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Post by longtimesdsufan on Sept 4, 2012 13:14:29 GMT -8
I worry about the education that many of you received from SDSU. Speaking without thinking is not good.
If you did not go to the scrimmage and did not go to the game, you did not see things. Those that did go, saw things that were not on TV. You can guess what is going on, but you did not see our kicking game.
Be idiots if you want, but the problem is not Rocky. It may be the special teams coach, it may be a lot of things. TRUTH: we do not have a average kicking game that a coach would feel free to use. There is a reason Rocky did not kick. He is more of a man than many here....he is taking the heat for his players.
Would you rather have him say that our kickers suck? Will that give them more confidence? Do you think that this board's obsession with perceived failures of previous kickers will encourage kickers to come to SDSU?
Those that went to the scrimmage and game could see that punting improved. They could also see that kickoffs improved. They also saw that place kicking is a work in progress.
But you had to be there.
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Post by aztecmichael on Sept 4, 2012 13:20:45 GMT -8
I worry about the education that many of you received from SDSU. Speaking without thinking is not good. If you did not go to the scrimmage and did not go to the game, you did not see things. Those that did go, saw things that were not on TV. You can guess what is going on, but you did not see our kicking game. Be idiots if you want, but the problem is not Rocky. It may be the special teams coach, it may be a lot of things. TRUTH: we do not have a average kicking game that a coach would feel free to use. There is a reason Rocky did not kick. He is more of a man than many here....he is taking the heat for his players. Would you rather have him say that our kickers suck? Will that give them more confidence? Do you think that this board's obsession with perceived failures of previous kickers will encourage kickers to come to SDSU? Those that went to the scrimmage and game could see that punting improved. They could also see that kickoffs improved. They also saw that place kicking is a work in progress. But you had to be there. That may be, but if our kicking talent is that bad, that makes Rocky look way worse than simply deciding to not to kick during a game. He is responsible for the ENTIRE program.....recruiting, scouting, offense, defense, special teams. He is not just a coordinator any more. IMHO, I am giving him a pass, but Loborick has said we should get used to what we have seen in 14 games. Good defense, iffy offensive execution, bizarre decisions and 7-8 wins a season. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 13:36:21 GMT -8
Would you rather have him say that our kickers suck? Will that give them more confidence? Do you think that this board's obsession with perceived failures of previous kickers will encourage kickers to come to SDSU? How has he not said that? |
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 4, 2012 13:38:05 GMT -8
I worry about the education that many of you received from SDSU. Speaking without thinking is not good. If you did not go to the scrimmage and did not go to the game, you did not see things. Those that did go, saw things that were not on TV. You can guess what is going on, but you did not see our kicking game. Be idiots if you want, but the problem is not Rocky. It may be the special teams coach, it may be a lot of things. TRUTH: we do not have a average kicking game that a coach would feel free to use. There is a reason Rocky did not kick. He is more of a man than many here....he is taking the heat for his players. Would you rather have him say that our kickers suck? Will that give them more confidence? Do you think that this board's obsession with perceived failures of previous kickers will encourage kickers to come to SDSU? Those that went to the scrimmage and game could see that punting improved. They could also see that kickoffs improved. They also saw that place kicking is a work in progress. But you had to be there. That may be, but if our kicking talent is that bad, that makes Rocky look way worse than simply deciding to not to kick during a game. He is responsible for the ENTIRE program.....recruiting, scouting, offense, defense, special teams. He is not just a coordinator any more. IMHO, I am giving him a pass, but Loborick has said we should get used to what we have seen in 14 games. Good defense, iffy offensive execution, bizarre decisions and 7-8 wins a season. How's loborick feeling about his school's last regime? You know, the one right after Rocky. Let's ask him..... |
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Post by danloc09 on Sept 4, 2012 13:40:50 GMT -8
I worry about the education that many of you received from SDSU. Speaking without thinking is not good. If you did not go to the scrimmage and did not go to the game, you did not see things. Those that did go, saw things that were not on TV. You can guess what is going on, but you did not see our kicking game. Be idiots if you want, but the problem is not Rocky. It may be the special teams coach, it may be a lot of things. TRUTH: we do not have a average kicking game that a coach would feel free to use. There is a reason Rocky did not kick. He is more of a man than many here....he is taking the heat for his players. Would you rather have him say that our kickers suck? Will that give them more confidence? Do you think that this board's obsession with perceived failures of previous kickers will encourage kickers to come to SDSU? Those that went to the scrimmage and game could see that punting improved. They could also see that kickoffs improved. They also saw that place kicking is a work in progress. But you had to be there. Repeating the same condescending "I'm a better fan than you" crap doesn't make it any less hilarious. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 13:54:20 GMT -8
ONLY ROCKY LONG KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE THAN YOU'RE A JERK.
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 14:40:09 GMT -8
ONLY ROCKY LONG KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE THAN YOU'RE A JERK. Indeed. I went to the scrimmage, all the kickers split the uprights with powerful high rising kicks on PATs. Don't try to feed me that he isn't kicking PATs because they can't make them. Don't tell me that a 9 point game vs a 7 pt game doesn't change the way a game is played. I'm glad that taking a trip to the pacific northwest is an epiphany and that other people that doesn't think a below .500 coach that has some wacky ideas that he's decided to try out in his mid 60s is the right fit must not be thinking or have received a subpar education at state. So, far those that don't think Rocky is up to the job are new at sports and/or didn't attend the pregame kick. I'll make sure I'm in the stands bright and early saturday and try to figure out this 'sports' thing to see why it's important to make it a 2 score game in the 4th quarter instead of a 1 score by not kicking 19yard PATs in the middle of the hashes. From what I've learned of 'sports' is that losing by not much is good. And refusing a free point after touchdowns is even better. I see that the basketball team shots free throws at about a 65 percent clip, wouldn't they be much better to just throw the ball really hard at the basket and go after the rebound? I mean if giving up an upper 90 percent chance at a free point is good, when you're only 65 percent it must be even better strategy. |
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 14:46:27 GMT -8
Chip Kelly: WE have a really good offense, we're going to go for 2
ROcky Long: We have a young and inexperienced offense without 13 starting seniors, we're going to go for 2
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Post by danloc09 on Sept 4, 2012 14:48:50 GMT -8
ONLY ROCKY LONG KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE THAN YOU'RE A JERK. From what I've learned of 'sports' is that losing by not much is good. And refusing a free point after touchdowns is even better. I see that the basketball team shots free throws at about a 65 percent clip, wouldn't they be much better to just throw the ball really hard at the basket and go after the rebound? I mean if giving up an upper 90 percent chance at a free point is good, when you're only 65 percent it must be even better strategy. Well I DID see a player miss a free throw before a game once. I WAS THERE. |
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 14:52:51 GMT -8
From what I've learned of 'sports' is that losing by not much is good. And refusing a free point after touchdowns is even better. I see that the basketball team shots free throws at about a 65 percent clip, wouldn't they be much better to just throw the ball really hard at the basket and go after the rebound? I mean if giving up an upper 90 percent chance at a free point is good, when you're only 65 percent it must be even better strategy. Well I DID see a player miss a free throw before a game once. I WAS THERE. You got there at tip off, I saw them run the weave half an hour before the game. You received a poor education, you are new to sports, you are part of the problem, and you are the new number 2 in Al Qaeda. QED. |
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Post by danloc09 on Sept 4, 2012 14:59:26 GMT -8
Well I DID see a player miss a free throw before a game once. I WAS THERE. You got there at tip off, I saw them run the weave half an hour before the game. You received a poor education, you are new to sports, you are part of the problem, and you are the new number 2 in Al Qaeda. QED. No it's not true. It can't be true. I've been to a road game before! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 15:08:48 GMT -8
I played basketball against Gavin Escobar once and it he dunked it off the backboard, this means something.
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 4, 2012 15:21:56 GMT -8
I see that the basketball team shots free throws at about a 65 percent clip, wouldn't they be much better to just throw the ball really hard at the basket and go after the rebound? I mean if giving up an upper 90 percent chance at a free point is good, when you're only 65 percent it must be even better strategy. This is the perfect analogy....there is a time to line one off the backboard, just not in the 1st, 2nd, & 3rd quarters! |
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Post by cc on Sept 4, 2012 15:26:53 GMT -8
How many of those 99% donate. If you dont you are part of the problem and not the solution. I donate, I think Rocky Long is a terrible coach and will drive us into his .500 ways, am I half of the solution? I'm brand new to sports, so please teach me. You are a cancer. At least you seem to be. |
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Post by cc on Sept 4, 2012 15:28:12 GMT -8
If I donate at the Champions level, yet can't make a road game, what level of fan am I? A very valuable one |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 15:30:03 GMT -8
I donate, I think Rocky Long is a terrible coach and will drive us into his .500 ways, am I half of the solution? I'm brand new to sports, so please teach me. You are a cancer. At least you seem to be. He seems more like a Virgo to me. |
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Post by cc on Sept 4, 2012 15:31:01 GMT -8
You are a cancer. At least you seem to be. He seems more like a Virgo to me. Maybe Aries? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 15:35:29 GMT -8
I see that the basketball team shots free throws at about a 65 percent clip, wouldn't they be much better to just throw the ball really hard at the basket and go after the rebound? I mean if giving up an upper 90 percent chance at a free point is good, when you're only 65 percent it must be even better strategy. This is the perfect analogy....there is a time to line one off the backboard, just not in the 1st, 2nd, & 3rd quarters! It is hardly the perfect analogy. It is fine that fans don't like RL as a the head coach. They may be right that he will not take SDSU to the next level (whatever that means) but this loss was really not about kicking or not... the loss was about the turnovers and UW making more plays than the Aztecs did. Honestly, as I said elsewhere, if the Aztec had made one (or both) of the 2 - point conversions they still would have lost. If they had kicked both PATs or missed both or one, they still would have lost. As a matter of fact, had they done any of the above, they still would have gone for it on 4th and 9 (and not try for the FG) and still would have lost. Wouldn't it be better to stop arguing about the kick or not kick... everyone will have a whole season to point out all the bad things that RL does. |
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 17:04:53 GMT -8
I donate, I think Rocky Long is a terrible coach and will drive us into his .500 ways, am I half of the solution? I'm brand new to sports, so please teach me. You are a cancer. At least you seem to be. Rocky is the cancer, I am just the oncologist...hopefully the HMO will approve my proposed treatment plan. |
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Post by monty on Sept 4, 2012 17:06:25 GMT -8
This is the perfect analogy....there is a time to line one off the backboard, just not in the 1st, 2nd, & 3rd quarters! It is hardly the perfect analogy. It is fine that fans don't like RL as a the head coach. They may be right that he will not take SDSU to the next level (whatever that means) but this loss was really not about kicking or not... the loss was about the turnovers and UW making more plays than the Aztecs did. Honestly, as I said elsewhere, if the Aztec had made one (or both) of the 2 - point conversions they still would have lost. If they had kicked both PATs or missed both or one, they still would have lost. As a matter of fact, had they done any of the above, they still would have gone for it on 4th and 9 (and not try for the FG) and still would have lost. Wouldn't it be better to stop arguing about the kick or not kick... everyone will have a whole season to point out all the bad things that RL does. Let's say fish decides to do the line drive free throw plan the last minute of the game, they miss 2 front ends of the 1:1s and fail to get the rebounds, now they are down 4 in the final 30 seconds instead of 2, you are going to tell me that the strategy of the game didn't just change? |
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