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Post by AzTex on Nov 6, 2024 22:36:30 GMT -8
here's a nightmare thought for the rest of the season: how much money will Byrd be getting from duke or _______________________________9fill in the blank). next season? enjoy his play while we can.   You're killing me. If I could only say you were wrong. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Nov 6, 2024 22:45:52 GMT -8
It's interesting how deep Dutch went with the bench. I see playing time tightening up real soon.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 6, 2024 22:47:35 GMT -8
Lol. I'm not offended. That dude hit another 3 in us. Lazy D on that guy. How many more times are we going to fall asleep on that guy?! Dutcher is probably mumbling to himself: find the shooter, mark the shooter. Ugh! |
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Post by docmm on Nov 6, 2024 22:59:52 GMT -8
I know it's waaaay too early to worry about metrics but KenPom had us @ #50 and favored by 12 over UCSD. We win by five and drop to #57.
Creighton was @ #10 and favored by 28 at home and "only" won by 13 and dropped to #13.
Does anybody know if there's a limit as to how many points you can win by over what you're favored and it no longer makes a difference? Like you're favored by 15 and you win by 40. At what point does it no longer help your metrics?
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Post by fisherville on Nov 7, 2024 0:25:03 GMT -8
I know it's waaaay too early to worry about metrics but KenPom had us @ #50 and favored by 12 over UCSD. We win by five and drop to #57. Creighton was @ #10 and favored by 28 at home and "only" won by 13 and dropped to #13. Does anybody know if there's a limit as to how many points you can win by over what you're favored and it no longer makes a difference? Like you're favored by 15 and you win by 40. At what point does it no longer help your metrics? There is no limit in either direction. One thing to keep in mind is this game will be weighted much less as season goes along and there is more data. The actual drop from this game will effectively be less than it is right now |
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 7, 2024 6:31:47 GMT -8
Dutcher is probably mumbling to himself: find the shooter, mark the shooter. Ugh! He wasn't mumbling, he was yelling. I could hear him ten rows up. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 7, 2024 6:36:20 GMT -8
Yeah, remember what a headache that was last year? Butler and Trammel were turnover machines. Offensively, our gaurds are much better than last year. it was good that Parrish left. They're also a lot shorter than Parrish. Parrish is a legit 6'5"/6'6". McKinney and Davis are lucky if they crack 5'10" Boyd might be 5'11". |
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 7, 2024 6:43:38 GMT -8
Boyd looks really smooth to me....Poised in control....I like his game... .No fear of he and Davis breaking the press..... Gonna be lots of growing pains early.... Collegiate landscape is soooo different now (because of NIL) Our team should be fun to follow..... Yeah, remember what a headache that was last year? Butler and Trammel were turnover machines. No I don't remember. Butler averaged 1.4 TOs per game last year, and Trammel averaged 1.2. Boyd had 4 turnovers last night in 11 minutes. He needs to clean that up. |
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Post by sdsu1776 on Nov 7, 2024 7:09:55 GMT -8
Yeah, remember what a headache that was last year? Butler and Trammel were turnover machines. No I don't remember. Butler averaged 1.4 TOs per game last year, and Trammel averaged 1.2. Boyd had 4 turnovers last night in 11 minutes. He needs to clean that up. Boyd does need to clean that up. However, his playmaking skills and shooting are superior to Butler’s. However, he won’t match Butler’s D and mid-range game. But, I was impressed with Boyd’s leadership on the court. x.com/JonRothstein/status/1854387591228862848 |
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Post by jp92grad on Nov 7, 2024 7:13:12 GMT -8
Offensively, our gaurds are much better than last year. it was good that Parrish left. They're also a lot shorter than Parrish. Parrish is a legit 6'5"/6'6". McKinney and Davis are lucky if they crack 5'10" Boyd might be 5'11". SDSU did not look that big last night, there are more then a couple players that look to have stretched those numbers on the roster (more then normal) |
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Post by jp92grad on Nov 7, 2024 7:16:21 GMT -8
No I don't remember. Butler averaged 1.4 TOs per game last year, and Trammel averaged 1.2. Boyd had 4 turnovers last night in 11 minutes. He needs to clean that up. Boyd does need to clean that up. However, his playmaking skills and shooting are superior to Butler’s. However, he won’t match Butler’s D and mid-range game. But, I was impressed with Boyd’s leadership on the court. x.com/JonRothstein/status/1854387591228862848 looks like a true team leader play after play, where Butler would disappear for long periods of time but when he was on he was on! |
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Post by bobcooper84 on Nov 7, 2024 7:26:54 GMT -8
here's a nightmare thought for the rest of the season: how much money will Byrd be getting from duke or _______________________________9fill in the blank). next season? enjoy his play while we can. It's no longer a nightmare.....It's reality..... I place Boyd on the list as well....EVERY program is looking for a veteran " quarterback " to run the team and be the coach on the floor.... IMO, Boyd and Byrd can fill in the numbers on the check next year.... |
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Post by sdsu1776 on Nov 7, 2024 7:27:47 GMT -8
Boyd does need to clean that up. However, his playmaking skills and shooting are superior to Butler’s. However, he won’t match Butler’s D and mid-range game. But, I was impressed with Boyd’s leadership on the court. x.com/JonRothstein/status/1854387591228862848 looks like a true team leader play after play, where Butler would disappear for long periods of time but when he was on he was on! Boyd made plays down the stretch. He made a sweet crossover to get to the rim to score. That play had me jump off the couch! He also had a nice dime for a dunk. Dude gots true play making skills. And a 3 point shot. |
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Post by sdsuballer on Nov 7, 2024 8:15:48 GMT -8
Boyd looks like a true team leader play after play, where Butler would disappear for long periods of time but when he was on he was on! Boyd made plays down the stretch. He made a sweet crossover to get to the rim to score. That play had me jump off the couch! He also had a nice dime for a dunk. Dude gots true play making skills. And a 3 point shot. Boyd is a true point guard and our best basketball player on the team. You can see he wants the ball and doesn't get scared with a little man to man press. Would have benefited from him last year with him on the team. UCSD put there best defender on the team on him. Butler is a combo guard. He struggles with bringing up the ball with a little pressure , couldn't make his 3s on a consistent basis, and his free throw shooting was awful last year. I know he is a legend at SDSU but last year that fame got to his head. A change a scenery probably will benefit him. As to Micah Perish, he will avg 14 ppg in the big ten. Mark it. The OSU offense has more structure andwill benefit him. From the 3 transfers he will be missed the most. Boyd is looking to feed his players first and knows he can turn it up offensively if he has to carry the load. The interesting thing we have going now is BJ Davis has improve and know we have two PG. Another thing to note is we started with a five out offense and when Nick Boyd would kick out the ball our bigs were not there to receive the ball which cause a few turnover. McKinney did the same thing. So if turnovers were to be scored like baseball errors, his bigs and Mckenny would be the blame. It got so bad that Dutcher went back to his 1990 offense because him and Dave is all they know. |
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Post by sdsu1776 on Nov 7, 2024 8:17:01 GMT -8
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Post by couldashoulda on Nov 7, 2024 8:24:25 GMT -8
Sloppy first 33 minutes of the game (or so). About what I would expect from a bunch of guys who really are getting to know each other. The next 4 games are a gauntlet. If we can get one win out of the four, I think that will show the promise of what's to come in February and March. Regarding Byrd, and any other player, and what they may or may not get paid going forward...its the new normal. We were able to pick up a guy like Nick Boyd this year. Yeah, we will lose some, and we will gain some. It's not the days of Tony Gwynn and Michael Cage any longer.
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Post by sdsuballer on Nov 7, 2024 8:33:48 GMT -8
Sloppy first 33 minutes of the game (or so). About what I would expect from a bunch of guys who really are getting to know each other. The next 4 games are a gauntlet. If we can get one win out of the four, I think that will show the promise of what's to come in February and March. Regarding Byrd, and any other player, and what they may or may not get paid going forward...its the new normal. We were able to pick up a guy like Nick Boyd this year. Yeah, we will lose some, and we will gain some. It's not the days of Tony Gwynn and Michael Cage any longer. Yeah another year of bad offense when opposing teams play Zone. You make 2 or 3 buckets in a row and this game should have been a blow out. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Nov 7, 2024 8:41:33 GMT -8
I liked what I saw from Byrd the entire game and Boyd in the last few minutes. Compton will be a beast in time and DeGourville looked like he belonged.
The discouraging part is that the EVT article on the relatively weak front line might prove out. Gwath appears to be a great shot blocker but our rebounding was nothing to write home about (we got 34 to short UCSD's 30) and we had a hard time working the ball inside. Considering what we're up against later this month, that's going to be a major liability.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 7, 2024 8:49:17 GMT -8
Good press conference with Dutcher. He states offensive discontinuity was due to match up zone and lack of practice / experience against it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pfY874jBpo |
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Post by aztecking on Nov 7, 2024 8:53:19 GMT -8
Yeah, remember what a headache that was last year? Butler and Trammel were turnover machines. No I don't remember. Butler averaged 1.4 TOs per game last year, and Trammel averaged 1.2. Boyd had 4 turnovers last night in 11 minutes. He needs to clean that up. Boyd played 33 min not 11. |
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