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Post by fisherville on Apr 16, 2024 15:19:20 GMT -8
It gets tougher to schedule OOC games when you increase your conference games by 2. Hopefully, the MWC will reverse that decision, and go back to an 18-game schedule.************ No it doesn't. Just drop st. Katherine and point Loma ( or the Just signed cal baptist) and you get available dates. You can continue to ignore the reality if you want. For revenue/season ticket reasons we will always have buy games without a return game. These games will continue to be on our schedule, if you want to continue to be oblivious as to the reasons they are on the schedule, go ahead. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 16, 2024 15:58:42 GMT -8
For non P6 teams your OOC is quite important especially Road and Neutral court games - so unfortunately those games come first for Dutcher when trying to put together a decent OOC schedule
This season not totally sure what T the Aztecs will be playing in and the competition
Dutcher also tries to schedule some 'warm up" games before SDSU plays more difficult opponents
many of the better PAC schools do not want to set up Home and away series with SDSU so getting the better schools from other areas and the travel is not always the easiest
Would guess that Dutcher did try to get some games while he was at the MM final or even during other rounds but not that simple
Might SDSU try to get some other WCC games who knows but what is the money they want or do they want a home and away
Think right now Dutcher is trying to work the Portal and hire another assistant coach
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 16, 2024 16:52:39 GMT -8
It gets tougher to schedule OOC games when you increase your conference games by 2. Hopefully, the MWC will reverse that decision, and go back to an 18-game schedule.************ No it doesn't. Just drop st. Katherine and point Loma ( or the Just signed cal baptist) and you get available dates. I agree. What you lose is a week of flexibility, possibly a weak warmup game, and the knowledge we'll have to go to Laramie. We booked 2 D2/D3 games last year out of necessity because we couldn't find a D1 team to fit our timeline. Had to get a waiver to do so. We also played GCU to appease an old contract, somethingwenormally won't do. We play 1 less D2 & play 1 less road noncon like GCU, replacing them with MWC games. The downside is the last week of Dec may be conference games instead of possibly a noncon. Hopefully, given most conferences are also at 20, we can find a good date for a team like Gonzaga earlier. Even the WCC is adding conference games. The key is getting 2-3 H/A contracts (Zags, BYU, Stanford, etc), a neutral site 1 off & a MTE (Acrisure Classic or NIL) & we'll be fine. |
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Post by Gundo on Apr 16, 2024 17:12:37 GMT -8
I agree. What you lose is a week of flexibility, possibly a weak warmup game, and the knowledge we'll have to go to Laramie. We booked 2 D2/D3 games last year out of necessity because we couldn't find a D1 team to fit our timeline. Had to get a waiver to do so. We also played GCU to appease an old contract, somethingwenormally won't do. We play 1 less D2 & play 1 less road noncon like GCU, replacing them with MWC games. The downside is the last week of Dec may be conference games instead of possibly a noncon. Hopefully, given most conferences are also at 20, we can find a good date for a team like Gonzaga earlier. Even the WCC is adding conference games. The key is getting 2-3 H/A contracts (Zags, BYU, Stanford, etc), a neutral site 1 off & a MTE (Acrisure Classic or NIL) & we'll be fine. Is there any new news on the Las Vegas NIL MTE, called the Players Era Tournament? And as of today, the only confirmed OOC games are Gonzaga & Cal Baptist, both at Viejas. (Not considering the MTEs that were attached to.) |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 16, 2024 18:31:45 GMT -8
It gets tougher to schedule OOC games when you increase your conference games by 2. Hopefully, the MWC will reverse that decision, and go back to an 18-game schedule.************ No it doesn't. Just drop st. Katherine and point Loma ( or the Just signed cal baptist) and you get available dates. I'm more concerned about the rest of the conference. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 16, 2024 19:02:30 GMT -8
It gets tougher to schedule OOC games when you increase your conference games by 2. Hopefully, the MWC will reverse that decision, and go back to an 18-game schedule.************ No it doesn't. Just drop st. Katherine and point Loma ( or the Just signed cal baptist) and you get available dates. Yeah, that's not how that works. |
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Post by hoobs on Apr 16, 2024 19:49:26 GMT -8
No it doesn't. Just drop st. Katherine and point Loma ( or the Just signed cal baptist) and you get available dates. Yeah, that's not how that works. Well, if someone wants to donate $250,000 or so for a couple semi-decent buy-games... |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 16, 2024 21:28:02 GMT -8
Is there any new news on the Las Vegas NIL MTE, called the Players Era Tournament? And as of today, the only confirmed OOC games are Gonzaga & Cal Baptist, both at Viejas. (Not considering the MTEs that were attached to.) I don't see it working out, personally. I've never heard of any tournament sponsorship clearing $8M, which they'd need to do to pay that out to the participating teams. Plus, some of the teams mentioned are already committed to other MTEs. Maybe it happens in 2025 but I'm not holding my breath for 2024. We're already committed to a really good MTE, with USC, SMC & ASU. SMC took a big hit today, but they still should be good. We should get 2 good games out of that, plus Zags & I'm sure Dutch will have 2 other H/A contract games as well. Not worried about our schedule. |
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Post by Gundo on Apr 17, 2024 10:51:33 GMT -8
I don't see it working out, personally. I've never heard of any tournament sponsorship clearing $8M, which they'd need to do to pay that out to the participating teams. Plus, some of the teams mentioned are already committed to other MTEs. Maybe it happens in 2025 but I'm not holding my breath for 2024. We're already committed to a really good MTE, with USC, SMC & ASU. SMC took a big hit today, but they still should be good. We should get 2 good games out of that, plus Zags & I'm sure Dutch will have 2 other H/A contract games as well. Not worried about our schedule. The Players Era Tournament is set to provide $1 million in NIL funds to each participating school, with additional winnings of $1 million for the victor. Alabama, Duke, Florida Atlantic, Houston, Kansas, Oregon, Rutgers, San Diego State, St. John’s, Syracuse, and Virginia are currently in discussions to join. However, for eight schools to commit, they would need to reevaluate their existing MTE commitments. Moreover, to cover just the NIL expenses, revenue generation would need to range between $8 to $10 million, exclusive of other essential costs like travel, accommodation, meals, and transportation fees. I can not see how the promoter's business model works in today's broadcast world. If anyone has insights on the business and broadcast model, please respond. Other considerations would be items like: -Broadcast Rights -Advertising and Sponsorships -Pay-Per-View or Subscription Models -Digital and Social Media support and shares -Fan Engagement and Interactive Content -Merchandising and Licensing |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 18, 2024 14:41:52 GMT -8
Apparently the Acrisure Classic revamped their lineup, replacing SDSU with New Mexico, to go along with USC, SMC & ASU.
The NIL tournament better happen or we could be screwed.
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Post by aztech on Apr 18, 2024 16:22:48 GMT -8
I don't see it working out, personally. I've never heard of any tournament sponsorship clearing $8M, which they'd need to do to pay that out to the participating teams. Plus, some of the teams mentioned are already committed to other MTEs. Maybe it happens in 2025 but I'm not holding my breath for 2024. We're already committed to a really good MTE, with USC, SMC & ASU. SMC took a big hit today, but they still should be good. We should get 2 good games out of that, plus Zags & I'm sure Dutch will have 2 other H/A contract games as well. Not worried about our schedule. The Players Era Tournament is set to provide $1 million in NIL funds to each participating school, with additional winnings of $1 million for the victor. Alabama, Duke, Florida Atlantic, Houston, Kansas, Oregon, Rutgers, San Diego State, St. John’s, Syracuse, and Virginia are currently in discussions to join. However, for eight schools to commit, they would need to reevaluate their existing MTE commitments. Moreover, to cover just the NIL expenses, revenue generation would need to range between $8 to $10 million, exclusive of other essential costs like travel, accommodation, meals, and transportation fees. I can not see how the promoter's business model works in today's broadcast world. If anyone has insights on the business and broadcast model, please respond. Other considerations would be items like: -Broadcast Rights -Advertising and Sponsorships -Pay-Per-View or Subscription Models -Digital and Social Media support and shares -Fan Engagement and Interactive Content -Merchandising and Licensing That's 11 teams, which is odd. So how many teams are they planning to select for this turnament? |
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Post by standiego on Apr 18, 2024 22:11:48 GMT -8
Did the Acrisure (sp) set up a few groups of 4 teams out of 12 to 16 teams or was it revised again
now you know why it is so difficult to set up an OOC schedule
What T was SDSU originally slated to be in ?
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Post by Gundo on Apr 18, 2024 22:29:36 GMT -8
Did the Acrisure (sp) set up a few groups of 4 teams out of 12 to 16 teams or was it revised again now you know why it is so difficult to set up an OOC schedule What T was SDSU originally slated to be in ? It looks like we are going to the MTE in Vegas baby. The 2024 Acrisure Classic will include 6 teams this year with Cal Poly and Grambling as travel teams to round out the event, added to their OOC. The four teams in the on-site tournament include the USC Trojans (Big Ten), the Arizona State Sun Devils (Big 12), the Saint Mary's Gaels (West Coast Conference), and the UNM Lobos (Mountain West). On-Campus Schedule:
11/20 Cal Poly at Arizona St., Grambling at USC 11/23 Grambling at New Mexico, Cal Poly at Saint Mary's 11/26 Grambling at Cal Poly Broadcast information and game times for Nov. 28 and 29 have not been released. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 19, 2024 8:59:25 GMT -8
is there a final list of teams that will be in the Basketball T that SDSU will be in and dates
also looks as though the Lobos - who could be projected as one of the top teams in MW are playing some decent teams in their T
Zags are rated #7 in some early polls as they return numerous players
By the way Coug - realize the WSU and OSU will be in MW for Football and in the WCC for basketball
any type of updates about developing the New PAC for whatever year
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Post by Gundo on Apr 19, 2024 9:18:12 GMT -8
is there a final list of teams that will be in the Basketball T that SDSU will be in and dates also looks as though the Lobos - who could be projected as one of the top teams in MW are playing some decent teams in their T Zags are rated #7 in some early polls as they return numerous players Stan, the short answer is no. We do not have the OOC or the MWC schedules (teams/dates) Here's what most are saying on this site. 11 OOC - Games- Cal Baptist 12/11 @viejas - Gonzaga TBD @viejas - 1x projected MTE - Players Era NIL Tournament in Las Vegas = 3 games - 2x TBD Home and home series = 2 games - 4x additional games: buy or neutral court = 4 games Total = 1120 MWC - Games- 10 @viejas - 10 @away Total = 20X MWC - Tournament - Post-season @las Vegas Total = 1 to 3 Grand Total = 31 to 33 games, but there is ambiguity and much work left to be completed. Matt Soria runs point with Dutch & Staff on scheduling. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 19, 2024 9:27:34 GMT -8
thank you
any verification about what teams will be in the T in Vegas and if it will be in November
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Post by Gundo on Apr 19, 2024 9:37:13 GMT -8
The Players Era Tournament is set to provide $1 million in NIL funds to each participating school, with additional winnings of $1 million for the victor. Alabama, Duke, Florida Atlantic, Houston, Kansas, Oregon, Rutgers, San Diego State, St. John’s, Syracuse, and Virginia are currently in discussions to join. However, for eight schools to commit, they would need to reevaluate their existing MTE commitments. Moreover, to cover just the NIL expenses, revenue generation would need to range between $8 to $10 million, exclusive of other essential costs like travel, accommodation, meals, and transportation fees. I can not see how the promoter's business model works in today's broadcast world. If anyone has insights on the business and broadcast model, please respond. Other considerations would be items like: -Broadcast Rights -Advertising and Sponsorships -Pay-Per-View or Subscription Models -Digital and Social Media support and shares -Fan Engagement and Interactive Content -Merchandising and Licensing That's 11 teams, which is odd. So how many teams are they planning to select for this tournament? Good Question, all I can say is, we will see. The NL event has not been finalized, and there are many loose ends, about broadcast rights, school selection, and revenue shares. |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 20, 2024 9:26:14 GMT -8
The Players Era Tournament is set to provide $1 million in NIL funds to each participating school, with additional winnings of $1 million for the victor. Alabama, Duke, Florida Atlantic, Houston, Kansas, Oregon, Rutgers, San Diego State, St. John’s, Syracuse, and Virginia are currently in discussions to join. However, for eight schools to commit, they would need to reevaluate their existing MTE commitments. Moreover, to cover just the NIL expenses, revenue generation would need to range between $8 to $10 million, exclusive of other essential costs like travel, accommodation, meals, and transportation fees. I can not see how the promoter's business model works in today's broadcast world. If anyone has insights on the business and broadcast model, please respond. Other considerations would be items like: -Broadcast Rights -Advertising and Sponsorships -Pay-Per-View or Subscription Models -Digital and Social Media support and shares -Fan Engagement and Interactive Content -Merchandising and Licensing That's 11 teams, which is odd. So how many teams are they planning to select for this turnament? Thought I read it was 8 teams in year 1. I'm still very skeptical of the Financials. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 20, 2024 9:30:37 GMT -8
That's 11 teams, which is odd. So how many teams are they planning to select for this turnament? Thought I read it was 8 teams in year 1. I'm still very skeptical of the Financials. That's right, 8 teams. You're seeing 11 teams in discussions right now and of those 8 will be picked. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 20, 2024 11:10:58 GMT -8
Would be beneficial for SDSU to find out if it is in that T - so Dutcher can continue to set up the OOC
SDSU used to have I think a 4 T rotation if SDSU goes to that T what T gets dropped ?
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