers sell papers. Look at any article in the Chargers section, a hundred, if not hundreds, of comments follow. nail, meet mr. hammer; mr. hammer, nail. Nail, Hammer.....You missed....Finger in pain.  |
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Post by monty on Aug 1, 2010 9:35:43 GMT -8
Because the Padres and Chargers sell papers. Look at any article in the Chargers section, a hundred, if not hundreds, of comments follow. And the Aztecs would sell papers too, if they promoted them as much as the Chargers and Padres. I am amazed at how many fans back the UT on this....This is our town. It is facing the facts of the matter, we can pretend this is an Aztec town, and that if the dept. ran more radio adds, or the paper had more stories there'd be more buts in the seats and donations in the till, but the guy above brings up a great point: how many less comments on an Aztec story are there than a padres or chargers story? Press coverage is a lagging indicator: Press coverage will show there is interest, it will not create it. |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 1, 2010 9:43:57 GMT -8
Because then they don't get to act like smug, know-it-alls, always reminding us of how bad it's been for so long. Cynicism is an easy stance, especially when you've been frustrated for a long time. But even without being rah, rah about the team's chances, feature stories on the players, their backgrounds, their expectations for the season, build interest and the fan base. Is that the UT's job, to build our fanbase? That paper is going away; but even if we assume that they know how to run their business, should they spend money and page space if no one reads the articles? I'm sure in arkansas and many other places, people are going to read the articles everyday, will they in San Diego? If the UT wants people to read their paper they need to give them a reason. Building a fan for the Aztecs will do that. So, yes, it should the the UT's job to build SDSU's fanbase. It will bring more eyes to their product. |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 1, 2010 9:46:54 GMT -8
It isn't there job to promote the Padres and the Chargers either, but they do. Why not the Aztecs? Because the Padres and Chargers sell papers. Look at any article in the Chargers section, a hundred, if not hundreds, of comments follow. [/quote It could be because Aztec fans like me quit reading the UT. If the UT bagged on the Padres or Chargers they way they do the Aztecs fans of those teams might quit the paper as well. |
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Post by monty on Aug 1, 2010 9:53:42 GMT -8
Is that the UT's job, to build our fanbase? That paper is going away; but even if we assume that they know how to run their business, should they spend money and page space if no one reads the articles? I'm sure in arkansas and many other places, people are going to read the articles everyday, will they in San Diego? If the UT wants people to read their paper they need to give them a reason. Building a fan for the Aztecs will do that. So, yes, it should the the UT's job to build SDSU's fanbase. It will bring more eyes to their product. They have limited funds and limited space, if people are more likely to read an ap or wire service story or charger or padres, why would they invest in reporting a product where only 20k people will go and see it live anyways? Let me rephrase it: are our woes on the field, low attendance, low donations, low interest because the UT doesn't run stories on a regular basis, or is it the opposite? We need to stop blaming our problems on outside forces, the problem is internal |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Aug 1, 2010 10:04:49 GMT -8
If the UT wants people to read their paper they need to give them a reason. Building a fan for the Aztecs will do that. So, yes, it should the the UT's job to build SDSU's fanbase. It will bring more eyes to their product. They have limited funds and limited space, if people are more likely to read an ap or wire service story or charger or padres, why would they invest in reporting a product where only 20k people will go and see it live anyways? Let me rephrase it: are our woes on the field, low attendance, low donations, low interest because the UT doesn't run stories on a regular basis, or is it the opposite? We need to stop blaming our problems on outside forces, the problem is internal Nice Post Monty. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 12:19:48 GMT -8
Is that the UT's job, to build our fanbase? That paper is going away; but even if we assume that they know how to run their business, should they spend money and page space if no one reads the articles? I'm sure in arkansas and many other places, people are going to read the articles everyday, will they in San Diego? If the UT wants people to read their paper they need to give them a reason. Building a fan for the Aztecs will do that. So, yes, it should the the UT's job to build SDSU's fanbase. It will bring more eyes to their product. Yes 70. And this IS an Aztec town. Tons of people in this town went to San Diego State. Agree that the Padres and Chargers are a bigger name and more popular at this time.....but as far as D1 sports, this is an Aztec town by far. USC has their fans here....UCLA has its fans here....USD has their fans here.......But the UT is missing the boat on the Aztecs. As you said 70, the UT readership would increase if they paid more attention to the Aztecs (and they would have to pay less attention to the Padres/Chargers to do that). |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 12:25:24 GMT -8
If the UT wants people to read their paper they need to give them a reason. Building a fan for the Aztecs will do that. So, yes, it should the the UT's job to build SDSU's fanbase. It will bring more eyes to their product. They have limited funds and limited space, if people are more likely to read an ap or wire service story or charger or padres, why would they invest in reporting a product where only 20k people will go and see it live anyways? Let me rephrase it: are our woes on the field, low attendance, low donations, low interest because the UT doesn't run stories on a regular basis, or is it the opposite? We need to stop blaming our problems on outside forces, the problem is internal Well then if that the case....the UT needs to shut down or a new option has to come forward. The problem with the UT is that they don't care about the Aztecs AND they don't have any competition in town. Agree that we have internal problems at San Diego State, but I feel the programs are a internal (most)....external combo. For instance, basketball has turned the corner. While I agree that the UT coverage of Aztec basketball is better than it was when we were losing, it still is not up to par....same with the local sports talk radio stations. |
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Post by monty on Aug 1, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -8
They have limited funds and limited space, if people are more likely to read an ap or wire service story or charger or padres, why would they invest in reporting a product where only 20k people will go and see it live anyways? Let me rephrase it: are our woes on the field, low attendance, low donations, low interest because the UT doesn't run stories on a regular basis, or is it the opposite? We need to stop blaming our problems on outside forces, the problem is internal Well then if that the case....the UT needs to shut down or a new option has to come forward. The problem with the UT is that they don't care about the Aztecs AND they don't have any competition in town. Agree that we have internal problems at San Diego State, but I feel the programs are a internal (most)....external combo. For instance, basketball has turned the corner. While I agree that the UT coverage of Aztec basketball is better than it was when we were losing, it still is not up to par....same with the local sports talk radio stations. So, why is the newspaper, the sports talk radio, half the cable providers, and others not supporting the team? They all want to lose money? |
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Post by oc74aztec on Aug 1, 2010 13:28:39 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. The article didn't bring it up. The video didn't bring it up. Why do you insist on bringing it up? At what point do you move forward with the rest of us? |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 13:32:53 GMT -8
Well then if that the case....the UT needs to shut down or a new option has to come forward. The problem with the UT is that they don't care about the Aztecs AND they don't have any competition in town. Agree that we have internal problems at San Diego State, but I feel the programs are a internal (most)....external combo. For instance, basketball has turned the corner. While I agree that the UT coverage of Aztec basketball is better than it was when we were losing, it still is not up to par....same with the local sports talk radio stations. So, why is the newspaper, the sports talk radio, half the cable providers, and others not supporting the team? They all want to lose money? No, they are short term thinkers or to lazy to put in the effort. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 13:33:47 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. The article didn't bring it up. The video didn't bring it up. Why do you insist on bringing it up? At what point do you move forward with the rest of us? When you guys move on (see comments directly after my post you bring up).  And your post here is evidence that you have not moved on or you wouldn't had felt obligated to bring it up again, after the thread had finally moved in the correct direction at the request of the MOD.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2010 13:43:04 GMT -8
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Post by monty on Aug 1, 2010 14:10:05 GMT -8
So, why is the newspaper, the sports talk radio, half the cable providers, and others not supporting the team? They all want to lose money? No, they are short term thinkers or to lazy to put in the effort. All media in this town is? So, they are all wrong, and you're right? Is it more likely that they are all lazy and short sighted and costing their business dearly or that there is no product to sell? If you ain't even got a steak, it gets hard to sell that sizzle. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2010 14:12:59 GMT -8
+4 so we're back to the big question... Should Long have gotten a fourth losing season? Are you kidding me? there is no way Long should have been given a 4th season. No leadership, no fire, no sign things were getting better. I like Steve a lot and I understand some of his points.. but Long was not getting it done, was not close to getting it done, was not on the right track to getting it done. We were going backwards.. no question about it. We were right to fire him. 100 percent. I wish the man well, but he was not the right person for our team. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 14:36:11 GMT -8
No, they are short term thinkers or to lazy to put in the effort. All media in this town is? So, they are all wrong, and you're right? Is it more likely that they are all lazy and short sighted and costing their business dearly or that there is no product to sell? If you ain't even got a steak, it gets hard to sell that sizzle. I didn't say all media......and I didn't say all are wrong and I was right. That is something (your comment) you commonly use taking shots at me. No, not all media.....Coach Kentera talks Aztecs.....Mike Costa talks Aztecs.....A couple of other talk Aztecs......Remember Mike Costa was told by his producer and the owner of the station he worked at a couple of years ago to STOP talking about the Aztecs. So some are willing to talk. Hey Monty....You have your opinion and I have mine. I think the UT and the local media are missing a fantastic (and big business) opportunity by ignoring the Aztecs. Is it ok for me to give my opinion? Do I have your approval? PS....Aztec Basketball is sizzling steaks and has been for 3 years. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 14:37:05 GMT -8
+4 so we're back to the big question... Should Long have gotten a fourth losing season? By request of the MOD....I refuse to answer this question at this time. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 14:37:42 GMT -8
+4 so we're back to the big question... Should Long have gotten a fourth losing season? Are you kidding me? there is no way Long should have been given a 4th season. No leadership, no fire, no sign things were getting better. I like Steve a lot and I understand some of his points.. but Long was not getting it done, was not close to getting it done, was not on the right track to getting it done. We were going backwards.. no question about it. We were right to fire him. 100 percent. I wish the man well, but he was not the right person for our team. Love ya Wayno. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2010 14:45:56 GMT -8
You too brotha!! Still need to buy you a beer or three. Maybe AFA or Utah?
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 1, 2010 14:47:39 GMT -8
You too brotha!! Still need to buy you a beer or three. Maybe AFA or Utah? Sounds great Wayno. It is going to be a big year for Aztec football. |
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