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Post by missiontrails on Aug 6, 2012 13:24:58 GMT -8
Of course you were Jamaal. All kidding aside, makes me that much more anxious for the season to start. But have no illusions......NCAA D1 defenses (much) > Drew League defenses. But those 3's looked sweet. I'd love to see more of those this season if he's hitting them.
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Post by aztectone on Aug 6, 2012 13:46:13 GMT -8
good god he was toying with them ^^^ This Sadly, if this continues this year might be the last for Jamaal in an Aztec uniform. If Jamal goes to the NBA, that means he did very very well in the NCAA tourney. I think we would all take that. Also... Jamaals goal should be, to go to the line 10 times a game. He has a knack to get to the rim and needs to really take advantage of that.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 6, 2012 13:57:35 GMT -8
^^^ This Sadly, if this continues this year might be the last for Jamaal in an Aztec uniform. If Jamal goes to the NBA, that means he did very very well in the NCAA tourney. I think we would all take that. Also... Jamaals goal should be, to go to the line 10 times a game. He has a knack to get to the rim and needs to really take advantage of that. Agreed I wish he could teach Tapley how to draw fouls.
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Post by northcountymike on Aug 6, 2012 14:01:17 GMT -8
Jamaal destroyed the Drew this year. He made yesterday look like a video game. It hilarious how folks think he's all of a sudden gonna put an SDSU jersey on and take his foot off the gas. The guy is going to lead the nation in scoring. He'll at least be in the top 3. Last years nation leading scorer averaged 25 ppg. I can't see how College teams are going to be able to stop Jamaal from getting 25 a night, I just don't...And I definetly don't see Jamaal stopping himself. The Aztecs are going to be a much higher scoring, uptempo team this year. Deshawn Stephens will be our 5 man and he runs the floor like a damn deer! Dwayne Polee running the wing, Chase hitting jumpers, JJ O'brien and X doing what they do. I smell a final 4. No bull $#!+. BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 6, 2012 14:13:02 GMT -8
He made yesterday look like a video game. It hilarious how folks think he's all of a sudden gonna put an SDSU jersey on and take his foot off the gas. The guy is going to lead the nation in scoring. He'll at least be in the top 3. Last years nation leading scorer averaged 25 ppg. I can't see how College teams are going to be able to stop Jamaal from getting 25 a night, I just don't...And I definetly don't see Jamaal stopping himself. The Aztecs are going to be a much higher scoring, uptempo team this year. Deshawn Stephens will be our 5 man and he runs the floor like a damn deer! Dwayne Polee running the wing, Chase hitting jumpers, JJ O'brien and X doing what they do. I smell a final 4. No bull $#!+. BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. I won't debate Jamaal's importance to winning anymore. His game speaks for itself. Ask yourself this: Do you honestly feel like Jamaal cares more about points than he does winning? If so, I understand your comments. If not, stop making comments like that. lol
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Post by romanaztec on Aug 6, 2012 14:18:38 GMT -8
Just Wow. Was the white line nba Range? couldn't tell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 14:18:41 GMT -8
He made yesterday look like a video game. It hilarious how folks think he's all of a sudden gonna put an SDSU jersey on and take his foot off the gas. The guy is going to lead the nation in scoring. He'll at least be in the top 3. Last years nation leading scorer averaged 25 ppg. I can't see how College teams are going to be able to stop Jamaal from getting 25 a night, I just don't...And I definetly don't see Jamaal stopping himself. The Aztecs are going to be a much higher scoring, uptempo team this year. Deshawn Stephens will be our 5 man and he runs the floor like a damn deer! Dwayne Polee running the wing, Chase hitting jumpers, JJ O'brien and X doing what they do. I smell a final 4. No bull $#!+. BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. This is nonsense.
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Post by northcountymike on Aug 6, 2012 18:44:52 GMT -8
BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. I won't debate Jamaal's importance to winning anymore. His game speaks for itself. Ask yourself this: Do you honestly feel like Jamaal cares more about points than he does winning? If so, I understand your comments. If not, stop making comments like that. lol I need to stop making comments "like that?" I've never questioned his desire to win...I've only questioned your desire to glorify him at every turn. You care more about points and where JF ends up in the draft rather than how this TEAM does. Spare me the crap about "how Jamaal goes, so goes the team." We have a lineup that is sweet-sixteen and up caliber without him. You need to ask yourself this: "do I care more about how Jamaal and his point total than the team as a whole?" I think you do. Also, why don't you ever address the topics I bring up or ask? I just called you out for making an inaccurate claim (the nation's leader last year scoring 25 pts. per game). I also called you out on saying that JF will lead the nation in scoring which you later downgraded to "top 3." Do you ever respond when someone calls you on your BS? If you can't, you need to stop talking out of your ass.
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 6, 2012 19:01:50 GMT -8
That's true, and honestly I have less of a problem with those shots than most. I guess one difference between him and Kobe(among many) is that as a Lakers fan I was able to live with Kobe's mistakes as we had time for him to improve. Selfishly speaking as an SDSU fan I want Jamaal to improve his efficiency at a higher rate. I have no problem with a heat check three, but a pull up three with a man in your face shouldn't be part of your arsenal as a player. With Jamaal's ability at the line, he's damn near unstoppable at times driving to the basket, that's what I want to see the majority of the time. The worst thing about that pull up 3 is he makes it sometime... I think its a way to get some quick point without using a lot of energy. When a guy a backing off, it's much harder for Jamaal NOT to take that shot than it is for him to take it. Agree with this 100%
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 6, 2012 19:03:45 GMT -8
He made yesterday look like a video game. It hilarious how folks think he's all of a sudden gonna put an SDSU jersey on and take his foot off the gas. The guy is going to lead the nation in scoring. He'll at least be in the top 3. Last years nation leading scorer averaged 25 ppg. I can't see how College teams are going to be able to stop Jamaal from getting 25 a night, I just don't...And I definetly don't see Jamaal stopping himself. The Aztecs are going to be a much higher scoring, uptempo team this year. Deshawn Stephens will be our 5 man and he runs the floor like a damn deer! Dwayne Polee running the wing, Chase hitting jumpers, JJ O'brien and X doing what they do. I smell a final 4. No bull $#!+. BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. And if he doesn't score 43 there is no chance to make a game winner. This feels like a LeBron debate, so Jamaal must be doing something right.
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Post by uncledougy on Aug 6, 2012 19:10:13 GMT -8
BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. And if he doesn't score 43 there is no chance to make a game winner. This feels like a LeBron debate, so Jamaal must be doing something right. Most good players can score 43 pts if they take the most shots. What we don't see from the stats provided was the shooting percentage....I am curious to see how many shots were taken and by whom....
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 6, 2012 19:12:20 GMT -8
And if he doesn't score 43 there is no chance to make a game winner. This feels like a LeBron debate, so Jamaal must be doing something right. Most good players can score 43 pts if they take the most shots. What we don't see from the stats provided was the shooting percentage....I am curious to see how many shots were taken and by whom.... True, that's why stuff like this should just be enjoyed, and not debated endlessly.
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Post by dunksalot on Aug 6, 2012 19:14:49 GMT -8
I was at the game. Jamaal missed the last second shot that would have won the Game. These were grown men he was playing against. Everybody on the opposing team gets paid to play basketball, most notibly, Taj Gibson of the Chicago Bulls and Marcus Williams, former 1st Rd pick of the Memphis Grizzlies, and Bobby Brown who spent time with Sacramento Kings, and New Orleans Hornets. Jamaal played out of his mind. The video speaks for itself. These highlights don't show Deshawn's performance, but he was tough as nails against much bigger guys. Deshawn is noticably more athletic than Taj Gibson and he has a bigger motor to go with it. Sky's the limit for Deshawn. He will be our best big this year hands down. Winston didn't play. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1a4JpmZUk&feature=shareThanks for posting. The defenses weren't playing hard, but it was playoffs and against NBA caliber players. I like seeing how hard JF plays - lots of scrappiness and physical play which is the most important part of those clips. By the way that off-the-glass dunk LeBron style is sooooo sweet.
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Post by Aztec For Life on Aug 6, 2012 20:18:45 GMT -8
Jamaal looks amazing. I think he can get his jersey retired after the year he will have and we are lucky to have him. Can't wait to see his first team all American year!!!! This guy is the sweetest playmaker and competitor we have ever had.
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Post by ELF on Aug 6, 2012 20:29:15 GMT -8
He made yesterday look like a video game. It hilarious how folks think he's all of a sudden gonna put an SDSU jersey on and take his foot off the gas. The guy is going to lead the nation in scoring. He'll at least be in the top 3. Last years nation leading scorer averaged 25 ppg. I can't see how College teams are going to be able to stop Jamaal from getting 25 a night, I just don't...And I definetly don't see Jamaal stopping himself. The Aztecs are going to be a much higher scoring, uptempo team this year. Deshawn Stephens will be our 5 man and he runs the floor like a damn deer! Dwayne Polee running the wing, Chase hitting jumpers, JJ O'brien and X doing what they do. I smell a final 4. No bull $#!+. BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. YEAH, BBA!!! YOU WERE 1.2 POINTS OFF, EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!! AND HOW DARE THEY NOT SHOW PASSING ON A HIGHLIGHT REEL!!! /sarcasm
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2012 21:13:51 GMT -8
BBA, last year's D-1 "nation-leading scorer" averaged 26.2 per game (Reggie Hamilton of Oakland), not 25. So which one is it? Is Jamaal going to lead the nation in scoring or will he be in the top 3? Also, I know how college teams will stop him from scoring 25 per night: he'll actually play good teams that have the talent to stop him. Sure he scored 24 against UNLV the first time around, but he "only" scored 11 vs. Baylor, 8 vs. Arizona, and 9 vs. Cal. Is it a minutes thing? Who knows, but making bold statements, again, is going to draw some ire. Funny thing is that, sure that video is great, but I think I saw him make just one pass. More importantly, he missed the game-winning shot. If he had made that, his team would have won, and it would have been much better than dropping 43 in a Summer league game. His team would've won the championship, right? But they didn't. I guess it doesn't matter though because he scored 43 points. YEAH, BBA!!! YOU WERE 1.2 POINTS OFF, EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!! AND HOW DARE THEY NOT SHOW PASSING ON A HIGHLIGHT REEL!!! /sarcasm Exactly what I was thinking.
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Post by northcountymike on Aug 6, 2012 21:40:47 GMT -8
YEAH, BBA!!! YOU WERE 1.2 POINTS OFF, EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!! AND HOW DARE THEY NOT SHOW PASSING ON A HIGHLIGHT REEL!!! /sarcasm Exactly what I was thinking. My bad, I guess accuracy doesn't count anymore. Do you seriously accept mediocrity? How bad is it that no one checks anymore? We just take whatever anyone says as the gospel. Sure he was 1.2 points off, but that's a ton in the grand scheme of things. Just 1 point wins or loses a game - do we not care about that? One determines if we win the National Championship, the other makes us forgettable. Maybe Jamaal's Drew League team lost by only 1 point. You're right, I guess 1 point doesn't matter. You'd be amazed if you did a little research and came to your own conclusions rather than assuming someone else's lazy and unfounded conclusions. If someone makes a bogus claim or is inaccurate, I might call them on it, that's all. Should be no big deal unless you accept mediocrity and laziness.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2012 21:55:06 GMT -8
Exactly what I was thinking. My bad, I guess accuracy doesn't count anymore. Do you seriously accept mediocrity? How bad is it that no one checks anymore? We just take whatever anyone says as the gospel. Sure he was 1.2 points off, but that's a ton in the grand scheme of things. Just 1 point wins or loses a game - do we not care about that? One determines if we win the National Championship, the other makes us forgettable. Maybe Jamaal's Drew League team lost by only 1 point. You're right, I guess 1 point doesn't matter. You'd be amazed if you did a little research and came to your own conclusions rather than assuming someone else's lazy and unfounded conclusions. If someone makes a bogus claim or is inaccurate, I might call them on it, that's all. Should be no big deal unless you accept mediocrity and laziness. You're reaching. Besides, Jamaal's team wouldn't have had a shot at all if Jamaal didn't get his forty three. He carried them, but you decided to call him out for missing the last shot. Don't forget, he's the type of guy that has the balls to take the last shot and accept the praise, or critcism, whatever it may be. I don't know about you, but I LOVE having a guy like that on our team who has the balls to take the initiative.
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Post by northcountymike on Aug 6, 2012 22:15:08 GMT -8
My bad, I guess accuracy doesn't count anymore. Do you seriously accept mediocrity? How bad is it that no one checks anymore? We just take whatever anyone says as the gospel. Sure he was 1.2 points off, but that's a ton in the grand scheme of things. Just 1 point wins or loses a game - do we not care about that? One determines if we win the National Championship, the other makes us forgettable. Maybe Jamaal's Drew League team lost by only 1 point. You're right, I guess 1 point doesn't matter. You'd be amazed if you did a little research and came to your own conclusions rather than assuming someone else's lazy and unfounded conclusions. If someone makes a bogus claim or is inaccurate, I might call them on it, that's all. Should be no big deal unless you accept mediocrity and laziness. You're reaching. Besides, Jamaal's team wouldn't have had a shot at all if Jamaal didn't get his forty three. He carried them, but you decided to call him out for missing the last shot. Don't forget, he's the type of guy that has the balls to take the last shot and accept the praise, or critcism, whatever it may be. I don't know about you, but I LOVE having a guy like that on our team who has the balls to take the initiative. Again, my latest post was calling out someone's claims and accuracy, which you didn't address. My posts are not about JF; they're about people that make bogus claims. I'm not calling him out for missing the last shot; I like a guy who has confidence in himself to come through when WE need it. My point was that BBA was off by "only" 1 point, which is the same margin of error which decides the outcomes of games. We care then, right? Why not when a guy makes a claim that is proven to be false? Sure, maybe he carried his team in this latest game, but who knows - maybe if someone else had taken the shot, maybe they wouldv'e made it. We don't know. It's a double-edged sword. If JF makes the shot, we say "see? Told you he could do it - all he does is win." If he misses it, we say, "oh well, he's done so many other things so well, he was bound to miss a shot." If a teammate of his misses the shot, we say "why didn't JF take that last shot?" It's not fair for everyone else on his team. It's tremendously short-sighted of us as fans to know the outcome before it happens or to think that just because a guy scores 43, he's the best on earth. I don't give a rat's ass if he made the shot or missed it....this was not a SDSU bball game so that point is moot.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 6, 2012 22:26:29 GMT -8
You're reaching. Besides, Jamaal's team wouldn't have had a shot at all if Jamaal didn't get his forty three. He carried them, but you decided to call him out for missing the last shot. Don't forget, he's the type of guy that has the balls to take the last shot and accept the praise, or critcism, whatever it may be. I don't know about you, but I LOVE having a guy like that on our team who has the balls to take the initiative. Again, my latest post was calling out someone's claims and accuracy, which you didn't address. My posts are not about JF; they're about people that make bogus claims. I'm not calling him out for missing the last shot; I like a guy who has confidence in himself to come through when WE need it. My point was that BBA was off by "only" 1 point, which is the same margin of error which decides the outcomes of games. We care then, right? Why not when a guy makes a claim that is proven to be false? Sure, maybe he carried his team in this latest game, but who knows - maybe if someone else had taken the shot, maybe they wouldv'e made it. We don't know. It's a double-edged sword. If JF makes the shot, we say "see? Told you he could do it - all he does is win." If he misses it, we say, "oh well, he's done so many other things so well, he was bound to miss a shot." If a teammate of his misses the shot, we say "why didn't JF take that last shot?" It's not fair for everyone else on his team. It's tremendously short-sighted of us as fans to know the outcome before it happens or to think that just because a guy scores 43, he's the best on earth. I don't give a rat's ass if he made the shot or missed it....this was not a SDSU bball game so that point is moot. Where does all the "best on earth" talk come from. Nobody ever says that. The extreamism is ridiculous. I make simple conceivable statements like, "Jamaal will average 25+ PPG" or "Jamaal will be a lottery pick". Those things are well within the realm of possiblity. And what is this 1 point thing? I'm lost...And to answer your question, Jamaal shouldn't have been the guy taking the last shot. He was too hot, there was no way the other team was going to let him get a good look. They should have ran the play for someone else....but from the flow of the game, you could tell Jamaal would be the guy to take that shot.
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