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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 10:08:37 GMT -8
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 10:10:21 GMT -8
Cmon folks.... Chuck Long got 3 years, with let's say an avg of 18 recruits a year.. That's 56 young men brought to SDSU that were supposed to be good football players.. Outta the 56 players, AztecSteve n others are arguing about 1 good player?? Hello, hasn't that been the problem?? Long brought in 1 good player for every 5 players that shouldn't see the field! And when all is said and done, Chucks record both on the field and in the classroom speak for itself... WAKE UP STEVE, go bother Jayhawk board!
Let's speak highly of Lindley and the current players and staff and let's leave the Chuck Long support where it belongs.... IN THE PASTPost of the year. If it was only true. I support Brady Hoke 100% and have since he was hired. I support Chuck Longs recruits AND Brady Hokes recruits. I have never said Chuck Long was a good head coach. I have not varied from any of those points for 2 years. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 10:19:03 GMT -8
 Good grief, Charlie Brown... Come on, folks. Let's all get along. Or at least be halfway civil. There's no need to pile on Steve. He seems like a good guy. He may have faults, but we all do - even me (although you may find that hard to believe). And Steve, on a thread about Lindley there wasn't a need to bring up Chuck Long. If Craft had still been the coach Lindley likely would have still gone to SDSU. (Which is why it wasn't necessary to bring up Chuck.) But just because Steve brings up Chuck doesn't mean anyone has to respond to it. My take on Steve's Chuck Long stance has more to do with his take on how Chuck Long was treated more than his support of the man as a Head Coach. He hasn't always been subtle, but if you just let it go he won't comment further. We all know that Chuck Long failed. Steve knows it, too. Let's just move on... And I do want to make sure that the comments are not directed at the members of the board. Let's keep the personal stuff out of this. Let's talk about 2010 and Ryan Lindley. The kid's got great upside and could end up being one of the Aztecs' all time greats if this staff is half as good as they're supposed to be. Well said B5...Thank you. My entire point on Chuck Long topics with this board (and the others) is this... People have told me for two years to NOT respond to anyone that makes comments about Chuck Long... Yet, when I make a comment about Chuck Long, everyone responds. (See the 10/20 page threads) Why should I not mention Chuck Long, if everyone else is allowed to mention Chuck Long. Again, read my signature....It is my only feelings on the Chuck Long situation and has been from the start. For those who DON'T believe my signature words......So be it, that is your problem. |
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Post by some_aztec on Jul 30, 2010 10:25:52 GMT -8
Good grief, Charlie Brown... Come on, folks. Let's all get along. Or at least be halfway civil. There's no need to pile on Steve. He seems like a good guy. He may have faults, but we all do - even me (although you may find that hard to believe). And Steve, on a thread about Lindley there wasn't a need to bring up Chuck Long. If Craft had still been the coach Lindley likely would have still gone to SDSU. (Which is why it wasn't necessary to bring up Chuck.) But just because Steve brings up Chuck doesn't mean anyone has to respond to it. My take on Steve's Chuck Long stance has more to do with his take on how Chuck Long was treated more than his support of the man as a Head Coach. He hasn't always been subtle, but if you just let it go he won't comment further. We all know that Chuck Long failed. Steve knows it, too. Let's just move on... And I do want to make sure that the comments are not directed at the members of the board. Let's keep the personal stuff out of this. Let's talk about 2010 and Ryan Lindley. The kid's got great upside and could end up being one of the Aztecs' all time greats if this staff is half as good as they're supposed to be. Good call. Because the last time a current SDSU player (other than Strausberg) was mentioned in a Florida newspaper was probably Marshall Faulk... Let's celebrate one of the few successes we have :-) |
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Post by longtimebooster on Jul 30, 2010 10:26:35 GMT -8
Kudos to Lindley. 'Nuff said.
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Post by longtimebooster on Jul 30, 2010 10:34:21 GMT -8
BTW, the Orlando Sentinel knows college football. Back when people still read newspapers (late '90s/early '00s), I was in Orlando for an annual tradeshow every October. I was amazed at how much attention everyone paid to college football. In fact, on Saturdays and Sundays, the Orlando Sentinel would publish its regular sports page, as well as a completely different section on just college football. It was amazing. While their focus was skewed toward the SEC and ACC, they really covered the sport nationally. They even had full previews and recaps of all the MGC games. So if the Orlando Sentinel says they like Lindley, that's a pretty good endorsement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 10:40:11 GMT -8
Thanks to some_aztec and LTB for contributing to the actual topic at hand.
Thanks also to Erik for trying to moderate yet another hijacked thread. Props to you, Erik. (Well, except for your occasional taste in music.)
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Post by fowl on Jul 30, 2010 10:40:29 GMT -8
This is not going to make some Aztec fans happy. As I have said, this Chuck Long recruit will probably become one of the Top 3 QB's in Aztec History before he is done. He will be one of the top 5 for sure......And THAT my friends is saying a lot. Steve, I admire your tenacity and sticking up for what you believe in. However, you have repeatedly stated that you don't invoke Long's name unless someone else brings it up. The above post was the second post of this thread and nowhere in the OP was Long's name uttered. Stick to your word and people will respect your view. It is apparent that you seek out confrontations regarding Long as witnessed in this and other threads where you strike first. Chuck Long is a valid topic on this board IMO and I agree with you that any coach should be given five years before the plug is pulled UNLESS there is clear evidence that the coach has lost his players or there is regression which I believe to be the case. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 30, 2010 10:58:16 GMT -8
OK, folks - let's get back on topic so we can keep this thread open.
No more Chuck Long comments on this thread, please. No more comments about Steve or any other board member. Ryan Lindley is a much more interesting topic...
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Post by theMesa on Jul 30, 2010 11:11:31 GMT -8
I am delighted to hear the Orlando Sentinel covers national college football. I travel to Jacksonville every fall to visit family and have found the local fishwrap totally devoid of anything other than SEC sports. They even had a section devoted almost entirely to Tim Tebow! As far as anything else, it's a total wasteland.
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Post by joshjones1 on Jul 30, 2010 11:31:28 GMT -8
You really can't let it go. Not after the two threads and comments over the last 3 days. As I have said, I will talk about this for the next 10 years if you guys want to. It will be up to you guys as to when to stop. (See Cannons post above as an example) Dude, YOU brought up Long on this one. Just talk about Lindley.....not Long. |
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Post by aztec619 on Jul 30, 2010 11:53:13 GMT -8
"Top three" or "top five" in terms of what? Yardage? Just don't tell me he'll be one of the three or five "best" QB's in our history... In both yardage AND in QB's in our history. (IMO) Let's hope so Steve. But we have had good qb's in past for RL to be considered to be top 3. He will have to have an incredible 2 more years to get there, IMO. I think as most do as well is that the Oline is the key. If he has time as in not running for his life, he will have a monster year considering the weapons he has...how many more days til camp again? |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:07:37 GMT -8
Not after the two threads and comments over the last 3 days. As I have said, I will talk about this for the next 10 years if you guys want to. It will be up to you guys as to when to stop. (See Cannons post above as an example) Dude, YOU brought up Long on this one. Just talk about Lindley.....not Long. Josh, thanks for following B5's advise as a MOD just two posts above yours. You opened the vault again. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:09:05 GMT -8
Steve you have a serious complex man, your behavior is seriously childish and screams of a desire for attention... I know Steve quite well, and he most certainly does NOT have any "complex." At least when it comes to sports. The whole Doobie Bros thing is a different matter entire.  Why he prefers the MM era to the earlier stuff I'll never understand. Even the album covers go from bad to worse. I mean holy christ look at these:     Ohhh Myyyy....You owe me 3 cans for that MM comment.  And your album covers are killing me....."Bullits....No Cross!" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 12:10:04 GMT -8
Only the last two are bad. The final one particularly so. Brings back memories of the ex's old Air Supply albums.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 12:10:23 GMT -8
10 ...how many more days til camp again? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 12:11:24 GMT -8
South (Florida) is college football CRAZY BTW, the Orlando Sentinel knows college football. Back when people still read newspapers (late '90s/early '00s), I was in Orlando for an annual tradeshow every October. I was amazed at how much attention everyone paid to college football. In fact, on Saturdays and Sundays, the Orlando Sentinel would publish its regular sports page, as well as a completely different section on just college football. It was amazing. While their focus was skewed toward the SEC and ACC, they really covered the sport nationally. They even had full previews and recaps of all the MGC games. So if the Orlando Sentinel says they like Lindley, that's a pretty good endorsement. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:11:57 GMT -8
In both yardage AND in QB's in our history. (IMO) Let's hope so Steve. But we have had good qb's in past for RL to be considered to be top 3. He will have to have an incredible 2 more years to get there, IMO. I think as most do as well is that the Oline is the key. If he has time as in not running for his life, he will have a monster year considering the weapons he has...how many more days til camp again? Here is the most amazing thing to me about Ryan Lindley. He has had 2 very good seasons even though... -He has had 2 different coaches with 2 totally different game plans. -Both years he has had subpar Oline work and no running game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 12:16:48 GMT -8
Agree with all of this, except I'd call them "good" instead of "very" good. I think he's in for a "very" good year this year. Here is the most amazing thing to me about Ryan Lindley. He has had 2 very good season even though... -He has had 2 different coaches with 2 totally different game plans. -Both years he has had subpar Oline work and no running game. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:36:08 GMT -8
Lindley may have always wanted to go to SDSU, but Long did a good job of Quarterback coaching him when he got here. It's what you do with the recruit once he get's here.
It reminds me of the times when people were saying, well KO always wanted to come to SDSU so it wasn't some big coup when Craft got him. Craft coached him up when he got here and helped mold him into a good player.
Also, I think I know Steve well enough to say that it is DEFINATELY more of a human being issue with him, rather than his Love for Long. He simply didn't feel that he got the amount of time he needed with his own recruits on the field, and that he has been piled on unfairly by many people, amongst many other reasons. He always feels strongly about standing up for ANYBODY that he feels is being treated poorly.
I have the same feelings.
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