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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 10:22:46 GMT -8
Fact: no sports team has ever won a game without Jamaal Franklin. The New York Yankees never would have won 27 World Series without Jamaal. Jamaal is MVP of the USWNT's olympic run. Steve Fisher never would have been hired at SDSU if Jamaal didn't give the admin his ok. If you disagree you don't know basketball [glow=red,2,300]lol[/glow]Little known fact: The Mars Rover was actually attached to Jamaal's back as he jumped to Mars. It was only removed once he got to Mars and realized they had Shnacks. And he was like, f x x x that, no Shnacks and jumped back to Earth.
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Aug 7, 2012 10:25:11 GMT -8
Fact: no sports team has ever won a game without Jamaal Franklin. The New York Yankees never would have won 27 World Series without Jamaal. Jamaal is MVP of the USWNT's olympic run. Steve Fisher never would have been hired at SDSU if Jamaal didn't give the admin his ok. If you disagree you don't know basketball [glow=red,2,300]lol[/glow]Little known fact: The Mars Rover was actually attached to Jamaal's back as he jumped to Mars. It was only removed once he got to Mars and realized they had Shnacks. And he was like, f x x x that, no Shnacks and jumped back to Earth. These are things BBA actually believes.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 7, 2012 10:26:06 GMT -8
You're reaching. Besides, Jamaal's team wouldn't have had a shot at all if Jamaal didn't get his forty three. He carried them, but you decided to call him out for missing the last shot. Don't forget, he's the type of guy that has the balls to take the last shot and accept the praise, or critcism, whatever it may be. I don't know about you, but I LOVE having a guy like that on our team who has the balls to take the initiative. Again, my latest post was calling out someone's claims and accuracy, which you didn't address. My posts are not about JF; they're about people that make bogus claims. I'm not calling him out for missing the last shot; I like a guy who has confidence in himself to come through when WE need it. My point was that BBA was off by "only" 1 point, which is the same margin of error which decides the outcomes of games. We care then, right? Why not when a guy makes a claim that is proven to be false? Sure, maybe he carried his team in this latest game, but who knows - maybe if someone else had taken the shot, maybe they wouldv'e made it. We don't know. It's a double-edged sword. If JF makes the shot, we say "see? Told you he could do it - all he does is win." If he misses it, we say, "oh well, he's done so many other things so well, he was bound to miss a shot." If a teammate of his misses the shot, we say "why didn't JF take that last shot?" It's not fair for everyone else on his team. It's tremendously short-sighted of us as fans to know the outcome before it happens or to think that just because a guy scores 43, he's the best on earth. I don't give a rat's ass if he made the shot or missed it....this was not a SDSU bball game so that point is moot. Bulls**t. Go check out your post. So which is it?(as you like to say quite often to BBA) Do you give a rats ass or not? You even decided to say "more importantly, he missed the last shot." So hell yes you called him called Jamaal out on it. Get real.
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Post by uncledougy on Aug 7, 2012 13:00:38 GMT -8
For kicks I took a look at the stats for JF last year compared to Drew league and think we can say 25ppg next year is within reach although unlikely. Last year JF averaged 12.5 shots pergame connecting on roughly 45% of them. Most of the 100 shooters in the NCAA last year were around 60%. During the Drew League, stats are not a true reflection but JF averaged 23 shots a game. Roughly double. So if JF gets his shooting percentage close to 60, he could average 25 with taking an average of 12 shots a game. 12 is still on the high side (the most last year was 14 a game from McDermott). Either way, 25 is attainable, but would be unlikely, but if JF can take better shots and make 60%, it's possible. SDSU Stats: espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/21/san-diego-state-aztecsNCAA Stats: espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalPct
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Post by yougotslaughtered on Aug 7, 2012 13:17:26 GMT -8
I dont see what the big deal is with BBA...seems to me the guy knows his basketball, and just happens to REALLY REALLY like Jamaal Franklin. Why does that bother some of you so much? Maybe I dont know something some of you do, but I'd definitely rather have a guy make outlandish statements for the positive about one of our players than rag on a guy. He supports Aztec basketball, and a lot of the stuff he says is right on the money. I think thats pretty cool.
On top of that, I totally think this is coming a pseudo LeBron style argument. Jamaal scores more than 40 in a summer league game, but we still find someway to knock him for it? Thats pretty dumb. Im seriously stoked as $#!+ that we have a player of his caliber...among all the other talent on our roster. Its an exciting thing to have our own player dominate any paralleled competition, summer league or not.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Aug 7, 2012 13:29:05 GMT -8
I dont see what the big deal is with BBA...seems to me the guy knows his basketball, and just happens to REALLY REALLY like Jamaal Franklin. Why does that bother some of you so much? Maybe I dont know something some of you do, but I'd definitely rather have a guy make outlandish statements for the positive about one of our players than rag on a guy. He supports Aztec basketball, and a lot of the stuff he says is right on the money. I think thats pretty cool. On top of that, I totally think this is coming a pseudo LeBron style argument. Jamaal scores more than 40 in a summer league game, but we still find someway to knock him for it? Thats pretty dumb. Im seriously stoked as $#!+ that we have a player of his caliber...among all the other talent on our roster. Its an exciting thing to have our own player dominate any paralleled competition, summer league or not. LOL, you're not fooling anyone, BBA. Just an FYI, there are some giveaways to your writing style that basically confirm this is you. And I am not talking about your "man crush" on Jamaal.
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Post by The Honey Badger on Aug 7, 2012 13:48:46 GMT -8
There is a lot of truth from bba analysis, just give it a rest, SDSU does have a lot of good players on the the team but Jamaal is the only player that gives the team an edge, they go from good/very good team without him to a possible elite team with him.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 7, 2012 13:55:20 GMT -8
I dont see what the big deal is with BBA...seems to me the guy knows his basketball, and just happens to REALLY REALLY like Jamaal Franklin. Why does that bother some of you so much? Maybe I dont know something some of you do, but I'd definitely rather have a guy make outlandish statements for the positive about one of our players than rag on a guy. He supports Aztec basketball, and a lot of the stuff he says is right on the money. I think thats pretty cool. On top of that, I totally think this is coming a pseudo LeBron style argument. Jamaal scores more than 40 in a summer league game, but we still find someway to knock him for it? Thats pretty dumb. Im seriously stoked as $#!+ that we have a player of his caliber...among all the other talent on our roster. Its an exciting thing to have our own player dominate any paralleled competition, summer league or not. LOL, you're not fooling anyone, BBA. Just an FYI, there are some giveaways to your writing style that basically confirm this is you. And I am not talking about your "man crush" on Jamaal. Well if i'm myself and I have 5 stars, and he's also me...and he has 2 stars...does that mean I have 7 stars.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 13:56:35 GMT -8
LOL, you're not fooling anyone, BBA. Just an FYI, there are some giveaways to your writing style that basically confirm this is you. And I am not talking about your "man crush" on Jamaal. Well if i'm myself and I have 5 stars, and he's also me...and he has 2 stars...does that mean I have 7 stars. Naw, I think you'd use an average, 3.5 stars.
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 7, 2012 14:04:33 GMT -8
For kicks I took a look at the stats for JF last year compared to Drew league and think we can say 25ppg next year is within reach although unlikely. Last year JF averaged 12.5 shots pergame connecting on roughly 45% of them. Most of the 100 shooters in the NCAA last year were around 60%. During the Drew League, stats are not a true reflection but JF averaged 23 shots a game. Roughly double. So if JF gets his shooting percentage close to 60, he could average 25 with taking an average of 12 shots a game. 12 is still on the high side (the most last year was 14 a game from McDermott). Either way, 25 is attainable, but would be unlikely, but if JF can take better shots and make 60%, it's possible. SDSU Stats: espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/21/san-diego-state-aztecsNCAA Stats: espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalPctThose FG% leaders are almost all bigs though. It's rare for a wing to shoot 60%.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 7, 2012 14:18:27 GMT -8
Jamaal will average 15+ shots per game. Yes, he will lead the nation in shot attempts. He'll shoot around 50% from the field. The catylst will be his 3 pt and FT%. If he shoots 35% from 3 and atlest 85% from the line...IT'S OVER!!
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 7, 2012 14:21:38 GMT -8
Jamaal will average 15+ shots per game. Yes, he will lead the nation in shot attempts. He'll shoot around 50% from the field. The catylst will be his 3 pt and FT%. If he shoots 35% from 3 and atlest 85% from the line...IT'S OVER!! I could see this. I'd like to see his usage stay around the same as last year, while increasing assist rate and field goal %, and lowering turnover %.
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 7, 2012 14:24:30 GMT -8
I also think that him having more talent around him will work both ways. Ya maybe the ball will be spread around more, but I also think Jamaal will get more easy looks working off ball (and hopefully in transition.)
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Post by aztecsfuturefinal4 on Aug 7, 2012 15:19:40 GMT -8
cue weezy "sky's the limit"
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 7, 2012 16:32:04 GMT -8
I also think that him having more talent around him will work both ways. Ya maybe the ball will be spread around more, but I also think Jamaal will get more easy looks working off ball (and hopefully in transition.) We have more talented finishers, but we haven't added more talented creators. There is a huge difference. Polee and O'brien won't be waving off Jamaal and Chase to go one on one any time soon. Chase and Jamaal will shoot the bulk of the shots just like last year. The difference is, when the defense tries to take their looks away, they'll get easy assist. Jamaal will have a handful of double digit assist games. The problem last year was there was nobody down low to finish consistently. Chase , Rahon and X went through dry spells where they couldn't throw a rock in the ocean....that cuts down on assist #s too. This year the team can actually aspire to play inside out as opposed to all action coming from perimeter jump shots.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 7, 2012 16:38:59 GMT -8
I also think that him having more talent around him will work both ways. Ya maybe the ball will be spread around more, but I also think Jamaal will get more easy looks working off ball (and hopefully in transition.) We have more talented finishers, but we haven't added more talented creators. There is a huge difference. Polee and O'brien won't be waving off Jamaal and Chase to go one on one any time soon. Chase and Jamaal will shoot the bulk of the shots just like last year. The difference is, when the defense tries to take their looks away, they'll get easy assist. Jamaal will have a handful of double digit assist games. The problem last year was there was nobody down low to finish consistently. Chase , Rahon and X went through dry spells where they couldn't throw a rock in the ocean....that cuts down on assist #s too. This year the team can actually aspire to play inside out as opposed to all action coming from perimeter jump shots. And because we have better finishers down low that teams will have to respect, Jamaal will have more opportunities to knock down three's, better looks. That's how Jamaal will get his average in the 20's, as well as all the FT opportunities he's going to create for himself. It's going to be great. Jamaal will get his AVG. Chase will get his, etc..., and at the same time the TEAM will prosper. He's that type of player.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 7, 2012 17:09:41 GMT -8
We have more talented finishers, but we haven't added more talented creators. There is a huge difference. Polee and O'brien won't be waving off Jamaal and Chase to go one on one any time soon. Chase and Jamaal will shoot the bulk of the shots just like last year. The difference is, when the defense tries to take their looks away, they'll get easy assist. Jamaal will have a handful of double digit assist games. The problem last year was there was nobody down low to finish consistently. Chase , Rahon and X went through dry spells where they couldn't throw a rock in the ocean....that cuts down on assist #s too. This year the team can actually aspire to play inside out as opposed to all action coming from perimeter jump shots. And because we have better finishers down low that teams will have to respect, Jamaal will have more opportunities to knock down three's, better looks. That's how Jamaal will get his average in the 20's, as well as all the FT opportunities he's going to create for himself. It's going to be great. Jamaal will get his AVG. Chase will get his, etc..., and at the same time the TEAM will prosper. He's that type of player. I agree. We have better bigs, but we don't have any bigs that can consistently score in the post with their backs to the basket. Our bigs will be bouncy, long, athletic guys who run the floor, crash the offensive glass, and find opportunities by out hustling the opponent.
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 7, 2012 18:30:21 GMT -8
I also think that him having more talent around him will work both ways. Ya maybe the ball will be spread around more, but I also think Jamaal will get more easy looks working off ball (and hopefully in transition.) We have more talented finishers, but we haven't added more talented creators. There is a huge difference. Polee and O'brien won't be waving off Jamaal and Chase to go one on one any time soon. Chase and Jamaal will shoot the bulk of the shots just like last year. The difference is, when the defense tries to take their looks away, they'll get easy assist. Jamaal will have a handful of double digit assist games. The problem last year was there was nobody down low to finish consistently. Chase , Rahon and X went through dry spells where they couldn't throw a rock in the ocean....that cuts down on assist #s too. This year the team can actually aspire to play inside out as opposed to all action coming from perimeter jump shots. Eh, I think shep is a nice creator, but agree with the rest
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Post by northcountymike on Aug 7, 2012 18:44:44 GMT -8
Again, my latest post was calling out someone's claims and accuracy, which you didn't address. My posts are not about JF; they're about people that make bogus claims. I'm not calling him out for missing the last shot; I like a guy who has confidence in himself to come through when WE need it. My point was that BBA was off by "only" 1 point, which is the same margin of error which decides the outcomes of games. We care then, right? Why not when a guy makes a claim that is proven to be false? Sure, maybe he carried his team in this latest game, but who knows - maybe if someone else had taken the shot, maybe they wouldv'e made it. We don't know. It's a double-edged sword. If JF makes the shot, we say "see? Told you he could do it - all he does is win." If he misses it, we say, "oh well, he's done so many other things so well, he was bound to miss a shot." If a teammate of his misses the shot, we say "why didn't JF take that last shot?" It's not fair for everyone else on his team. It's tremendously short-sighted of us as fans to know the outcome before it happens or to think that just because a guy scores 43, he's the best on earth. I don't give a rat's ass if he made the shot or missed it....this was not a SDSU bball game so that point is moot. Bulls**t. Go check out your post. So which is it?(as you like to say quite often to BBA) Do you give a rats ass or not? You even decided to say "more importantly, he missed the last shot." So hell yes you called him called Jamaal out on it. Get real. I think you might be misunderstanding me here. The point is that his team lost - that is more important. He could've scored 100 but his team lost. That should be all that matters, plain and simple. If anything, I called out BBA or anyone else who consistently praises him for scoring a ton of points and nothing else beyond that. I give a rat's ass if it's an Aztec game, but a Drew League game with stupid ass team names, no defense, and video highlights with lame music? Please. And yeah, I guess that means I'm ragging on the Drew League now. I do agree with one of BBA's assumption though: JF may, in fact, lead the nation in shot attempts per game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 19:31:46 GMT -8
Bulls**t. Go check out your post. So which is it?(as you like to say quite often to BBA) Do you give a rats ass or not? You even decided to say "more importantly, he missed the last shot." So hell yes you called him called Jamaal out on it. Get real. I think you might be misunderstanding me here. The point is that his team lost - that is more important. He could've scored 100 but his team lost. That should be all that matters, plain and simple. If anything, I called out BBA or anyone else who consistently praises him for scoring a ton of points and nothing else beyond that. I give a rat's ass if it's an Aztec game, but a Drew League game with stupid ass team names, no defense, and video highlights with lame music? Please. And yeah, I guess that means I'm ragging on the Drew League now. I do agree with one of BBA's assumption though: JF may, in fact, lead the nation in shot attempts per game. Your entire point is based upon the premise that all Jamaal cares about is scoring. Like his improvement in the past year wasn't one of(if not the main) reason this team had success in what was considered a rebuilding year.
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