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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 11, 2024 15:02:58 GMT -8
The amount of truly undecided people in mid-September is extraordinarily low in comparison to the total numbers of votes cast. It won't swing the election. Debates have very little effect on election results. I disagree with this assessment. Me, too. Independents came to hate Trump's nonsense and malfeasance. This was a big reminder.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 15:09:32 GMT -8
I disagree with this assessment. Me, too. Independents came to hate Trump's nonsense and malfeasance. Trump went from winning Independents in 2016 (43-42) to losing Independents in 2020 (52-43) Notice a common number?
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Post by North County Aztec on Sept 11, 2024 16:06:15 GMT -8
I disagree with this assessment. Me, too. Independents came to hate Trump's nonsense and malfeasance. This was a big reminder. Pay attention. The numbers didn't move.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 16:18:03 GMT -8
Me, too. Independents came to hate Trump's nonsense and malfeasance. This was a big reminder. Pay attention. The numbers didn't move. ....No polls have been released. You might want to pay attention.
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Post by azdick on Sept 12, 2024 11:36:29 GMT -8
Pay attention. The numbers didn't move. ....No polls have been released. You might want to pay attention. The initial post-debate polls (September 10-11) have Harris up 5,5,3 and 3, the latter being Reb funded. The betting odds have also swung to Harris. The betting houses also had Harris the clear winner of the debate. These are facts, and I would hope even Trumpsters would have enough common sense to accept the reality. Is the race still too close to call? Of course, anything can happen in the next eight weeks, but yes, Harris has certainly put a bigger gap between her and her opponent.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 12, 2024 12:14:19 GMT -8
....No polls have been released. You might want to pay attention. The initial post-debate polls (September 10-11) have Harris up 5,5,3 and 3, the latter being Reb funded. The betting odds have also swung to Harris. The betting houses also had Harris the clear winner of the debate. These are facts, and I would hope even Trumpsters would have enough common sense to accept the reality. Is the race still too close to call? Of course, anything can happen in the next eight weeks, but yes, Harris has certainly put a bigger gap between her and her opponent. The debate was the night of the 10th, so I'm skeptical of data that only includes essentially one day worth of validity. We won't really know until next week, when the week-long polls get released.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 12, 2024 12:55:44 GMT -8
Harris won the debate. I don't think Trump had much to lose, and I think Harris had a lot to lose if she pulled some kind of Biden. Neither did horrible enough to sway the election in my opinion. It's should be really close.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 12, 2024 14:27:02 GMT -8
Harris won the debate. I don't think Trump had much to lose, and I think Harris had a lot to lose if she pulled some kind of Biden. Neither did horrible enough to sway the election in my opinion. It's should be really close. Come on, Trump was a bigger disaster than Biden was in June.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 12, 2024 14:30:38 GMT -8
Harris won the debate. I don't think Trump had much to lose, and I think Harris had a lot to lose if she pulled some kind of Biden. Neither did horrible enough to sway the election in my opinion. It's should be really close. Come on, Trump was a bigger disaster than Biden was in June. You'll have better luck debating your coffee table.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 12, 2024 14:32:12 GMT -8
Harris won the debate. I don't think Trump had much to lose, and I think Harris had a lot to lose if she pulled some kind of Biden. Neither did horrible enough to sway the election in my opinion. It's should be really close. Come on, Trump was a bigger disaster than Biden was in June. Oh boy. Ok. It looks like you've got it bad, as well. Remember what you preach. Be mindful of the trolling rules that you like to threaten with.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 12, 2024 14:39:42 GMT -8
Come on, Trump was a bigger disaster than Biden was in June. Oh boy. Ok. It looks like you've got it bad, as well. Remember what you preach. Be mindful of the trolling rules that you like to threaten with. What a strange comment for what was an arguably truthful statement. Everything you do...is in defense of Trump. Literally everything. Biden being 81 (and actually showing some recoverability at the end of his debate) is nowhere near what we saw Tuesday night. Sloppy, undisciplined, racist, misogynist, conspiracy floating nonsense. What we didn't see? Anything on policy, anything to do with the truth. When GOP pundits are saying it's one of the worst debate performances we've ever seen, you should believe them.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 12, 2024 15:12:05 GMT -8
Oh boy. Ok. It looks like you've got it bad, as well. Remember what you preach. Be mindful of the trolling rules that you like to threaten with. What a strange comment for what was an arguably truthful statement. Everything you do...is in defense of Trump. Literally everything. Biden being 81 (and actually showing some recoverability at the end of his debate) is nowhere near what we saw Tuesday night. Sloppy, undisciplined, racist, misogynist, conspiracy floating nonsense. What we didn't see? Anything on policy, anything to do with the truth. When GOP pundits are saying it's one of the worst debate performances we've ever seen, you should believe them. I wasn't referring to last night, at all, so there's that. I've already talked about the debate, and I said that Harris won that debate. You're so trigger happy with me to go to the worst lengths, and twist what I say. You can't wait to type some of the stuff you say without thinking first. Example: Literally everything you say is defending Trump. Well, there's a lot said about him on this forum and if I think something is unfair, I'll speak up, and that goes for anybody including Biden who I have defended plenty of times. It just so happens that there's a few on here that have it really bad for Trump and like to twist things and I like to straighten out those things twisted. Trump is the main topic on here so there's plenty of ammunition. I'm not shocked that you think it's arguable that Biden lost the debate. It's expected. He was so bad that they he booted him out after that. You do know that when you're evaluating a debate performance, you're looking at more than what they say. Do I really need to remind you of Biden's performance in June? Sheesh. Come on now. Also, I'm not saying that Trump was great in June, but Biden wasn't all there mentally amongst other issues, to say the least.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 12, 2024 16:58:22 GMT -8
What a strange comment for what was an arguably truthful statement. Everything you do...is in defense of Trump. Literally everything. Biden being 81 (and actually showing some recoverability at the end of his debate) is nowhere near what we saw Tuesday night. Sloppy, undisciplined, racist, misogynist, conspiracy floating nonsense. What we didn't see? Anything on policy, anything to do with the truth. When GOP pundits are saying it's one of the worst debate performances we've ever seen, you should believe them. I wasn't referring to last night, at all, so there's that. I've already talked about the debate, and I said that Harris won that debate. You're so trigger happy with me to go to the worst lengths, and twist what I say. You can't wait to type some of the stuff you say without thinking first. Example: Literally everything you say is defending Trump. Well, there's a lot said about him on this forum and if I think something is unfair, I'll speak up, and that goes for anybody including Biden who I have defended plenty of times. It just so happens that there's a few on here that have it really bad for Trump and like to twist things and I like to straighten out those things twisted. Trump is the main topic on here so there's plenty of ammunition. I'm not shocked that you think it's arguable that Biden lost the debate. It's expected. He was so bad that they he booted him out after that. You do know that when you're evaluating a debate performance, you're looking at more than what they say. Do I really need to remind you of Biden's performance in June? Sheesh. Come on now. Also, I'm not saying that Trump was great in June, but Biden wasn't all there mentally amongst other issues, to say the least. What are you talking about? Erik's comment was about the debate and you accused him of trolling and "having it bad." I'm not the one who isn't thinking...lol. Can you argue facts? Just once? I understand it's difficult when you're not really paying attention, but you can try. Today is Thursday, so nobody was talking about last night. I didn't say it was arguable Biden lost the debate. I said it's arguable that Trump's performance was worse than Biden's. Whatever inane logic you're using here isn't going to work - Biden stepped down. Trump still hasn't been asked to step down, despite a litany of offenses and abuses. All you've done is illustrate that the Republicans give a pass to Trump's conduct and actually condone or endorse it. Come on now is right.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 16, 2024 7:08:18 GMT -8
Biden gives a big F U to Harris putting on a Trump hat. Its reported that he wore the hat on Airforce 1 as well!
He has the most relaxed genuine smile since stepping into the oval office after putting on a Trump for President hat. Having Trump tell the truth to the American People about how he got kicked out like a dog by the corrupt Democratic Party looks to have been liberating for him. The Harris Coup is the biggest violation of Democracy in American history by replacing her name as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot. She was not voted for in any primary to be the Democratic Candidate. It is clear that the laws apply to everyone but the Democratic Party Leaders.
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Post by uwphoto on Sept 16, 2024 7:58:27 GMT -8
Biden gives a big F U to Harris putting on a Trump hat. Its reported that he wore the hat on Airforce 1 as well! He has the most relaxed genuine smile since stepping into the oval office after putting on a Trump for President hat. Having Trump tell the truth to the American People about how he got kicked out like a dog by the corrupt Democratic Party looks to have been liberating for him. The Harris Coup is the biggest violation of Democracy in American history by replacing her name as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot. She was not voted for in any primary to be the Democratic Candidate. It is clear that the laws apply to everyone but the Democratic Party Leaders. Qanon?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 16, 2024 8:14:25 GMT -8
Biden gives a big F U to Harris putting on a Trump hat. Its reported that he wore the hat on Airforce 1 as well! He has the most relaxed genuine smile since stepping into the oval office after putting on a Trump for President hat. Having Trump tell the truth to the American People about how he got kicked out like a dog by the corrupt Democratic Party looks to have been liberating for him. The Harris Coup is the biggest violation of Democracy in American history by replacing her name as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot. She was not voted for in any primary to be the Democratic Candidate. It is clear that the laws apply to everyone but the Democratic Party Leaders. You're turning into a troll.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 16, 2024 9:49:28 GMT -8
Biden gives a big F U to Harris putting on a Trump hat. Its reported that he wore the hat on Airforce 1 as well! He has the most relaxed genuine smile since stepping into the oval office after putting on a Trump for President hat. Having Trump tell the truth to the American People about how he got kicked out like a dog by the corrupt Democratic Party looks to have been liberating for him. The Harris Coup is the biggest violation of Democracy in American history by replacing her name as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot. She was not voted for in any primary to be the Democratic Candidate. It is clear that the laws apply to everyone but the Democratic Party Leaders. You're turning into a troll. It might be Biden taking the troll page out of Trump's playbook. I know you are pretty hardcore left, but you have to admit it was a pretty funny interaction with the hat trade. Finally a Democrat with a sense of humor.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 16, 2024 9:55:47 GMT -8
You're turning into a troll. It might be Biden taking the troll page out of Trump's playbook. I know you are pretty hardcore left, but you have to admit it was a pretty funny interaction with the hat trade. Finally a Democrat with a sense of humor. "Hardcore left?" No, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal with some moderate leanings. What you're describing are right-wing conspiracy theories....straight out of the playbook. It was a joke, I don't really care what Biden wears on his head. What I do care about is the disturbingly violent and racist rhetoric emanating from Donald Trump and his running mate. I do find it oddly humorous when people claiming to be Independent are clearly pro-Trump, though.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 16, 2024 10:36:52 GMT -8
It might be Biden taking the troll page out of Trump's playbook. I know you are pretty hardcore left, but you have to admit it was a pretty funny interaction with the hat trade. Finally a Democrat with a sense of humor. "Hardcore left?" No, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal with some moderate leanings. What you're describing are right-wing conspiracy theories....straight out of the playbook. It was a joke, I don't really care what Biden wears on his head. What I do care about is the disturbingly violent and racist rhetoric emanating from Donald Trump and his running mate. I do find it oddly humorous when people claiming to be Independent are clearly pro-Trump, though. I am Independent and objective, and see the biggest threat to our Democracy is the Democrat Socialist with their hate mongering dividing the Nation for profit. Harris is not a legitimate candidate because she was not voted for in any primary. You can be in denial all you want.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 16, 2024 10:47:13 GMT -8
"Hardcore left?" No, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal with some moderate leanings. What you're describing are right-wing conspiracy theories....straight out of the playbook. It was a joke, I don't really care what Biden wears on his head. What I do care about is the disturbingly violent and racist rhetoric emanating from Donald Trump and his running mate. I do find it oddly humorous when people claiming to be Independent are clearly pro-Trump, though. I am Independent and objective, and see the biggest threat to our Democracy is the Democrat Socialist with their hate mongering dividing the Nation for profit. Harris is not a legitimate candidate because she was not voted for in any primary. You can be in denial all you want. You are the furthest thing from objective, and it's not exactly hard to spot in your posts. You've consistently made excuses for Trump throughout. I gave you the benefit of the doubt early, but you've devolved into spreading conspiracy theories, just like the rest. Nothing unique or special about it. When you vote for a candidate, you vote for a ticket with two names on it. A Trump voter (himself going to be 79 next year) should be reasonably aware that there's an above average chance Trump could die during his term. You're signifying that a vote for Trump is a vote for JD Vance, just like a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for an ADMINISTRATION, not a PERSON. We had a literal insurrection, incited by Donald Trump, in 2021. We haven't had an attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812. Donald Trump has said repeatedly now that he will not accept the results of this election, either, if he were to lose. You make no mention of Trump's repeated hate speech, conveniently enough, yet you think the Democrats are causing all the problems. It's an unserious, illogical and nonsensical argument. The person in denial is you.
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