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Post by missiontrails on Sept 2, 2024 19:28:45 GMT -8
I know we have a new stadium to pay for. We also have tenants and special events that bring in money. If Aztec tix were $20 less across the board, we'd make more money, for several reasons. And PR with fans is better, recruits see butts in the seats, and so do fans of other schools and we're no longer the endless butt of jokes. But no.......we elect to be stupid instead, per usual.
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Post by azman on Sept 2, 2024 19:43:36 GMT -8
Make one of the upper level corners a Family Section. 4 tickets (2 adults, 2 kids) for $100-120, maybe throw in a parking pass. They will likely buy food/drinks as well. At least do it for 1 game!
Or, continue to charge $75 apiece and they dont come at all
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Post by laaztec on Sept 2, 2024 20:02:45 GMT -8
Make one of the upper level corners a Family Section. 4 tickets (2 adults, 2 kids) for $100-120, maybe throw in a parking pass. They will likely buy food/drinks as well. At least do it for 1 game! Or, continue to charge $75 apiece and they dont come at all Agree |
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Post by campanile on Sept 2, 2024 21:29:27 GMT -8
The seats are only worth as much as the fans are willing to pay. A lot of us are not going to pay Harley Davidson prices for a Vespa scooter. Aztec football is alienating their fans by charging way too much for everything.
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Post by jp92grad on Sept 2, 2024 23:14:27 GMT -8
Big Picture, people are not interested at this price to watch a college football game at Snapdragon Stadium.
SDSU is not a small University, San Diego is not a small market, San Diego has no NFL team, the Aztecs have no D1 competition in football in San Diego, Snapdragon stadium is NEW and basically now an on-campus facility, Snapdragon is centrally located with somewhat easy access, SDSU has plenty of Alumni in the region.............
So what's the hold up?
The Aztecs are going into their 3rd season with a new stadium and still have the same problem with poor tv appearance to the general public across the country. This program needs to figure out how to get butts in the seats for the majority of the game along with keeping the student section filled up.
The overall optics of these games are not a good look, they seem to be playing in an oversized stadium (only 35K?) with a well below average crowd (22k?) which is not what SDSU wants to put out or should be putting out if wanting to move up into a bigger conference.
---This is soo much much more then waiting around for this team to win a few more games, yes that would be a nice start but much much more is needed to help this program.
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Post by hoobs on Sept 3, 2024 5:00:38 GMT -8
So, out of curiosity, let's look at Boise State prices as a comparison. We like to hold ourselves up as "superior" to Boise St (which, for the record, I agree with -- in every way except football on-field success), and a much better 'fit' for improving our conference affiliation. So it would stand to reason, that with Boise's much lower cost of living counter-acting their better football success... it should be a pretty clean comparison. Boise St seating map: broncosports.com/documents/2024/3/7/FB_Seating_Map_2024.pdfSeats in the upper deck, top of section, @ 10 yard line... are $399 for the season, or $66.5 per game (6 game schedule). There are also some end zone seats that don't really seem totally comparable to Snapdragon, but anyhow those are $244 or just over $37 per game. The 'way up in the very top corner' limited availability cheap seats are $174 / $29 per game. Everyone wanted a new stadium... and was warned that there was zero chance of the type of super-cheap tickets folks had enjoyed for years at the Murph would remain. Upper deck pricing for the Oregon State game is virtually idenitical to Boise State tix on their site (linked above). $62.55 (SDSU) vs. $66.50 (Boise), and $115.60 (SDSU) vs. $99.83 (Boise). And SDSU tix for games other than Oregon State or Washington State seem cheaper than tix for Boise home games. Are football tickets, movie tickets, concert tickets, etc. more expensive than they used to be? Yes. But that's not SDSU's fault.
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Post by sdsuballer on Sept 3, 2024 6:17:09 GMT -8
Buy the $200 season tix, park at old town, and take the trolley. Cost less than $40 per game with transportation. I even get lower bowl tix. The casual fan that show up once a year for the biggest game will always complain.
The other way to get cheap tix is to ask your military friend to
buy a voucher at the navy exchange.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 3, 2024 7:02:46 GMT -8
I'm sure they have models for pricing and according to the computers this gives them the most dollars. I just think you need to put a human touch on it also. If you lower the price of admission, you get more parking revenue. You also get far more concession revenue, and people also have a better time and will want to come back if it's a packed stadium. A 25 year old alumni making 50-60k per year isn't going to want to pay $65 just for entry for a football game. When I was 25 (8 years ago) I would pay $15-20 for Qualcomm tickets and sit wherever I wanted and it was awesome. I ended up drunkenly spending $100 anyway because of all the beers and concessions, and I'd always bring at least 6-8 of us in a group and we'd all do the same. If tickets were $65 just to get in, I guarantee we wouldn't have gone to the games in the first place And that isn't even an example of a family going to the games... Lower prices are also an investment in building a fan base, now and in the future, especially when the team hasn't proven it can come close to compete with the big dogs (unlike Basketball). Price out the average person or family and they find other things to do and the whole family (kids included) build interest in those areas for the next 25 years. That's decades of fewer fans, fewer jersey sales, fewer donations. Everything that creates a following for a sports team starts to dwindle. My now young adult kids are SDSU fans because we could afford to take the to games when they were younger. |
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Post by jp92grad on Sept 3, 2024 7:36:37 GMT -8
I'm sure they have models for pricing and according to the computers this gives them the most dollars. I just think you need to put a human touch on it also. If you lower the price of admission, you get more parking revenue. You also get far more concession revenue, and people also have a better time and will want to come back if it's a packed stadium. A 25 year old alumni making 50-60k per year isn't going to want to pay $65 just for entry for a football game. When I was 25 (8 years ago) I would pay $15-20 for Qualcomm tickets and sit wherever I wanted and it was awesome. I ended up drunkenly spending $100 anyway because of all the beers and concessions, and I'd always bring at least 6-8 of us in a group and we'd all do the same. If tickets were $65 just to get in, I guarantee we wouldn't have gone to the games in the first place And that isn't even an example of a family going to the games... Lower prices are also an investment in building a fan base, now and in the future, especially when the team hasn't proven it can come close to compete with the big dogs (unlike Basketball). Price out the average person or family and they find other things to do and the whole family (kids included) build interest in those areas for the next 25 years. That's decades of fewer fans, fewer jersey sales, fewer donations. Everything that creates a following for a sports team starts to dwindle. My now young adult kids are SDSU fans because we could afford to take the to games when they were younger. SDSU please take note of this simple concept from post above: "Price out the average person or family and they find other things to do and the whole family (kids included) build interest in those areas for the next 25 years. That's decades of fewer fans, fewer jersey sales, fewer donations. Everything that creates a following for a sports team starts to dwindle."
Not only the price of the ticket and play on field but the entire Game Day Experience, that is total value worth and enjoyment of experience and value on money spent and time invested into the game day. I believe that in San Diego these days there is more competition for things to do and less less time due to increased population and traffic. |
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 3, 2024 9:28:22 GMT -8
So, out of curiosity, let's look at Boise State prices as a comparison. We like to hold ourselves up as "superior" to Boise St (which, for the record, I agree with -- in every way except football on-field success), and a much better 'fit' for improving our conference affiliation. So it would stand to reason, that with Boise's much lower cost of living counter-acting their better football success... it should be a pretty clean comparison. Boise St seating map: broncosports.com/documents/2024/3/7/FB_Seating_Map_2024.pdfSeats in the upper deck, top of section, @ 10 yard line... are $399 for the season, or $66.5 per game (6 game schedule). There are also some end zone seats that don't really seem totally comparable to Snapdragon, but anyhow those are $244 or just over $37 per game. The 'way up in the very top corner' limited availability cheap seats are $174 / $29 per game. Everyone wanted a new stadium... and was warned that there was zero chance of the type of super-cheap tickets folks had enjoyed for years at the Murph would remain. Upper deck pricing for the Oregon State game is virtually idenitical to Boise State tix on their site (linked above). $62.55 (SDSU) vs. $66.50 (Boise), and $115.60 (SDSU) vs. $99.83 (Boise). And SDSU tix for games other than Oregon State or Washington State seem cheaper than tix for Boise home games. Are football tickets, movie tickets, concert tickets, etc. more expensive than they used to be? Yes. But that's not SDSU's fault.
That's a good way to compare and inject some reality into our bitching......however, I would add one caveat. What were the price of tix prior to Boise's sustained success? (factoring in inflation of course - I know it was several years ago). Remember, Boise had an absolutely generational year when they beat Oklahoma on New Year's Day, and no doubt turned that whole mid-sized city into avid Bronco fans. If the Aztecs are able to make it into the playoffs, and especially if they win a game or two, then you can jack up the prices. Until then, it's going to be really hard to bring in casual fans at the prices we're currently charging. A casual might switch to an Aztec game on TV, see all the empty seats, and subconsciously say "this must be a lame event, nobody's there." P.S. I'm not saying the Aztecs making the playoffs is the ONLY way we'll fill the stadium, but I thought it was an appropriate comparison to Boise's Oklahoma win. Big wins and an exciting offense may be enough. |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 3, 2024 9:47:36 GMT -8
Are football tickets, movie tickets, concert tickets, etc. more expensive than they used to be? Yes. But that's not SDSU's fault.
The Market sets the price for tickets. If there are no or few buyers, what really is the price. It is really interesting to see that most of the crowd is in the club area or the corners of the end zones where the prices are cheapest. Unfortunately, the tv cameras are focused on higher priced tickets that people aren't willing to pay for. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 3, 2024 9:48:20 GMT -8
Make one of the upper level corners a Family Section. 4 tickets (2 adults, 2 kids) for $100-120, maybe throw in a parking pass. They will likely buy food/drinks as well. At least do it for 1 game! Or, continue to charge $75 apiece and they dont come at all This is reasonable If you're someone in their 40s or 50s making 120 k a year. $200 total including food and drinks would be budget friendly too. Not exactly cheap but it's inexpensive enough to do for at least another game |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 3, 2024 9:53:25 GMT -8
The timing for the opening of Snapdragon was bad for SDSU.
First two years had high priced tickets for an average (I am trying to be nice) product. Bad combination.
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 9:54:20 GMT -8
What do you think the tickets should be priced at keeping in mind we are in a new state of the art $310 million stadium vs. one that was falling apart? Furthermore, what price would you jump in on Season tickets? Seems to me there’s a price point for all who wish to support the program. The entire upper deck shouldn’t cost more than going out to a movie. The lower bowl can have “premium” pricing. I am excited at the direction of the program but the casual fan isn’t paying over $100 to watch a program that has struggled recently. So you’re suggesting tickets should cost $15 or less (matinee)? $75 for the season? I think we have been to bowl games 12 of the last 13 years and while we are all hoping to improve from the last two season records and take the next step to better bowl games and relevance I doubt we will get there by reducing fan support and risking profitability by offering under market prices. Take a look at the regular Top 25 programs as that is who we need to model ourselves after in order to be successful in my opinion. |
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 9:57:03 GMT -8
Plus $42 game day yellow parking Trolley is $5.00 |
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 10:03:37 GMT -8
So, out of curiosity, let's look at Boise State prices as a comparison. We like to hold ourselves up as "superior" to Boise St (which, for the record, I agree with -- in every way except football on-field success), and a much better 'fit' for improving our conference affiliation. So it would stand to reason, that with Boise's much lower cost of living counter-acting their better football success... it should be a pretty clean comparison. Boise St seating map: broncosports.com/documents/2024/3/7/FB_Seating_Map_2024.pdfSeats in the upper deck, top of section, @ 10 yard line... are $399 for the season, or $66.5 per game (6 game schedule). There are also some end zone seats that don't really seem totally comparable to Snapdragon, but anyhow those are $244 or just over $37 per game. The 'way up in the very top corner' limited availability cheap seats are $174 / $29 per game. Everyone wanted a new stadium... and was warned that there was zero chance of the type of super-cheap tickets folks had enjoyed for years at the Murph would remain. Upper deck pricing for the Oregon State game is virtually idenitical to Boise State tix on their site (linked above). $62.55 (SDSU) vs. $66.50 (Boise), and $115.60 (SDSU) vs. $99.83 (Boise). And SDSU tix for games other than Oregon State or Washington State seem cheaper than tix for Boise home games. Are football tickets, movie tickets, concert tickets, etc. more expensive than they used to be? Yes. But that's not SDSU's fault.
Excellent example and if you have been to Boise you know their stadium doesn’t hold a candle to ours. Stop whining and buy the cheapest seats, sit wherever while it’s not full and support your school. That’s what fans do. |
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 3, 2024 10:04:36 GMT -8
Plus $42 game day yellow parking Trolley is $5.00 Tough to haul my cooler, chair and shade to tailgate on trolley🤔 |
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Post by aztecx on Sept 3, 2024 10:07:11 GMT -8
Plus $42 game day yellow parking Trolley is $5.00 How do you tailgate if you take the trolley? Tailgating at college football games is a big things for a lot of fans. Making tailgating inconvenient and expensive is going to be a big turn off for a lot of the fans. |
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Post by aztec1 on Sept 3, 2024 10:07:54 GMT -8
Tough to haul my cooler, chair and shade to tailgate on trolley🤔 True, bring a few cold ones and when they run out go into the new tented area at the river walk block party where there is shade and drinks for sale. Worst case you spend $42… |
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Post by azson on Sept 3, 2024 10:07:56 GMT -8
The timing for the opening of Snapdragon was bad for SDSU. First two years had high priced tickets for an average (I am trying to be nice) product. Bad combination. Add in the record-setting 100+ degree day of the inaugural game (and subsequent beat-down by AZ) and you have the perfect storm for an all-around suckage fan experience. |
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