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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Apr 29, 2024 18:17:43 GMT -8
Regardless of your opinion of NIL, it's a f***ed up move for him and Butler to do it so late before the deadline (portal closes on 5/1, and there's few quality players remaining). So for those of you who ask "would you leave your job for a better paying job" -- absolutely. But I'd give my employer more notice than 36 hours before a major deadline that would f*** my team over if I can't be replaced. Bro, the schools can still sign players from the portal after the portal closes. Go look at the amount of quality unsigned players in the portal, all much better than Saunders. Portal closing stops players from putting their names in. Defensive consistency in this new area is going to be difficult with soo many players leaving, time to open up the offense |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Apr 29, 2024 18:21:16 GMT -8
The portal closes for entering, but once in the portal you can sign even after the deadline. Right, but for example, 15 of the top 25 PFs in the portal have already committed. By the time Dutcher even knew he needed to start looking for a replacement, 60% of his options are already gone. Dude get real. If we don’t have money for Saunders then we don’t have money for a top 15-25 PF. No player that we lost is top 80 in the portal, we will find a quality replacement. Defensive consistency will take a hit |
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Apr 29, 2024 18:27:42 GMT -8
I found out about Saunders a half hour ago. This one is hard. I could deal with Lamont leaving because he gave us 4 years and is using the covid year, but Saunders leaving truly feels like a blow to the program. Wow. Just wow. It says more about Saunders than it does the program. Sure it does, but the program is taking a hit with this one. Remember, last year Dutcher talked about Byrd and Saunders being two of the best players he’s ever signed. I doubt very much that Coach is happy with this. |
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Post by hoobs on Apr 29, 2024 18:45:44 GMT -8
It says more about Saunders than it does the program. Sure it does, but the program is taking a hit with this one. Remember, last year Dutcher talked about Byrd and Saunders being two of the best players he’s ever signed. I doubt very much that Coach is happy with this. Both of you are right, in different ways |
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Post by azdick on Apr 29, 2024 18:50:49 GMT -8
Don’t think I could be much more angry than I am right now. I have been a constant supporter of Elijah through the thick and thin of his being an Aztec. Today changed everything for me. He disrespected, in order of significance, (1) his teammates, (2) Dutch, (3) SDSU and (4) us fans and alumni. He has put the program at risk by waiting until the last possible moment entry to the Portal. How is Dutch supposed to fill that hole with what currently remains in the Portal pool? I am so disgusted with the whole nature of the new “system” that I no longer know what the “right” thing is for me to do. I want to be a good guardian of my school, but I no longer have a clear vision of what that means. Maybe if I chill for a day or two things will be a little more apparent. At this moment nothing is clear except that money controls everything and everything is bought and paid for with the foul stench of greenbacks.
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:01:05 GMT -8
Man, if Byrd and/or Reese hit the portal too, that might be the beginning of the end. **** it. Everyone who was a major piece on last years squad needs to be pushed out the door. It feels like their FF and S16 run made them feel as if they are due something. This move coupled with Butler and Parrishs' remarks make me think this Team had a bad attitude cause they weren't getting paid. They felt they were owed more. Byre, Waters, and anyone else. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Push them out. Let the young recruits kids play. Maybe, just maybe they want to play sone ball for a damned good Coaching Staff and get a marketable diploma from a good School. |
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Post by laaztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:04:42 GMT -8
Man, if Byrd and/or Reese hit the portal too, that might be the beginning of the end. **** it. Everyone who was a major piece on last years squad needs to be pushed out the door. It feels like their FF and S16 run made them feel as if they are due something. This move coupled with Butler and Parrishs' remarks make me think this Team had a bad attitude cause they weren't getting paid. They felt they were owed more. Byre, Waters, and anyone else. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Push them out. Let the young recruits kids play. Maybe, just maybe they want to play sone ball for a damned good Coaching Staff and get a marketable diploma from a good School. You are on to something with the attitude that they were owed something. |
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Post by mactec on Apr 29, 2024 19:09:27 GMT -8
Right, but for example, 15 of the top 25 PFs in the portal have already committed. By the time Dutcher even knew he needed to start looking for a replacement, 60% of his options are already gone. Dude get real. If we don’t have money for Saunders then we don’t have money for a top 15-25 PF. No player that we lost is top 80 in the portal, we will find a quality replacement. Defensive consistency will take a hit I couldn't find a website with the data point of exactly how many players are left in the portal. I went with the Top 25 to show that roughly 60% of PFs who have entered the portal have already signed with a new team. I didn't think it was worth my time to go through the top 250 PFs and tally them up. And sure: there's still some good players left in the portal that would fit into our team. But for every 1 good player still in the portal, there have been 1.5 guys who have already signed. |
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:13:42 GMT -8
Sucks. Elijah saw Parrish and Butler get paid. He wants the same. So obvious. We had a nice 15 year run. But it is probably over in terms of trying to compete with the big boys. It is over for the mid majors without large NIL Collectives. The smaller Schools could compete in the Tourney because they would build experienced rosters via player development and bringing in grad transfers. It's hard to compete when the bluebloods literally buy a team every year. I doubt SDSU will ever be competitive again. Even in the MW. UNM, Vegas, CSU, and Reno have larger collectives with far more money. Don't be surprised when this program reverts to mid-pack. We will only have the once a decade MW Tourney run, when the stars align, and will enter the Tourney as a play-in squad. Kids deserve the money. They are the product. The revolving door Transfer Portal has got to end. If you change Schools, you sign a two year commit unless you are a grad transfer. |
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:16:40 GMT -8
Well at least I'll probably have more emotional energy, time availability and discretionary income in my life as my Aztec obsession slowly fades into oblivion. Just think how freakin' close we were to getting into the PAC-12 and getting on the other side of all of this. We would not be on the other side of this. We simply don't have the $$$$ to compete with a revolving door transfer Portal. |
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Post by hoobs on Apr 29, 2024 19:22:13 GMT -8
Dude get real. If we don’t have money for Saunders then we don’t have money for a top 15-25 PF. No player that we lost is top 80 in the portal, we will find a quality replacement. Defensive consistency will take a hit I couldn't find a website with the data point of exactly how many players are left in the portal. I went with the Top 25 to show that roughly 60% of PFs who have entered the portal have already signed with a new team. I didn't think it was worth my time to go through the top 250 PFs and tally them up. And sure: there's still some good players left in the portal that would fit into our team. But for every 1 good player still in the portal, there have been 1.5 guys who have already signed. I disagree with this last bit... I think there are still a TON of great PFs out there. And SDSU is cetainly a top 20 program based on the last two season, with a very strong chance at returning to the Sweet 16 with 1 or 2 key additions / replacements. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 29, 2024 19:26:47 GMT -8
So was this guy wrong about there being more bad news or is it limited to the news of Saunders leaving? |
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Post by montezumaduck on Apr 29, 2024 19:28:23 GMT -8
So was this guy wrong about there being more bad news or is it limited to the news of Saunders leaving? Let's hope so. I've been checking Twitter nonstop hoping nothing else pops. |
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Post by bobbysavoy on Apr 29, 2024 19:29:13 GMT -8
What about G league players? Must be some quality players still eligible to play college.
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Post by aztecs2019 on Apr 29, 2024 19:31:43 GMT -8
Ohio State or Arizona about to poach another player?
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Post by aztecalum on Apr 29, 2024 19:34:40 GMT -8
This is a stupid thread and blaming Elijah is childish. The reality is SDSU is one of the better programs in the nation with one of the worst NIL programs in the country. For argument sake, if Dutcher was in his mid 50s and SDSU was paying him $2.0M tops and he realized his market value is $4.5M would we call him names for leaving for more than twice his pay?
Schools across the country realize SDSU produce team players, glue guys that know how to play defense and are physical. There is value in these players and the market has proved it, Keshad got $400K from Arizona, Parrish is getting $400K from Ohio State, etc. Butler said he would test the market to see if it was real and got a lucrative offer in 1 day! Elijah and other players would be foolish to not consider the money they are worth to simply keep locals happy. Are any of us willing to turn down a job from a competitor offering 3-5X current compensation package?
It's is a new ball game in college sports - pay to play. Stop crying and blaming players for making a decision to benefit from their craft.
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Post by aztecalum on Apr 29, 2024 19:37:21 GMT -8
Btw, wouldn't be surprised to see Dutcher retire within next 1 year. He cannot compete without NIL money which is not coming from the community.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Apr 29, 2024 19:40:46 GMT -8
This is a stupid thread and blaming Elijah is childish. The reality is SDSU is one of the better programs in the nation with one of the worst NIL programs in the country. For argument sake, if Dutcher was in his mid 50s and SDSU was paying him $2.0M tops and he realized his market value is $4.5M would we call him names for leaving for more than twice his pay? Schools across the country realize SDSU produce team players, glue guys that know how to play defense and are physical. There is value in these players and the market has proved it, Keshad got $400K from Arizona, Parrish is getting $400K from Ohio State, etc. Butler said he would test the market to see if it was real and got a lucrative offer in 1 day! Elijah and other players would be foolish to not consider the money they are worth to simply keep locals happy. Are any of us willing to turn down a job from a competitor offering 3-5X current compensation package? It's is a new ball game in college sports - pay to play. Stop crying and blaming players for making a decision to benefit from their craft. Painful, but true... |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:45:17 GMT -8
Don’t think I could be much more angry than I am right now. I have been a constant supporter of Elijah through the thick and thin of his being an Aztec. Today changed everything for me. He disrespected, in order of significance, (1) his teammates, (2) Dutch, (3) SDSU and (4) us fans and alumni. He has put the program at risk by waiting until the last possible moment entry to the Portal. How is Dutch supposed to fill that hole with what currently remains in the Portal pool? I am so disgusted with the whole nature of the new “system” that I no longer know what the “right” thing is for me to do. I want to be a good guardian of my school, but I no longer have a clear vision of what that means. Maybe if I chill for a day or two things will be a little more apparent. At this moment nothing is clear except that money controls everything and everything is bought and paid for with the foul stench of greenbacks. Yes, loyalty is out the door, for most, with this new structure. Most of them will now be playing more for money, than anything else. It's very, very sad. The days of people saying, "I like College sports A LOT more than Pro sports, because they're Amateurs, and have a sense of School Pride, and Loyalty, etc, are out the door. How can a player get hyped about their current school when they'll only be thinking about whether or not they should transfer out after the years over, and get more money elsewhere. I don't think it will really matter to many players whether they go to a school who had a losing record the year prior, and will stink again, since it will only matter how much money they'll make from said school. Big bummer. Like I said before, you can't look forward to the next year after the season is over, because you don't know who's coming back, especially for a school like SDSU. Friggin A. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 19:47:22 GMT -8
This is a stupid thread and blaming Elijah is childish. The reality is SDSU is one of the better programs in the nation with one of the worst NIL programs in the country. For argument sake, if Dutcher was in his mid 50s and SDSU was paying him $2.0M tops and he realized his market value is $4.5M would we call him names for leaving for more than twice his pay? Schools across the country realize SDSU produce team players, glue guys that know how to play defense and are physical. There is value in these players and the market has proved it, Keshad got $400K from Arizona, Parrish is getting $400K from Ohio State, etc. Butler said he would test the market to see if it was real and got a lucrative offer in 1 day! Elijah and other players would be foolish to not consider the money they are worth to simply keep locals happy. Are any of us willing to turn down a job from a competitor offering 3-5X current compensation package? It's is a new ball game in college sports - pay to play. Stop crying and blaming players for making a decision to benefit from their craft. Do you think his timing was not good? |
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