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Post by aztecbully on Sept 24, 2012 23:23:10 GMT -8
to be associated with 30 percent of the posters on this board. So we have turnovers, allow huge runbacks, but outplay a good San Jose team that almost beat Stanford who beat USC and folks are losing their heads. $#!+ happens people. Grow up. I'm mad we lost too, but give them credit they made plays when they had to. I'm usually the first person to be really down after a loss, but not tonight. Ok.. let loose on me. I can take it. Actually, I think it was 34% that you should be ashamed of (not the 30% that you have apparently estimated incorrectly.)
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Post by mattpohl on Sept 24, 2012 23:50:24 GMT -8
If running for almost 300 yards isn't a positive, I guess I'll have to adjust my thinking. Hang in there, Matt If you're an Aztec fan games like yesterday are nothing new...(actually becoming the norm). There is no positive from the game. What we did well, we should have done well. Losing is the only thing that matters and we have done way too much. The culture was changing under Hoke, now it has gone back to the way it was during the 10yrs prior. If the fans aren't upset, then you are not a fan. The kids play hard and they should. No pat on the back from me there. For things to change, we need to get better recruitsand that all starts with the Head Coach. I am looking forward to the new coach and think the search should begin ASAP!!
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 25, 2012 7:22:06 GMT -8
I am with you Wayne- what a bunch of friggin whinners.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 25, 2012 9:05:06 GMT -8
Yes, because we're not Alabama no matter how much you want to believe it. So it's considering us to be Alabama if I think SDSU is better than losing to every bowl team on it's schedule and then losing to a 4th place Sun Belt team? $#!+. Some of you guys have real loser mentality Dude, we're 2-2, not 0-4. The season isn't over yet. Speaking of losers, way to quit at the 1/3 mark.
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Post by monty on Sept 25, 2012 9:11:28 GMT -8
So it's considering us to be Alabama if I think SDSU is better than losing to every bowl team on it's schedule and then losing to a 4th place Sun Belt team? $#!+. Some of you guys have real loser mentality Dude, we're 2-2, not 0-4. The season isn't over yet. Speaking of losers, way to quit at the 1/3 mark. You are impressed with beating a 1aa and Army?
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Post by jdgaucho on Sept 25, 2012 9:13:55 GMT -8
Dude, we're 2-2, not 0-4. The season isn't over yet. Speaking of losers, way to quit at the 1/3 mark. You are impressed with beating a 1aa and Army? doesn't matter. wins are wins
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Post by myownwords on Sept 25, 2012 9:15:33 GMT -8
You are impressed with beating a 1aa and Army? doesn't matter. wins are wins I hope the smiley face means you're joking, yes?
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Post by monty on Sept 25, 2012 9:15:39 GMT -8
You are impressed with beating a 1aa and Army? doesn't matter. wins are wins And we beat your cowgirls in the only sport that really matters - women's soccer.
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Post by jdgaucho on Sept 25, 2012 9:16:56 GMT -8
doesn't matter. wins are wins And we beat your cowgirls in the only sport that really matters - women's soccer. San Jose State.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 9:22:32 GMT -8
Why should San Jose be able to recruit athletes that can come to our stadium and beat us? What advantages do they have? Their players are not superior to ours as you imply. In fact, although they have some quality athletes, their talent overall is inferior to ours. However, I think we have a few big holes in our staff and assuming Rocky returns in 2013, he needs to fill those holes or we will finish near the bottom of the BE.
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Post by monty on Sept 25, 2012 9:26:20 GMT -8
And we beat your cowgirls in the only sport that really matters - women's soccer. San Jose State. We're in the big west now, the only thing that matters is women's soccer and badminton
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Post by jdgaucho on Sept 25, 2012 9:38:18 GMT -8
We're in the big west now, the only thing that matters is women's soccer and badminton i hear winston shepard swings a really mean racket
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 9:54:52 GMT -8
The people who know more than any of us had it at a -3. That means that SDSU and SJSU are about equal.
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Post by sparticulous on Sept 25, 2012 10:34:49 GMT -8
Oh, I don't know about that. Your team was horrid every year for eleven consecutive seasons (1999-2009). SJSU at least had some decent years during that period (2000, 2006 and 2008) including a bowl victory in '06. SJSU also has won the last three meetings against SDSU, and leads the all-time series 19-15. In the 2006 and 2008 match-ups, SJSU outscored the Aztecs by a combined total of 66-20. Then, of course, there was the win this past Saturday. Look, the Aztecs have had two good seasons. It's a start, but it doesn't make your program elite... especially given your SOS in 2010 and 2011. San Jose has been quietly rebuilding these last two seasons since Coach MacIntyre arrived in 2010. We are now seeing the fruits of his labor on the field. He has assembled an awesome coaching staff and has had three outstanding recruiting seasons. This is not the same SJSU squad that finished 1-11 in 2010. SJSU is not sitting still, and losing to the Spartans in 2012 is not something to be ashamed of. Hec... it nearly happened to Stanford. Tell me this: If SJSU wins ten games this season, will you still feel this loss represents a step backward for your program? Your team obviously has some kicking game and special teams deficiencies that need to be addressed, but overall your team is very talented. If Rocky can successfully address the problem areas, your team will beat the likes of Fresno handily. Hec, even SJSU beat Fresno last year in Fresno. Against a good team, though, you cannot make the kinds of mistakes your guys made Saturday and expect to get away with the win. Yes... your rush D was stout and you had a good day on the ground running the ball, but you can't lose the field position battle by a lopsided margin and expect to win against a good team. Our offense and our QB are the real deal. SJSU's passing game is ranked 19th in the country and our O is ranked 44th overall. Fales picked your D apart in the fourth quarter, and our D stiffened when it needed to. Don't be ashamed. Your guys kept it close against a good team, even after blowing punt coverage twice and giving away yet more yardage due to a crap kicking game. In the end, both teams have clearly improved (big-time) since our dark eras, and are fairly evenly matched right now. I understand you guys are upset, but did anyone here consider SJSU might be underrated? We took a top-10 team (Stanford) down to the wire and annihilated Davis and Colorado State. Our coach, with help from a very supportive admin, has quietly rebuilt our program from the ground up after many years of hardship. We finished 5-7 last season, but were easily a handful of plays away from 7-5. Even our 1-11 season in 2010 was hampered by a new playbook, a freakish number of injuries, and a spate of bad luck on the field that resulted in five losses by one score or less. I have been following SJSU football for a long time, and this current group is among the most talented, highly-conditioned and well-coached Spartan teams to take the field in over 20 years. Moreover, anyone who is close to this program was expecting a very close, competitive game, and was not surprised by the win. That's not a slam against SDSU, but rather speaks to the quality of this Spartan team and coaching staff. Actually, I predict both SDSU and SJSU will win a lot of games this season. Also, regarding the obvious disdain on this board for SJSU, I understand our team has mostly sucked for a long time, so I'm not surprised by it, but I would be remiss if I didn't point out (perhaps to some of your younger fans), that SJSU has now won the last three meetings (2006, 2008 and 2012), and SJSU now leads the overall series 19-15. Frankly, if we had lost to SDSU, many Spartan fans would likewise have viewed the game as a step backward for our program. Yes... our guys got off to a slow start Saturday, but they made big plays when they had to and left with their third straight victory over the Aztecs. Onward-- It is absolutely unacceptable, you guys were in the toilet more recently than we were and you went and beat Retiree Long. It is completely unacceptable
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Post by AztecBill on Sept 25, 2012 11:32:17 GMT -8
Oh, I don't know about that. Your team was horrid every year for eleven consecutive seasons (1999-2009). SJSU at least had some decent years during that period (2000, 2006 and 2008) including a bowl victory in '06. SJSU also has won the last three meetings against SDSU, and leads the all-time series 19-15. In the 2006 and 2008 match-ups, SJSU outscored the Aztecs by a combined total of 66-20. Then, of course, there was the win this past Saturday. Look, the Aztecs have had two good seasons. It's a start, but it doesn't make your program elite... especially given your SOS in 2010 and 2011. San Jose has been quietly rebuilding these last two seasons since Coach MacIntyre arrived in 2010. We are now seeing the fruits of his labor on the field. He has assembled an awesome coaching staff and has had three outstanding recruiting seasons. This is not the same SJSU squad that finished 1-11 in 2010. SJSU is not sitting still, and losing to the Spartans in 2012 is not something to be ashamed of. Hec... it nearly happened to Stanford. Tell me this: If SJSU wins ten games this season, will you still feel this loss represents a step backward for your program? Your team obviously has some kicking game and special teams deficiencies that need to be addressed, but overall your team is very talented. If Rocky can successfully address the problem areas, your team will beat the likes of Fresno handily. Hec, even SJSU beat Fresno last year in Fresno. Against a good team, though, you cannot make the kinds of mistakes your guys made Saturday and expect to get away with the win. Yes... your rush D was stout and you had a good day on the ground running the ball, but you can't lose the field position battle by a lopsided margin and expect to win against a good team. Our offense and our QB are the real deal. SJSU's passing game is ranked 19th in the country and our O is ranked 44th overall. Fales picked your D apart in the fourth quarter, and our D stiffened when it needed to. Don't be ashamed. Your guys kept it close against a good team, even after blowing punt coverage twice and giving away yet more yardage due to a crap kicking game. In the end, both teams have clearly improved (big-time) since our dark eras, and are fairly evenly matched right now. It is absolutely unacceptable, you guys were in the toilet more recently than we were and you went and beat Retiree Long. It is completely unacceptable Since Hoke came to town the Aztecs recruiting has been much better than SJSU. But the first of those classes are only redshirt Sopomores. Only redshirt freshmen are classes that a coach had a full year to recruit. In two (or three) years when we get a full squad of Hoke and Rocky recruits, the Aztecs will be a much better team. The game this year will probably be the last chance for SJSU to really compete on a fairly even basis with the Aztecs. That is because, as shown below, the gap between our recruiting is getting bigger every year. Moving to the Big East will probably insure that will continue. Espn/Scout Football Recruit Ratings Rocky | SDSU 2013 | 79 | 76 | 74 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 64 | | | | | | | | | | | SJSU 2013 | 0 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Rocky | SDSU 2012 | 79 | 77 | 77 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 73 | 73 | 72 | 69 | 69 | | | | | SJSU 2012 | 77 | 76 | 75 | 73 | 71 | 71 | 70 | 68 | 67 | | | | | | | | | | Hoke/Rocky | SDSU 2011 | 77 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 74 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 71 | 68 | 67 | | SJSU 2011 | 77 | 76 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 71 | 71 | 71 | 70 | | | | | | | | | | Hoke | SDSU 2010 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 69 | | | | | | | | | | SJSU 2010 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 73 | 70 | 69 | 69 | | | | | | | | | | |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 12:02:14 GMT -8
What a bunch of whiners. We lose to UW to open the season, in a game that we still had a chance in and lose to a 3-1 SJSU team that gave Stanford all they could handle and you are all going on like we lost to Cal Poly again. People keep saying a mediocre SJSU team, but everything about their play this year puts them on the brink of the top 25. So how are they mediocre? Instead of realizing how close our team is, and supporting them, we are talking about dropping a head coach who was the 1st in SDSU history to take the team to a bowl in his first year. Who is also the guy that stayed with the team as Hoke left for Michigan. we have 8 games left. This team still should win 8 games as far as I can tell. You guys keep crying about things and Ill stay with my team until the END of the season. Then we can talk about changes...if thy're even needed.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 25, 2012 12:18:20 GMT -8
Dude, we're 2-2, not 0-4. The season isn't over yet. Speaking of losers, way to quit at the 1/3 mark. You are impressed with beating a 1aa and Army? Nope. But, I'm not distraught about losing close games to teams on the fringe of the top 25.
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Post by sparticulous on Sept 25, 2012 13:03:03 GMT -8
Okay...so your recruiting was moderately better than ours during a couple of seasons when our team was down and our future with the WAC (or any other conference for that matter) was uncertain. (It's pointless to include 2013 right now.)
Your prediction, though, assumes SJSU recruitment will remain the same or worsen while yours will only get better. Given our team's conference affiliation will improve after this season, and assuming our team finishes at or near the top of the WAC this year, one could reasonably assume our recruitment will improve as well.
I think your real ace in the hole is the BE money coming your way in the near future. This more than anything could help to separate you from your CSU brethren. Of course, there are plenty of AQ conference teams with lousy football programs... I'm thinking of programs like Washington State or say Indiana or Minnesota in the Big10. Then you've got Vandy, etc., so nothing is guaranteed.
In the end, you lost a close game this weekend to a team that has received top-25 votes two weeks in a row, and both programs are generally on the upswing after many years of sucking. Moreover, you're leaving for an AQ conference in due time. Lots to be proud of, and very little to be ashamed of. It could be worse. Colorado State lost to a FCS team before losing to SJSU by 20 points.
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Post by spartanmark on Sept 26, 2012 18:59:11 GMT -8
Mediocre? Ummm...ok? Beat the Aztecs three in a row. Imagine how us 30 percent feel that people are making excuses for losing to a mediocre San Jose State team at home
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Post by spartanmark on Sept 26, 2012 19:14:49 GMT -8
Ummmm...ok? LOL. Better recruits according to whom? Some guy on a computer sitting in his underwear in his mom's basement? You just got beat in your place by a bunch of Frosh, Sophs, and Juniors from SJSU. Next year, you will see the same guys in our place while you are breaking in a new QB, OL, and RB's. Good luck with that. Oh, I don't know about that. Your team was horrid every year for eleven consecutive seasons (1999-2009). SJSU at least had some decent years during that period (2000, 2006 and 2008) including a bowl victory in '06. SJSU also has won the last three meetings against SDSU, and leads the all-time series 19-15. In the 2006 and 2008 match-ups, SJSU outscored the Aztecs by a combined total of 66-20. Then, of course, there was the win this past Saturday. Look, the Aztecs have had two good seasons. It's a start, but it doesn't make your program elite... especially given your SOS in 2010 and 2011. San Jose has been quietly rebuilding these last two seasons since Coach MacIntyre arrived in 2010. We are now seeing the fruits of his labor on the field. He has assembled an awesome coaching staff and has had three outstanding recruiting seasons. This is not the same SJSU squad that finished 1-11 in 2010. SJSU is not sitting still, and losing to the Spartans in 2012 is not something to be ashamed of. Hec... it nearly happened to Stanford. Tell me this: If SJSU wins ten games this season, will you still feel this loss represents a step backward for your program? Your team obviously has some kicking game and special teams deficiencies that need to be addressed, but overall your team is very talented. If Rocky can successfully address the problem areas, your team will beat the likes of Fresno handily. Hec, even SJSU beat Fresno last year in Fresno. Against a good team, though, you cannot make the kinds of mistakes your guys made Saturday and expect to get away with the win. Yes... your rush D was stout and you had a good day on the ground running the ball, but you can't lose the field position battle by a lopsided margin and expect to win against a good team. Our offense and our QB are the real deal. SJSU's passing game is ranked 19th in the country and our O is ranked 44th overall. Fales picked your D apart in the fourth quarter, and our D stiffened when it needed to. Don't be ashamed. Your guys kept it close against a good team, even after blowing punt coverage twice and giving away yet more yardage due to a crap kicking game. In the end, both teams have clearly improved (big-time) since our dark eras, and are fairly evenly matched right now. Since Hoke came to town the Aztecs recruiting has been much better than SJSU. But the first of those classes are only redshirt Sopomores. Only redshirt freshmen are classes that a coach had a full year to recruit. In two (or three) years when we get a full squad of Hoke and Rocky recruits, the Aztecs will be a much better team. The game this year will probably be the last chance for SJSU to really compete on a fairly even basis with the Aztecs. That is because, as shown below, the gap between our recruiting is getting bigger every year. Moving to the Big East will probably insure that will continue. Espn/Scout Football Recruit Ratings Rocky | SDSU 2013 | 79 | 76 | 74 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 64 | | | | | | | | | | | SJSU 2013 | 0 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Rocky | SDSU 2012 | 79 | 77 | 77 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 73 | 73 | 72 | 69 | 69 | | | | | SJSU 2012 | 77 | 76 | 75 | 73 | 71 | 71 | 70 | 68 | 67 | | | | | | | | | | Hoke/Rocky | SDSU 2011 | 77 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 74 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 72 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 71 | 68 | 67 | | SJSU 2011 | 77 | 76 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 71 | 71 | 71 | 70 | | | | | | | | | | Hoke | SDSU 2010 | 76 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 73 | 69 | | | | | | | | | | SJSU 2010 | 76 | 75 | 75 | 75 | 73 | 70 | 69 | 69 | | | | | | | | | | |
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