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Post by 94sdsu on Jul 15, 2024 13:26:48 GMT -8
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 15, 2024 14:48:33 GMT -8
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
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Post by chris92065 on Jul 15, 2024 15:03:47 GMT -8
My interest in staying in the mwc is dead so there is that. |
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Post by laaztec on Jul 15, 2024 15:04:31 GMT -8
My interest in staying in the mwc is dead so there is that. Me too. |
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Post by robthevol on Jul 15, 2024 15:06:36 GMT -8
I think this clearly states what many have been thinking. They are not bringing the old PAC12 into the MW nor as a new PAC they do not represent a reconstituted 108 year old conference.
The media markets know this and are offering what Big Sky conference is worth.
Give Gloria credit She already knew this
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Post by Den60 on Jul 15, 2024 15:51:57 GMT -8
The only reason for us to join withthe PAC2 is if they bring only 6 or so MWC schools. Put them on a MWC budget for 5 years and they are middle of the pac, if best, as a MWC member.
I still think we end up getting a B12 invite. We are too big a prize not to go to them or an ACC western expansion.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 15, 2024 16:03:02 GMT -8
Dodd assumes that the MW will receive the G5 playoff spot every year, but history shows that being the best G5 conference means that we'll knock each other off for an AAC or MAC team to go undefeated and grab the bid. I don't see the playoff situation being a reason to hold this league together.
Also, a lot could happen in the next couple of years before the primary media rights come up for bid again, particularly if the premier ACC programs depart for greener grass. It would be a shame for us to join the other MW schools and OSU/WSU, locked down in a slightly improved situation, only to have opportunities pop up to join the big boys.
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Post by Den60 on Jul 15, 2024 16:20:41 GMT -8
Dodd assumes that the MW will receive the G5 playoff spot every year, but history shows that being the best G5 conference means that we'll knock each other off for an AAC or MAC team to go undefeated and grab the bid. I don't see the playoff situation being a reason to hold this league together. Also, a lot could happen in the next couple of years before the primary media rights come up for bid again, particularly if the premier ACC programs depart for greener grass. It would be a shame for us to join the other MW schools and OSU/WSU, locked down in a slightly improved situation, only to have opportunities pop up to join the big boys. Again, the PAC can create a better western conference by adding the best of the MWC, which is anywhere from 4-8 teams. IMHO, closer to 5 or 6. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Jul 15, 2024 16:42:31 GMT -8
Oregon State and Washington State are hoping that something happens with the ACC sooner than later. The ACC would probably look to expand to survive and need to add west coast schools to go with Stanford and Cal.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 15, 2024 17:12:59 GMT -8
Oregon State and Washington State are hoping that something happens with the ACC sooner than later. The ACC would probably look to expand to survive and need to add west coast schools to go with Stanford and Cal. Oregon State adds value but Washington State adds nothing to any conference. |
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Post by fastaztec on Jul 15, 2024 18:43:06 GMT -8
Oregon State and Washington State are hoping that something happens with the ACC sooner than later. The ACC would probably look to expand to survive and need to add west coast schools to go with Stanford and Cal. Oregon State adds value but Washington State adds nothing to any conference. ******* Really? What value are you alluding to? I see them both as mediocre and certainly not more valuable from any standpoint than sdsu. |
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 15, 2024 19:28:26 GMT -8
The only reason for us to join withthe PAC2 is if they bring only 6 or so MWC schools. Put them on a MWC budget for 5 years and they are middle of the pac, if best, as a MWC member. I still think we end up getting a B12 invite. We are too big a prize not to go to them or an ACC western expansion. Who other than us thinks that we are a big prize? |
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Jul 15, 2024 20:12:18 GMT -8
The only reason for us to join withthe PAC2 is if they bring only 6 or so MWC schools. Put them on a MWC budget for 5 years and they are middle of the pac, if best, as a MWC member. I still think we end up getting a B12 invite. We are too big a prize not to go to them or an ACC western expansion. Who other than us thinks that we are a big prize? A seemingly fair question...... |
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Post by laaztec on Jul 15, 2024 20:39:01 GMT -8
Oregon State adds value but Washington State adds nothing to any conference. ******* Really? What value are you alluding to? I see them both as mediocre and certainly not more valuable from any standpoint than sdsu. SDSU’s more valuable than both of those schools. |
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Post by LostAztec on Jul 16, 2024 3:49:37 GMT -8
I still think we end up getting a B12 invite. We are too big a prize not to go to them or an ACC western expansion. If any of the P4 wanted SDSU, we would be in a P4 Conference. The Big12 are looking for ACC squads to hoover up. G5's will be their last option. |
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Post by McQuervo on Jul 16, 2024 5:04:01 GMT -8
Oregon State and Wazzu are, again, Sh+TTing their own bed with non-reaction or active movement toward unification of a conference.
The longer those two delay, the higher the likelihood of yet another failure will realize their demise.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 16, 2024 10:38:29 GMT -8
Oregon State and Wazzu are, again, Sh+TTing their own bed with non-reaction or active movement toward unification of a conference. The longer those two delay, the higher the likelihood of yet another failure will realize their demise. Correct. The hands off approach was a big reason why the Pac 12 fell apart. |
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Post by aztecm on Jul 16, 2024 12:03:40 GMT -8
An article by CBS who currently is apart of our current media rights contract screams conflict of interest lol but I get where they're coming from. OSU/WSU got left behind for a reason and covering the entire MW with the dead carcass of the PAC doesn't add much value.
The PAC 2 IMO is holding steady to wait for a possible ACC/BIG 12 invite, whether that's from ACC implosion or BIG 12 expansion. That's the easiest path to continued media rights dollars they're used to. If the invite doesn't come they weigh the cost/benefit of keeping PAC 12 alive vs merging with MW. As the article says, a total merge with the current MW doesn't do much to increase media rights $$. If bringing in the top of the MW and possible AAC can provide a better media rights deal than a current 10% increase then they go for it. All depends on the media rights partners.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Jul 16, 2024 12:12:19 GMT -8
******* Really? What value are you alluding to? I see them both as mediocre and certainly not more valuable from any standpoint than sdsu. SDSU’s more valuable than both of those schools. But yet, still worthless to P5 programs. Wazzu and OSU were left behind for a reason. And we are still in the G5 for a reason. We aren't as desirable as aztecmesa thinks. If we were, we would already be in the P5. |
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Post by azdick on Jul 17, 2024 9:05:32 GMT -8
SDSU’s more valuable than both of those schools. But yet, still worthless to P5 programs. Wazzu and OSU were left behind for a reason. And we are still in the G5 for a reason. We aren't as desirable as aztecmesa thinks. If we were, we would already be in the P5. It might help our “value” if we can beat them both this year. |
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