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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 4, 2012 17:11:43 GMT -8
Monty,
BB and football don't mesh. We can fire Rocky anytime. But we only got one turnover from the Huskies. We need at least two and preferrably more. A -2 turnover margin wins about 1% or 2% of the time. But let's hang Rocky anyway.
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 17:13:46 GMT -8
Monty, BB and football don't mesh. We can fire Rocky anytime. But we only got one turnover from the Huskies. We need at least two and preferrably more. A -2 turnover margin wins about 1% or 2% of the time. But let's hang Rocky anyway.Can we get a real coach then? Not one that is 8-6 versus one of the worst schedules in the country over the last 14 games?
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Post by killiansc on Sept 4, 2012 18:13:10 GMT -8
It is hardly the perfect analogy. It is fine that fans don't like RL as a the head coach. They may be right that he will not take SDSU to the next level (whatever that means) but this loss was really not about kicking or not... the loss was about the turnovers and UW making more plays than the Aztecs did. Honestly, as I said elsewhere, if the Aztec had made one (or both) of the 2 - point conversions they still would have lost. If they had kicked both PATs or missed both or one, they still would have lost. As a matter of fact, had they done any of the above, they still would have gone for it on 4th and 9 (and not try for the FG) and still would have lost. Wouldn't it be better to stop arguing about the kick or not kick... everyone will have a whole season to point out all the bad things that RL does. Let's say fish decides to do the line drive free throw plan the last minute of the game, they miss 2 front ends of the 1:1s and fail to get the rebounds, now they are down 4 in the final 30 seconds instead of 2, you are going to tell me that the strategy of the game didn't just change? Huh?
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Post by aztecgold on Sept 4, 2012 18:28:19 GMT -8
I love him as a DC. Not sure if he is the guy who is going to take us into the Big 12 or PAC 12. He seems more suited to a UNM and getting players to overachieve than bringing in 4 and 5 star players. The problem is SDSU needs to win now if they want to stay relevant in big time football. I am pulling for him though because he may be our last chance.
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 4, 2012 20:31:35 GMT -8
1 full season, and one game in to the following season - still with a winning record. But it's obvious to you that he needs to be fired. Yes, you are either new to sports, or you are a complete idiot. You tell us.
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 4, 2012 20:39:20 GMT -8
1 full season, and one game in to the following season - still with a winning record. But it's obvious to you that he needs to be fired. Yes, you are either new to sports, or you are a complete idiot. You tell us. I think the point is Rock inherited the team as a way to keep continuity after Hoke left. Seemed logical and safe at the time. I understand how it came to pass, but honestly, everyone is "hoping" it will work out, not "expecting" it to work out. I have nothing against coach. He is a nice guy and very capable, its just not the personality that brings change and improvement. Hoke knew how to motivate, could hold a conversation with anyone, showed excitement. That is the kind of guy I want in any recruits living room. Quiet and confident doesn't woo high school kids like it once did.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 4, 2012 20:52:38 GMT -8
UncleDougy,
Bill Belichick would never meet your criteria. Yet he is arguably the best coach that has ever lived.....Vince Lombaridi notwithstanding. So give Rocky a chance...fire him now or after Clinton is re-elected?
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 4, 2012 21:07:49 GMT -8
UncleDougy, Bill Belichick would never meet your criteria. Yet he is arguably the best coach that has ever lived.....Vince Lombaridi notwithstanding. So give Rocky a chance...fire him now or after Clinton is re-elected? I am giving him a chance. I understand your point, but both Belichick and Vince are in the NFL. They are coaching professionals who don't need the rah-rah crap. Those players get paid so quient and confident gains respect from athletes at that level.
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 21:07:55 GMT -8
1 full season, and one game in to the following season - still with a winning record. But it's obvious to you that he needs to be fired. Yes, you are either new to sports, or you are a complete idiot. You tell us. What's his record against teams with a pulse?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 23:20:10 GMT -8
Rocky and Coach White already saved are 2012 recruiting class. The naysayers I guess would want them all to transfer,not good enough. The people who ar complaining are basically Football equyivalents to Mole rats who follow each other around eating the mole rat infront of hims excrement. The fact is its not just schemes its players and few of the upperclassman are close to the talent the freshman,redshirt freshman and sophomore classes. This is going to be one of the best defensive teams we have had and if ere can devlop two cbs for next year even better in 2013. The whole offense except two O' lineman will be back next year as well. look how good Houston is now that Sumlins gone. I have been to New Mexico and seen its field hell it is about the same as it was when I was playing freshman football at ASU during Mckinley administration. Who did Hoke beat that was great,nobody because he was not playing anybody great. The genuises who think Coach Long is an idiot or incompetent have not proved ot em they know what the hell they are talking about. Last year we had two fwalk on starting at de at one point. Now we have solid athletes who just need some experience. WE are gettign better.
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 5, 2012 8:17:45 GMT -8
The whole offense except two O' lineman will be back next year as well. Well, don't forget our starting QB will be gone too, but I have a feeling Dingwell will gain some valuable experience this year.
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 5, 2012 8:39:58 GMT -8
1 full season, and one game in to the following season - still with a winning record. But it's obvious to you that he needs to be fired. Yes, you are either new to sports, or you are a complete idiot. You tell us. What's his record against teams with a pulse? If you're being literal.....the same. Look, my only beef with you anti-Rocky people is you're basing your arguments on 1) assumptions that he does not motivate his players 2) assumptions that he's not right for the job based on 15 games 3) assumptions that his record at a veritable football graveyard of a school (UNM) will be reflective of his potential at a school that resides in a state with a goldmine of football talent. What's the key word here? "Assumptions" If we're sitting at year 4 of Rocky's regime, and there's no visible progress, have at it. Until then, stop trying to make all of your assumptions into facts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 16:50:20 GMT -8
What's his record against teams with a pulse? If you're being literal.....the same. Look, my only beef with you anti-Rocky people is you're basing your arguments on 1) assumptions that he does not motivate his players 2) assumptions that he's not right for the job based on 15 games 3) assumptions that his record at a veritable football graveyard of a school (UNM) will be reflective of his potential at a school that resides in a state with a goldmine of football talent. What's the key word here? "Assumptions" If we're sitting at year 4 of Rocky's regime, and there's no visible progress, have at it. Until then, stop trying to make all of your assumptions into facts. He he is doing agood job Hoke andhe inherited a dearth of talent there is a tremendous amount of talent in the fosh and sophomore class. We were a couple of shanked field goals from 10 -3 and he fired the strength coach who had players with 14 surgeries. It was Katz first game in along time. If he plays like that the rest of year well,this is a problem. If he plays well he win a lot of games monty makes no sense he just parrots crap. I want a new coach. What Long brings is solid defense a tough minded attitude,and his staff can recruit. Thats how you build a program. you do not fire coachs after one season or two,thats how you become a loser.
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 5, 2012 20:37:55 GMT -8
If you're being literal.....the same. Look, my only beef with you anti-Rocky people is you're basing your arguments on 1) assumptions that he does not motivate his players 2) assumptions that he's not right for the job based on 15 games 3) assumptions that his record at a veritable football graveyard of a school (UNM) will be reflective of his potential at a school that resides in a state with a goldmine of football talent. What's the key word here? "Assumptions" If we're sitting at year 4 of Rocky's regime, and there's no visible progress, have at it. Until then, stop trying to make all of your assumptions into facts. you do not fire coachs after one season or two,thats how you become a loser. But that's how Dan Snyder, owner of the Redskins does it.......oh....wait....
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