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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Sept 3, 2012 8:18:49 GMT -8
turnovers lost the game for us in seattle, not Rocky's decision to go for 2 or the non FGA. Like an earlier post said, 5 points wouldn't have made a difference. Not to mention...all you by the book guys wouldn't have a TD as we converted on 4th twice to get the second TD. I expect more from this board. Where's the analysis of the game and the players. All this Rocky was UW mvp or Acee/Canepa questioning is bs and the articles they wrote are embarrassing. I thought our run game looked pretty good. Kazee was fantastic and muema and the OL improved as the game went on. Katz did make some plays with the tuck and run, but was either too quick to do so or couldn't check to an open man. Butler seemed almost disinterested which was odd as I thought he had some fine routes during the scrimmage. Sandifer was a pleasant surprise; not that i doubted his ability, just good to see him make a few plays. Overall i thought we ran a little better than average and pass was less than average. The OL held their own...not that UW defense is elite, but they opened holes and gave katz some time. With all the new pieces to the offense, we got better as the game went on. Defense was not there for the first two series, then stout. Mind you, they were bending here and there but made the play they needed to when the time came. Held them to 14, so ya that's above average. LMcFad and Nat were commanding. I think the scoreboard showed 10 tackles for loss. Special Teams...had some decent returns and we didn't give up much, so that's a plus. In fact we were better than them in both kicks and returns, which is funny. Net yards per punt..us 42 them 29 and net yards per kick us 35 them 29. And they were 0-1 FGA...lol. Thought most calls and spots favored UW but whatever you have to overcome that. Am I disappointed, yes. Am I outraged, headhunting or without hope...hell no. People need to relax and start planning for a fine tailgate on Saturday. See y'all at warrior walk. Nice post Ninja. I agree 100%.
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Post by aztecvatar on Sept 3, 2012 8:40:17 GMT -8
The five "sure points" we didn't go for still wouldn't have won the game. Exactly from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards 5 points is not just 5 points...in the context of the game, momentum and strategy in a one score game vs a two score game makes all the difference in the world.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Sept 3, 2012 8:58:13 GMT -8
Josh, Rocky is as good as done based on what I've read on this board. If he loses Saturday the question will be when.,...as in next Monday or Tuesday. This is one game that we lost to a good Washington team. Things could be worse. Like the one game "audition" that the new Houston O-Cord got before being asked to "resign." (cough*, cough*) Rocky isn't leaving any time soon unless we start losing to the North Dakotas and the UNLVs of the world. And even then we would have to see that he was correct in thinking that all of our kickers can't help us produce the wins we need. I still think we can win 9 games as long as we don't turn the ball over like it was a soccer game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 9:42:26 GMT -8
Josh, Rocky is as good as done based on what I've read on this board. If he loses Saturday the question will be when.,...as in next Monday or Tuesday. This is one game that we lost to a good Washington team. Things could be worse. Like the one game "audition" that the new Houston O-Cord got before being asked to "resign." (cough*, cough*) Rocky isn't leaving any time soon unless we start losing to the North Dakotas and the UNLVs of the world. And even then we would have to see that he was correct in thinking that all of our kickers can't help us produce the wins we need. I still think we can win 9 games as long as we don't turn the ball over like it was a soccer game. I agree and if the kickers start making it in paractice we will saee them in games.
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Post by ourtime on Sept 3, 2012 10:05:14 GMT -8
This is one game that we lost to a good Washington team. Things could be worse. Like the one game "audition" that the new Houston O-Cord got before being asked to "resign." (cough*, cough*) Rocky isn't leaving any time soon unless we start losing to the North Dakotas and the UNLVs of the world. And even then we would have to see that he was correct in thinking that all of our kickers can't help us produce the wins we need. I still think we can win 9 games as long as we don't turn the ball over like it was a soccer game. I agree and if the kickers start making it in paractice we will saee them in games. That is fine, except Rocky or someone on this staff evaluated, and recruited the kickers on the team, and Rocky had to sign off on offering them a scholarship. Like it or not this an indictment, not something to be spun into a positive. Furthermore, we're talking about extra points, and chip shot FG's, not 45 yard game winners. Which begs the question what if it comes down to the latter, then what?
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Post by ourtime on Sept 3, 2012 10:12:55 GMT -8
Exactly from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards 5 points is not just 5 points...in the context of the game, momentum and strategy in a one score game vs a two score game makes all the difference in the world. Completely agree. And while we can't play what-if, I think it is reasonable to assume that a favored home team, might feel some pressure in the last five minutes, if their 14-0 lead now sits at 21-17, and just maybe it could be a lift for our defense.
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Post by k5james on Sept 3, 2012 10:13:55 GMT -8
A lot of "mights" and "maybes" to get all worked up about...
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Post by aztecvatar on Sept 3, 2012 10:39:42 GMT -8
5 points is not just 5 points...in the context of the game, momentum and strategy in a one score game vs a two score game makes all the difference in the world. Completely agree. And while we can't play what-if, I think it is reasonable to assume that a favored home team, might feel some pressure in the last five minutes, if their 14-0 lead now sits at 21-17, and just maybe it could be a lift for our defense. yup...and some players crack under pressure and start making mistakes...we dug a hole for ourselves early and let them off the hook.
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Post by ourtime on Sept 3, 2012 12:42:27 GMT -8
A lot of "mights" and "maybes" to get all worked up about... Your right, but the case for stealing a game on the road, becomes a lot more compelling kicking the ball back to Wash. down 21-17, then turning it over on downs behind two possessions.
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 3, 2012 13:35:53 GMT -8
A lot of "mights" and "maybes" to get all worked up about... Your right, but the case for stealing a game on the road, becomes a lot more compelling kicking the ball back to Wash. down 21-17, then turning it over on downs behind two possessions. Exactly right. The momentum was shifting big time towards the Aztecs and knowing we needed 2 scores deflates a team, especially when most (if not all teams) would have been in position to win. I just don't accept losing to Washington, even if the were "better". You should never be happy just competing. I am PO'd after every loss. Especially one that is within reach had other decisions been made.
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Post by 99levi on Sept 3, 2012 14:10:12 GMT -8
turnovers lost the game for us in seattle, not Rocky's decision to go for 2 or the non FGA. Like an earlier post said, 5 points wouldn't have made a difference. Not to mention...all you by the book guys wouldn't have a TD as we converted on 4th twice to get the second TD. I expect more from this board. Where's the analysis of the game and the players. All this Rocky was UW mvp or Acee/Canepa questioning is bs and the articles they wrote are embarrassing. I thought our run game looked pretty good. Kazee was fantastic and muema and the OL improved as the game went on. Katz did make some plays with the tuck and run, but was either too quick to do so or couldn't check to an open man. Butler seemed almost disinterested which was odd as I thought he had some fine routes during the scrimmage. Sandifer was a pleasant surprise; not that i doubted his ability, just good to see him make a few plays. Overall i thought we ran a little better than average and pass was less than average. The OL held their own...not that UW defense is elite, but they opened holes and gave katz some time. With all the new pieces to the offense, we got better as the game went on. Defense was not there for the first two series, then stout. Mind you, they were bending here and there but made the play they needed to when the time came. Held them to 14, so ya that's above average. LMcFad and Nat were commanding. I think the scoreboard showed 10 tackles for loss. Special Teams...had some decent returns and we didn't give up much, so that's a plus. In fact we were better than them in both kicks and returns, which is funny. Net yards per punt..us 42 them 29 and net yards per kick us 35 them 29. And they were 0-1 FGA...lol. Thought most calls and spots favored UW but whatever you have to overcome that. Am I disappointed, yes. Am I outraged, headhunting or without hope...hell no. People need to relax and start planning for a fine tailgate on Saturday. See y'all at warrior walk. awesome post.
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Post by k5james on Sept 3, 2012 16:12:07 GMT -8
A lot of "mights" and "maybes" to get all worked up about... Your right, but the case for stealing a game on the road, becomes a lot more compelling kicking the ball back to Wash. down 21-17, then turning it over on downs behind two possessions. Not really. We needed a touchdown either way. It's easier to get a touchdown from six yards away than it is from 80.
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Post by killiansc on Sept 3, 2012 16:26:48 GMT -8
Your right, but the case for stealing a game on the road, becomes a lot more compelling kicking the ball back to Wash. down 21-17, then turning it over on downs behind two possessions. Not really. We needed a touchdown either way. It's easier to get a touchdown from six yards away than it is from 80. yep
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 3, 2012 16:56:30 GMT -8
Your right, but the case for stealing a game on the road, becomes a lot more compelling kicking the ball back to Wash. down 21-17, then turning it over on downs behind two possessions. Not really. We needed a touchdown either way. It's easier to get a touchdown from six yards away than it is from 80. In theory you are correct, in reality it would be better to have a drive from 80 yards to win, rather than make it a 2 score game. Getting the ball back with a chance to win puts alot of pressure on the favored home team, and the Aztec offense was moving the ball well late in the game. Lets assume the Aztecs scored a TD on the posession that stalled and got the 2pt conversion, we would still be relying on the kicker to kick the game winner. With that pressure on the kicker it's highly unlikely he would have made it.
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Post by k5james on Sept 3, 2012 16:58:51 GMT -8
Not really. We needed a touchdown either way. It's easier to get a touchdown from six yards away than it is from 80. In theory you are correct, in reality it would be better to have a drive from 80 yards to win, rather than make it a 2 score game. Getting the ball back with a chance to win puts alot of pressure on the favored home team, and the Aztec offense was moving the ball well late in the game. Lets assume the Aztecs scored a TD on the posession that stalled and got the 2pt conversion, we would still be relying on the kicker to kick the game winner. With that pressure on the kicker it's highly unlikely he would have made it. You're dealing with a lot of ifs and buts. The facts are, it's easier to score a touchdown from six yards out than it is from 80.
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Post by aztecvatar on Sept 3, 2012 17:45:00 GMT -8
by taking the sure 5 points, you eliminate a lot of "Ifs" and "buts".
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Post by carpediemaztec on Sept 3, 2012 20:01:41 GMT -8
Everyone complains about slow starts but I don't think it is a matter of slow starts or adjustments. It just takes a quarter or two for our linebackers to start making their running backs pay for every yard. By the second quarter, opposing runniing backs seem to hit the hole looking for our linebackers going headhunting instead of looking to run to daylight.
I love the way we play defense and our defense keeps us in every game. In years past when we would get behind 14 0 to a Pac 12 team and it was "el foldo" en route to a 45 -14 blowout.
With the defensive scheme put in place by Rocky, the Aztecs will be a very entertaining team and there is no reason we can't go bowling again.
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 5:58:35 GMT -8
The point shouldn't be you guys are happy as clams that we didn't get blown out, the point is we had every chance to win that game against a mediocre team and didn't. This is a hell of a round about thread to pat ourselves on the bat for a moral victory against a 7-6 team that will be lucky to get to that record this year.
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Post by k5james on Sept 4, 2012 6:06:30 GMT -8
The point shouldn't be you guys are happy as clams that we didn't get blown out, the point is we had every chance to win that game against a mediocre team and didn't. This is a hell of a round about thread to pat ourselves on the bat for a moral victory against a 7-6 team that will be lucky to get to that record this year. Nobody is happy, not me anyway. I just don't agree that it was the kicking that cost us the game. Turnovers cost us that game.
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 6:17:22 GMT -8
The point shouldn't be you guys are happy as clams that we didn't get blown out, the point is we had every chance to win that game against a mediocre team and didn't. This is a hell of a round about thread to pat ourselves on the bat for a moral victory against a 7-6 team that will be lucky to get to that record this year. Nobody is happy, not me anyway. I just don't agree that it was the kicking that cost us the game. Turnovers cost us that game. Turnovers and another wretched start. The kicking game stuff changed the complexion of the game and just kept adding obstacles we had to overcome to where we were never just a score/a play away despite shutting them down in the 2nd half - Rocky's plan never gave us a chance to win that game. But this is a great, hooray, we didn't get blown out by a team with a very slight pulse thread, in Rocky we trust.
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