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Post by some_aztec on Jul 29, 2010 14:17:57 GMT -8
Tis is really getting old Then why don't the posters quit commenting on Chuck Long or responding to my Chuck Long posts? Why don't you respond to those of us who are actually talking about Ryan Lindley and his career at SDSU instead of responding to the Chuck Long items only? |
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Jul 29, 2010 14:26:37 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. Lindley is a great Quaterback. Good recruit from Long. Vincent Brown was another great recruit from Long. There are a few others. Just because you recruit a few good players doesn't mean you are a good coach. Especially when you compare it to his overall record. Which was pathetic. Exactly! At SDSU you need a coach who can get more out of a player than the player even knew he had. Long couldn't "coach-up" his recruits. Let's hope Hoke can! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 14:36:10 GMT -8
Huh? He's already 6th all time in passing yards. With 5,707 yards, he'll fly by McGuire (who is in 4th with 7,484) this year. He's on pace to be the all-time Aztec passing leader for yards (who happens to be Todd Santos 11,425) attempts, completions, and TDs (he'll also have at least 3 more games to do it- Santos played 11 game season but also had a bowl appearance). Not sure where you got the 16K from, unless you're thinking of all time NCAA. Then that would be Timmy Chang of Hawai'i with 17, 072 And to match Dan McGuire Lindley would need about 16,000 yards in four years. Not likely. |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jul 29, 2010 14:58:53 GMT -8
I guess the writer doesn't know BYU is also in our conference?
Hoke looked pretty pumped up at the end of that video. Has some fire - something (cough cough) Chuck Long never had. Clearly Lond did do some things well, but let's not beat a dead horse. We are much better off today and should be happy with that.
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Post by aztecx on Jul 29, 2010 15:44:44 GMT -8
BINGO!!!! Steve, please read this post. I'm not sure what you are getting at X. I agree with TecPrides post 100%. Steve read the last two lines: "Just because you recruit a few good players doesn't mean you are a good coach. Especially when you compare it to his overall record. Which was pathetic. " Someone mentioned an article about Lindley and you immediately started yamering on about Chuck Long. Yes Long did some good things for the program. But as a leader, he didn't meet the expectations of his boss. He was relieved. Happens all the time. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 29, 2010 16:32:10 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. Yeah, but just to play the Devil's advocate, SDSU was THE school Lindley always wanted to play for, so I'm not sure how much credit you can give Long. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 29, 2010 16:40:58 GMT -8
Now with a year under his belt, Lindley should find more success in San Diego. His top receivers — DeMarco Simpson and Vincent Brown — are back and should give him plenty of options to throw out.
In an odd way, I have to wonder if Brown going down last season wasn't one of those moments in history when things change. With Vincent gone DeMarco rose to the occasion and became the receiver everyone (well maybe except him) knew he could be.
With the confidence DeMarco finally found last season, it has to bode well for our passing attack this year. We are finally once again blessed with a plethora of talented receivers and hopefully Hillman or another RB will step up and offer a ground game that will push the team into a damn fine season.
It just seems to me that it sometimes takes adversity to cause someone with character, but maybe not as much self-assurance as he should have, to step up and learn something about himself and his talent. I think it was pretty clear than Vince is going to play on Sundays, but it was up to DeMarco to prove he can do the same and he stepped up big time. It's going to be a fun season.
=Bob
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:47:41 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. Who cares who "recruited" him. And to match Dan McGuire Lindley would need about 16,000 yards in four years. Not likely. Zura, personally I don't care who recruited Ryan Lindley.....But many on this board have said that NONE of Chuck Longs recruits were any good. I disagreed with them on that and they continually bring it up (especially about the OLine). Go Hoke....Go Aztecs!!! |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:49:55 GMT -8
Then why don't the posters quit commenting on Chuck Long or responding to my Chuck Long posts? Why don't you respond to those of us who are actually talking about Ryan Lindley and his career at SDSU instead of responding to the Chuck Long items only? What am I missing here?.....I do respond to Ryan Lindley comments. I respond on most everything on the board. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:50:47 GMT -8
Lindley is a great Quaterback. Good recruit from Long. Vincent Brown was another great recruit from Long. There are a few others. Just because you recruit a few good players doesn't mean you are a good coach. Especially when you compare it to his overall record. Which was pathetic. Exactly! At SDSU you need a coach who can get more out of a player than the player even knew he had. Long couldn't "coach-up" his recruits. Let's hope Hoke can! I Hoke so. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:51:41 GMT -8
I guess the writer doesn't know BYU is also in our conference? Hoke looked pretty pumped up at the end of that video. Has some fire - something (cough cough) Chuck Long never had. Clearly Lond did do some things well, but let's not beat a dead horse. We are much better off today and should be happy with that. Chuck Long did not have much fire....that is for sure. And I called him on it often. I am also very happy with Brady Hoke and staff. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:57:33 GMT -8
I'm not sure what you are getting at X. I agree with TecPrides post 100%. Steve read the last two lines: "Just because you recruit a few good players doesn't mean you are a good coach. Especially when you compare it to his overall record. Which was pathetic. " Someone mentioned an article about Lindley and you immediately started yamering on about Chuck Long. Yes Long did some good things for the program. But as a leader, he didn't meet the expectations of his boss. He was relieved. Happens all the time. Wrong, I didn't immediately start yamering on about Chuck Long. I said....."Some Long Haters aren't going to like this."... I said that because of a thread a couple of months ago where many posters (some on this very thread and others that are hiding) said that Chuck Long didn't recruit any good players. When I mentioned Ryan Lindley and Vincent Brown, a few of them said that he wasn't impressed with Ryan Lindley. Another said Lindley was very over rated. They then went on to say Chuck Long didn't recruit any good players. On Vincent they said (and one on this board insuinutated) that Long was lucky to have recruited Vincent Brown. These are comments that I will always respond too. Because they aren't true and are just said to try to stomp Chuck Long into the ground further. As this article clearly shows, Ryan Lindley is very well respected and a very good QB. At the same time he was a Chuck Long recruit (that is a fact.....). |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:59:08 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. Yeah, but just to play the Devil's advocate, SDSU was THE school Lindley always wanted to play for, so I'm not sure how much credit you can give Long. =Bob That doesn't matter at all Bob....Chuck Long got him and no other team did. What is the excuse of how Chuck Long lucked into Vincent Brown? |
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Post by some_aztec on Jul 29, 2010 17:00:45 GMT -8
Now with a year under his belt, Lindley should find more success in San Diego. His top receivers — DeMarco Simpson and Vincent Brown — are back and should give him plenty of options to throw out.In an odd way, I have to wonder if Brown going down last season wasn't one of those moments in history when things change. With Vincent gone DeMarco rose to the occasion and became the receiver everyone (well maybe except him) knew he could be. With the confidence DeMarco finally found last season, it has to bode well for our passing attack this year. We are finally once again blessed with a plethora of talented receivers and hopefully Hillman or another RB will step up and offer a ground game that will push the team into a damn fine season. It just seems to me that it sometimes takes adversity to cause someone with character, but maybe not as much self-assurance as he should have, to step up and learn something about himself and his talent. I think it was pretty clear than Vince is going to play on Sundays, but it was up to DeMarco to prove he can do the same and he stepped up big time. It's going to be a fun season. =Bob Good post =Bob. I agree. I'm hoping that we're able to surprise some people and start putting up a big number on the scoreboard week-in/week-out. If we do well offensively this year, make a bowl game, I think that the number of SDSU season tickets sold for next year will go up if we properly hype Lindley (assuming he doesn't have an amazing year and goes pro) and the program. |
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Post by backwhenaztec on Jul 29, 2010 17:13:15 GMT -8
Let's speak highly of Lindley and the current players and staff and let's leave the Chuck Long support where it belongs.... IN THE PAST
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 17:20:25 GMT -8
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Post by dshawfan on Jul 29, 2010 17:47:27 GMT -8
Can't believe I missed that one! ;D |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 29, 2010 20:51:16 GMT -8
 Good grief, Charlie Brown... Come on, folks. Let's all get along. Or at least be halfway civil. There's no need to pile on Steve. He seems like a good guy. He may have faults, but we all do - even me (although you may find that hard to believe). And Steve, on a thread about Lindley there wasn't a need to bring up Chuck Long. If Craft had still been the coach Lindley likely would have still gone to SDSU. (Which is why it wasn't necessary to bring up Chuck.) But just because Steve brings up Chuck doesn't mean anyone has to respond to it. My take on Steve's Chuck Long stance has more to do with his take on how Chuck Long was treated more than his support of the man as a Head Coach. He hasn't always been subtle, but if you just let it go he won't comment further. We all know that Chuck Long failed. Steve knows it, too. Let's just move on... And I do want to make sure that the comments are not directed at the members of the board. Let's keep the personal stuff out of this. Let's talk about 2010 and Ryan Lindley. The kid's got great upside and could end up being one of the Aztecs' all time greats if this staff is half as good as they're supposed to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 8:13:25 GMT -8
I can think of one right off the bat, You're a KISS fan!  He may have faults, but we all do - even me (although you may find that hard to believe). |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 10:03:10 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. "Top three" or "top five" in terms of what? Yardage? Just don't tell me he'll be one of the three or five "best" QB's in our history... In both yardage AND in QB's in our history. (IMO) |
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