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Post by rockymountainaztec on Jul 25, 2024 11:52:14 GMT -8
It really sucks that SDSU now needs to wait 2 years to MAYBE get into a slightly better conference. Seems like the Big12 is now whale hunting and we may have burned this bridge anyway by preferring the Pac12 before the collapse. Still lamenting what could have been.. Don't think Yomark is going to hold a grudge. If adding SDSU adds to the value of the conference, he will add them. Yeah, you're probably right. Hopefully coach Lew and the AztecFast crew can start to dominate the MWC, pack the home game house plus increase viewership/buzz around the program nationally. This is the only thing that is a little lacking in our P4 resume right now as SDSU checks most of the other boxes. |
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Post by aztecjeff on Jul 26, 2024 11:03:38 GMT -8
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 26, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -8
I don't know if the MWC interest in OSU and WSU is waining but my interest in the MWC waned long ago.  |
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Post by Cwag on Jul 26, 2024 14:59:30 GMT -8
Based on this the best 8 team conference would be: Oregon State Washington State San Diego state Colorado State Boise State Rice Tulane Memphis |
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Post by hoobs on Jul 26, 2024 16:04:35 GMT -8
Based on this the best 8 team conference would be: Oregon State Washington State San Diego state Colorado State Boise State Rice Tulane Memphis I can't fathom a logic of leaving out UNLV. Swap them in, remove Memphis. |
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Post by Den60 on Jul 26, 2024 17:17:25 GMT -8
Based on this the best 8 team conference would be: Oregon State Washington State San Diego state Colorado State Boise State Rice Tulane Memphis I can't fathom a logic of leaving out UNLV. Swap them in, remove Memphis. Or move out Boise. Makes better geographic sense over leaving out Memphis. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 27, 2024 16:16:19 GMT -8
The Deuce Pac is going to buy their way into the Big-12 or ACC.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 27, 2024 16:46:08 GMT -8
The Deuce Pac is going to buy their way into the Big-12 or ACC.
AzWm
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Post by Den60 on Jul 27, 2024 19:00:01 GMT -8
The Deuce Pac is going to buy their way into the Big-12 or ACC.
AzWm
The PAC2 cannot use the money to buy into another conference. They can keep it only if they rebuild the PAC. |
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Post by standiego on Jul 28, 2024 10:00:06 GMT -8
So SDSU has to do as they have been doing seeing if they can grow the Football team's performance - with a much more entertaining team that fans will want to watch both in person and on TV If they can find the game - yes the die hards will know - but not so with an average fan
Have to at least win the first game with some exciting players ?
As of now the future of the PAC is up to OSU and WSU - then watch what happens with the ACC and ESPN's TV deal with them
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Post by aztech on Jul 28, 2024 12:55:42 GMT -8
So SDSU has to do as they have been doing seeing if they can grow the Football team's performance - with a much more entertaining team that fans will want to watch both in person and on TV If they can find the game - yes the die hards will know - but not so with an average fan Have to at least win the first game with some exciting players ? As of now the future of the PAC is up to OSU and WSU - then watch what happens with the ACC and ESPN's TV deal with them That's the biggest injustice that we face. CBSSN is not on the Nielsen ratings list so our media market has been a total waste!! No thanks to Hair Thompson Boise State gets more shots on ESPN than everyone else in this conference, despite not winning the conference championship regularly. IMO more people are familiar with BSU just because of that. The bright side for us is that conference commissioners are aware of our media market. That's something that Wicker must vocally remind them of, continually. Of course, we have to be consistent winners to get notice on that side of the issue. |
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Post by samurai on Jul 29, 2024 0:57:28 GMT -8
John Canzano mentioned who would likely be in a best of the rest conference. In his most recent article, he asked a few TV sources and they came up with the following list based on TV value:
Washington State
Oregon State
San Diego State
Colorado State
UTSA
North Texas
Memphis
South Florida
Air Force
Army
Navy
Fresno, Boise & UNLV would be on the bubble, possibly included due to brand/geography. Surprisingly, Tulane & Rice don't make the list.
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Post by 94sdsu on Jul 29, 2024 1:55:57 GMT -8
John Canzano mentioned who would likely be in a best of the rest conference. In his most recent article, he asked a few TV sources and they came up with the following list based on TV value: Washington State Oregon State San Diego State Colorado State UTSA North Texas Memphis South Florida Air Force Army Navy Fresno, Boise & UNLV would be on the bubble, possibly included due to brand/geography. Surprisingly, Tulane & Rice don't make the list. No thanks to that lineup, I’d rather stay regional |
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Post by jp92grad on Jul 29, 2024 6:38:18 GMT -8
John Canzano mentioned who would likely be in a best of the rest conference. In his most recent article, he asked a few TV sources and they came up with the following list based on TV value: Washington State Oregon State San Diego State Colorado State UTSA North Texas Memphis South Florida Air Force Army Navy Fresno, Boise & UNLV would be on the bubble, possibly included due to brand/geography. Surprisingly, Tulane & Rice don't make the list. South Florida is too isolated to work with this setup Air Force, Army an Navy should be Independent, they can swing it with their setup and budget. Fresno, Boise and UNLV make more sense regionally. I personally think SDSU needs to start campaigning with UNLV to join the BIG12 (I know, no one asked me but this would be nice) BIG12 should be looking to drop (or trade to ACC) UCF, UC and WV if for nothing more then just for the geographic sake, then pick up the PAC twins |
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Post by Cwag on Jul 29, 2024 8:26:23 GMT -8
John Canzano mentioned who would likely be in a best of the rest conference. In his most recent article, he asked a few TV sources and they came up with the following list based on TV value: Washington State Oregon State San Diego State Colorado State UTSA North Texas Memphis South Florida Air Force Army Navy Fresno, Boise & UNLV would be on the bubble, possibly included due to brand/geography. Surprisingly, Tulane & Rice don't make the list. South Florida is too isolated to work with this setup Air Force, Army an Navy should be Independent, they can swing it with their setup and budget. Fresno, Boise and UNLV make more sense regionally. I personally think SDSU needs to start campaigning with UNLV to join the BIG12 (I know, no one asked me but this would be nice) BIG12 should be looking to drop (or trade to ACC) UCF, UC and WV if for nothing more then just for the geographic sake, then pick up the PAC twins San Diego State and UConn to the Big 12 would be a strong move by them. |
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Post by standiego on Jul 29, 2024 9:11:54 GMT -8
Does very little good saying Big 12 pick us
This is all about Money the TV markets for the Big 12 - also think that ESPN would add big money to Big 12 deal for Power conference schools
SDSU would have to show that it can add a good amount of Viewers and as pointed out CBSSN does not seem to factor into the situation
Not likely to get the best of the rest unless there are 2 divisions a West and East to save on travel expenses
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Post by Den60 on Jul 29, 2024 13:33:23 GMT -8
South Florida is too isolated to work with this setup Air Force, Army an Navy should be Independent, they can swing it with their setup and budget. Fresno, Boise and UNLV make more sense regionally. I personally think SDSU needs to start campaigning with UNLV to join the BIG12 (I know, no one asked me but this would be nice) BIG12 should be looking to drop (or trade to ACC) UCF, UC and WV if for nothing more then just for the geographic sake, then pick up the PAC twins San Diego State and UConn to the Big 12 would be a strong move by them. I agree. SDSU and Memphis would be as well if UConn wants their BB to stay in the Big East. If you add SDSU to the B12 that would create divisions of: West: SDSU Utah Arizona ASU Colorado BYU Mid: Baylor Houston Texas Tech TCU Oklahoma St. Iowa St/Kansas St./Memphis East: Kansas Kansas St/Iowa St. Cincinnati West Virginia UCF UConn/Iowa St. If Memphis over UConn, they go into the mid and both Kansas Schools and Iowa St go to the East. |
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Post by Cwag on Jul 29, 2024 13:47:41 GMT -8
San Diego State and UConn to the Big 12 would be a strong move by them. I agree. SDSU and Memphis would be as well if UConn wants their BB to stay in the Big East. If you add SDSU to the B12 that would create divisions of: West: SDSU Utah Arizona ASU Colorado BYU Mid: Baylor Houston Texas Tech TCU Oklahoma St. Iowa St/Kansas St./Memphis East: Kansas Kansas St/Iowa St. Cincinnati West Virginia UCF UConn/Iowa St. If Memphis over UConn, they go into the mid and both Kansas Schools and Iowa St go to the East. That would be a real ballbuster of a basketball conference. |
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Post by Den60 on Jul 29, 2024 16:57:13 GMT -8
I agree. SDSU and Memphis would be as well if UConn wants their BB to stay in the Big East. If you add SDSU to the B12 that would create divisions of: West: SDSU Utah Arizona ASU Colorado BYU Mid: Baylor Houston Texas Tech TCU Oklahoma St. Iowa St/Kansas St./Memphis East: Kansas Kansas St/Iowa St. Cincinnati West Virginia UCF UConn/Iowa St. If Memphis over UConn, they go into the mid and both Kansas Schools and Iowa St go to the East. That would be a real ballbuster of a basketball conference. It is the absolute best we could hope for at this time. But, I would have preferred: UDub Oregon Ore. St Wazzu Cal Stanford Utah Zona ASU SDSU If you want to get to 12, then add UNLV and CSU. |
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Post by Gundo on Jul 29, 2024 20:32:32 GMT -8
John Canzano mentioned who would likely be in a best of the rest conference. In his most recent article, he asked a few TV sources and they came up with the following list based on TV value: Washington State Oregon State San Diego State Colorado State UTSA North Texas Memphis South Florida Air Force Army Navy Fresno, Boise & UNLV would be on the bubble, possibly included due to brand/geography. Surprisingly, Tulane & Rice don't make the list. I've worked in media, broadcast, advertising, data analytics and consumer research for over 35+ years and none of this makes sense to me from a content, audience, ratings standpoint. Again what was the source here? |
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