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Post by aztecterrier on Sept 3, 2024 13:02:55 GMT -8
$115 a ticket for the away center upper deck for Oregon State. They keep saying they have listened to fans and adjusted prices but I don’t think they understand how cheap Aztec fans are. How do our prices compare to concerts these days? Center upper deck seats are actually pretty good, IMO. I go to 20+ shows a year, always to see major label artists or well know independents. If you want to go to Petco or Snapdragon and see a superstar like Billy Joel or Pink you're going to pay $200-$400 for great seats. If you're going to an outdoor amphitheater in CV or Irvine prices for well known acts are usually half that. In the past year I have gone to theater and concert hall shows and generally paid under a hundred bucks for fantastic seats to see some of my favorite band/artists. The point is, going to a concert is more affordable than Aztec football at every price point except for the Mega-Superstar stadium acts. And SDSU ain't even in one of college football s big boy conferences. |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 3, 2024 13:34:53 GMT -8
BSU sold twice as many (20,000+) season tix as the Aztecs this year. (So far) Check the Knight commission database, we have more ticket sale dollars and donations (a part of the ticket pries) than Boise.  Great Website. Thanks for pointing this out. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 3, 2024 13:41:48 GMT -8
It looks like the admins took 2K seats (the same 2K seats tha did not sell las game) top deck dead center off the market. I suspect they will be making them available to the students and their guests.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2024 14:43:07 GMT -8
Stadium food has always been expensive. I have no issue with that You don’t have to eat at the game.
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Post by aztecking on Sept 3, 2024 14:49:57 GMT -8
Make one of the upper level corners a Family Section. 4 tickets (2 adults, 2 kids) for $100-120, maybe throw in a parking pass. They will likely buy food/drinks as well. At least do it for 1 game! Or, continue to charge $75 apiece and they dont come at all This is reasonable If you're someone in their 40s or 50s making 120 k a year. $200 total including food and drinks would be budget friendly too. Not exactly cheap but it's inexpensive enough to do for at least another game I would agree. Somewhere between $200-250 is the price point need to hit in order to get families out to the games in somewhat reasonable numbers. That would include 4 tickets, parking, 4 hot dogs and a couple sodas, and maybe a popcorn. They are nowhere near that right now. This would be what, $400 right now? |
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Post by docmm on Sept 3, 2024 14:58:32 GMT -8
Not sure why the people running the stadium for football are so blind, deaf and dumb as to what's going on. Are they complacent because they're getting so much income from other organizations besides football tix?
All I ever hear is what an amazing, incredlble business school SDSU is yet for as long as I've been going to SDSU events(29 years) the "marketing" has been absolutely horrible. It's always doing something that's behind the times or worse, not much at all.
I've seen at least a dozen different people on this board over the years pleading, begging for someone at the business school to have young students going for their MBA try and come up with plans or outlooks or some kind of action steps that don't look decades old.
Why has it been so bad for so long?
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 15:09:04 GMT -8
This is reasonable If you're someone in their 40s or 50s making 120 k a year. $200 total including food and drinks would be budget friendly too. Not exactly cheap but it's inexpensive enough to do for at least another game I would agree. Somewhere between $200-250 is the price point need to hit in order to get families out to the games in somewhat reasonable numbers. That would include 4 tickets, parking, 4 hot dogs and a couple sodas, and maybe a popcorn. They are nowhere near that right now. This would be what, $400 right now? What if I told you it would cost only $62.00 per person to have 4 season tickets in the yellow sections that included parking, 4 hot dogs, 4 drinks and a pop corn to share at each game? Yellow Section Season tickets are $200, parking is $25 and I’m using $10 per hot dog, drink and pop corn. Bonus is you can sit in many other sections while there are several seats open. Can we take some action now and get on board with San Diego State Football? Spread the word and let’s create a Viejas type environment! |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Sept 3, 2024 15:16:33 GMT -8
Not sure why the people running the stadium for football are so blind, deaf and dumb as to what's going on. Are they complacent because they're getting so much income from other organizations besides football tix? All I ever hear is what an amazing, incredlble business school SDSU is yet for as long as I've been going to SDSU events(29 years) the "marketing" has been absolutely horrible. It's always doing something that's behind the times or worse, not much at all. I've seen at least a dozen different people on this board over the years pleading, begging for someone at the business school to have young students going for their MBA try and come up with plans or outlooks or some kind of action steps that don't look decades old. Why has it been so bad for so long? Mostly because the really smart kids like me and AzTex got accounting and finance degrees. The baddies as my boys say got the marketing degrees and they are all in Pharma, Med Device, etc. Actually, to be serious, the Marketing folks do have graduation projects and projects in their classes. This sounds like an opportunity for a great case study and project to look at the current situation and ideas on how to improve. Maybe the answer isn't with the Administration or Decision Makers, but maybe we can get a Marketing/Advertising Professor to make this a group project in one of these classes. Hoobs, please call up some of your old buddies and tell them Hopeless Aztec has an incredible idea and we need their help. Someone has to know a Professor who is interested in sports and is committed to helping. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2024 15:18:13 GMT -8
I would agree. Somewhere between $200-250 is the price point need to hit in order to get families out to the games in somewhat reasonable numbers. That would include 4 tickets, parking, 4 hot dogs and a couple sodas, and maybe a popcorn. They are nowhere near that right now. This would be what, $400 right now? What if I told you it would cost only $62.00 per person to have 4 season tickets in the yellow sections that included parking, 4 hot dogs, 4 drinks and a pop corn to share at each game? Yellow Section Season tickets are $200, parking is $25 and I’m using $10 per hot dog, drink and pop corn. Bonus is you can sit in many other sections while there are several seats open. Can we take some action now and get on board with San Diego State Football? Spread the word and let’s create a Viejas type environment! We are trying to get casual fans that come to 1 or maybe 2 games a year. Young families aren’t going to 6 or 7 home games. That’s too much of a time and financial commitment for them. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 3, 2024 15:19:45 GMT -8
Boise football is equivalent to our Aztec basketball program, not our football program. We can jack up our prices on basketball seats and the demand will still be there. Our football team has been brutal to watch, practically since Rashaad Penny left... and especially the last few years. We haven't been able to throw the ball further than 7 yards down the field since the Tom Craft era. Further, Boise has won a New Years bowl game against Oklahoma and is the absolute best show in town for every single Saturday home game.
It's not the same, and obviously the market for season tickets here in San Diego agrees with me. They obviously need to lower the prices further to create more demand. Lower the prices, increase demand... then when demand increases enough, you can raise prices. Simple economics
The only thing that could also increase demand is if we have a shockingly good year and midway through the season the hype reaches all across San Diego, but I wouldn't count on it with this young/new team
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Post by Den60 on Sept 3, 2024 15:26:25 GMT -8
Mathematically I understand the pricing, it’s a dollar optimization model not a attendance optimization model. $62.50 is the cheapest ticket and that’s a bit perplexing at first blush. Let’s see what ticket sales are this week. I suspect it won’t be much different than last week or maybe a smidge higher and they will earn much more than week 1 and $ wise it will be a success. I wonder if they will loosen the $ optimization once they start collecting $5M plus from mls. Then there is also the theory of the "loss leader" to get people in and keep them coming back. In my opinion, we need to grow the product before worrying about maximizing revenue. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 3, 2024 15:37:08 GMT -8
How do you tailgate if you take the trolley? Tailgating at college football games is a big things for a lot of fans. Making tailgating inconvenient and expensive is going to be a big turn off for a lot of the fans. I participated while using the trolley for Charger games. We had one party that set up the site - brought grill, EZ-up, coolers, tables, chairs and others who drove would bring their own chairs. I would bring a 6 pack of beer, and whatever food was requested of me, and use chairs brought. Since it was the same group all the time we would pitch in to offset costs and if extra chairs that cooled be pooled as well. Worked out fine. I seem to recall that there are some professionally run tailgate options as well. No new stadium is going to be built to go overboard to accommodate tailgating and you are never again see what we used to have in that regards at the former stadium. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 3, 2024 15:40:38 GMT -8
$10 for a fountain soda. Good lord. Serve yourself and save? This has little to do with concession wages - all they have to do is hand you a cup and turn the charge machine in your direction - and everything to do with what's wrong. I's free refills. It's actually a bargain. Yes, that would make it quite affordable for such a long event. Could easily see some refilling many times during the 4 hours. |
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 15:49:43 GMT -8
What if I told you it would cost only $62.00 per person to have 4 season tickets in the yellow sections that included parking, 4 hot dogs, 4 drinks and a pop corn to share at each game? Yellow Section Season tickets are $200, parking is $25 and I’m using $10 per hot dog, drink and pop corn. Bonus is you can sit in many other sections while there are several seats open. Can we take some action now and get on board with San Diego State Football? Spread the word and let’s create a Viejas type environment! We are trying to get casual fans that come to 1 or maybe 2 games a year. Young families aren’t going to 6 or 7 home games. That’s too much of a time and financial commitment for them. Then split the Season with 2 or 3 families to make it fit for you or spend more one time a year ($331 with parking, 4 dogs, 4 drinks and popcorn. I think you can bring in unopened waters. Save $40!) Or don't and keep complaining. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2024 16:08:58 GMT -8
We are trying to get casual fans that come to 1 or maybe 2 games a year. Young families aren’t going to 6 or 7 home games. That’s too much of a time and financial commitment for them. Then split the Season with 2 or 3 families to make it fit for you or spend more one time a year ($331 with parking, 4 dogs, 4 drinks and popcorn. I think you can bring in unopened waters. Save $40!) Or don't and keep complaining. That might work for some but not for the majority of casual fans. They want to buy a “family pack” for a single game and be done with it. Splitting season tickets with multiple families is too much effort for someone who just wants to go to a game on a whim. |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Sept 3, 2024 16:10:39 GMT -8
I typically go to home games to support the team, but honestly prefer watching on TV. When I do go to the game, I usually record it and watch a second time the next day (since I tend to miss a lot of details in person). We need to remember, there isn't much else to do in Boise versus San Diego and you can't compare SDSU football game prices to a concert knowing that "one and done" event typically sells out. This last "opening day" game offered the cheapest tickets for the season, so while we may have better opponents later, the fans will have to pay more to attend them. I'm a little worried that extra cost will hurt attendance when we need the fans the most. For Saturday's game, I spent more on parking, beer and food then I did on the seats, I hope SDSU needs to consider that when they price things out. Logically it seems like we should price to maximize attendance, then raise seat prices when demand starts to exceed supply. But this is San Diego, perhaps we wouldn't even sell out with free tickets? I'm sure they have pros modeling everything out to figure out what generates the most profit. Was there nothing else to do in San Diego in the late '60s when we were getting something like 40,000 at home games? Isn't that when SDSU used to let fans bring in a 1 gallon milk carton filled with beer? The good 'ole days... |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2024 16:14:38 GMT -8
I typically go to home games to support the team, but honestly prefer watching on TV. When I do go to the game, I usually record it and watch a second time the next day (since I tend to miss a lot of details in person). We need to remember, there isn't much else to do in Boise versus San Diego and you can't compare SDSU football game prices to a concert knowing that "one and done" event typically sells out. This last "opening day" game offered the cheapest tickets for the season, so while we may have better opponents later, the fans will have to pay more to attend them. I'm a little worried that extra cost will hurt attendance when we need the fans the most. For Saturday's game, I spent more on parking, beer and food then I did on the seats, I hope SDSU needs to consider that when they price things out. Logically it seems like we should price to maximize attendance, then raise seat prices when demand starts to exceed supply. But this is San Diego, perhaps we wouldn't even sell out with free tickets? I'm sure they have pros modeling everything out to figure out what generates the most profit. Was there nothing else to do in San Diego in the late '60s when we were getting something like 40,000 at home games? During the sixty’s you couldn’t sit at home in front of your 65” 4K HDTV and watch SDSU football. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 3, 2024 16:19:04 GMT -8
Somebody could likely expound on this, but since SDSU is sharing the stadium with professional sports teams, could the price of refreshments be somewhat controlled as to not give an advantage of one team, which could be SDSU, over the others when vying for fans, who may consider that when working on their entertainment budget?
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Post by Den60 on Sept 3, 2024 16:20:06 GMT -8
Was there nothing else to do in San Diego in the late '60s when we were getting something like 40,000 at home games? During the sixty’s you couldn’t sit at home in front of your 65” 4K HDTV and watch SDSU football. Yep, if you wanted to see Coryell's offense when he was at SDSU, you had to be there in person. |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 3, 2024 16:23:08 GMT -8
Was there nothing else to do in San Diego in the late '60s when we were getting something like 40,000 at home games? During the sixty’s you couldn’t sit at home in front of your 65” 4K HDTV and watch SDSU football. You couldn't see Aztec football on any size screen. We weren't ever on TV with only very few rare exceptions. |
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