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Mar 31, 2024 16:47:53 GMT -8
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Post by chris92065 on Mar 31, 2024 16:47:53 GMT -8
I went to numerous Bruin games in the Alcindor era. In my opinion, best NCAA teams ever. I agree. In my opinion, John Wooden was the best coach in any sport ever. His NCAA Tournament record speaks for itself. Red Auerbach is right up there. |
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Post by fastaztec on Mar 31, 2024 17:42:41 GMT -8
I agree. In my opinion, John Wooden was the best coach in any sport ever. His NCAA Tournament record speaks for itself. Red Auerbach is right up there. ************* It helped that he had the best players in the free world thanks to Sam Gilbert. The father of NIL! |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 31, 2024 20:41:02 GMT -8
Remember Boylen Mad from Utah, he got the AZTECS fans into the: "get off the court" chant.
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Apr 1, 2024 15:49:48 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Apr 1, 2024 15:49:48 GMT -8
Let’s not be hasty and crown them just yet. I agree with everyone but the still have to finish it. Haven’t done the legwork but I certainly don’t remember the 1976 Indiana team winning like this. Eh I'll crown them. They are significantly better then Purdue. Purdue doesn't run good enough offensive sets, and their perimeter shooting is inconsistent. UCONN has perimeter weapons and Clingon. Both teams have good defense, but frankly Clingon is quicker and a better defender (Edy is better on offense). UCONN has a lottery pick and four other players who could be drafted in the second round. Purdue has Edy, who isn't even a lock to be drafted. If we played Purdue it would be a close game. My prediction is that UCONN beats Purdue by 10+, the key difference in the game being outside shooting. |
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Apr 1, 2024 17:59:26 GMT -8
Post by hoobs on Apr 1, 2024 17:59:26 GMT -8
Let’s not be hasty and crown them just yet. I agree with everyone but the still have to finish it. Haven’t done the legwork but I certainly don’t remember the 1976 Indiana team winning like this. Eh I'll crown them. They are significantly better then Purdue. Purdue doesn't run good enough offensive sets, and their perimeter shooting is inconsistent. UCONN has perimeter weapons and Clingon. Both teams have good defense, but frankly Clingon is quicker and a better defender (Edy is better on offense). UCONN has a lottery pick and four other players who could be drafted in the second round. Purdue has Edy, who isn't even a lock to be drafted. If we played Purdue it would be a close game. My prediction is that UCONN beats Purdue by 10+, the key difference in the game being outside shooting. I think UConn wins the final by ~20, or is up by ~20 with 3 mins left when they pull everyone I also think they might be playing against NC State, not Purdue |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 2, 2024 6:08:52 GMT -8
Eh I'll crown them. They are significantly better then Purdue. Purdue doesn't run good enough offensive sets, and their perimeter shooting is inconsistent. UCONN has perimeter weapons and Clingon. Both teams have good defense, but frankly Clingon is quicker and a better defender (Edy is better on offense). UCONN has a lottery pick and four other players who could be drafted in the second round. Purdue has Edy, who isn't even a lock to be drafted. If we played Purdue it would be a close game. My prediction is that UCONN beats Purdue by 10+, the key difference in the game being outside shooting. I think UConn wins the final by ~20, or is up by ~20 with 3 mins left when they pull everyone I also think they might be playing against NC State, not Purdue That's a possibility. The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in the paint for NCSU is a load. Dude is Fred Astaire in the paint and has a soft touch on his shot. He could possibly neutralize Edey. Wouldn't be surprised, however, I still think Purdue gets through. As for UConn, it's not just Clingan and outside shooting. It's all their great rebounding, passing, cutting, give-and-goes, athleticism, etc., etc. I think Clingan is probably the only big in the country able to match up with Edey. After that, it's UConn's remaining four and bench against Purdue's remaining four and bench, which UConn should outperform by a mile. |
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 6, 2024 17:48:40 GMT -8
I still expect UConn will win this game, but we’re seeing a blueprint on how to compete with the upper echelon of CBB by Bama. You have to have shooters. You have to be able to match twos with threes. Being great defensively is a significant component, but you have to be able to score a lot.
There was an interesting quote from Dan Hurley they mentioned earlier in the broadcast. “We were just a defensive team until Karaban got here.” That's where we are—a defensive team. Outside of the Malachi Flynn year, we’re elite on defense and slightly above average offensively. I’m so happy with where we are as a program. It’s amazing. But, to make the next step we have to find kids that can score. Even if they’re not an A+ defender, we’ll hope they get here and improve. The only way to compete with these CBB monsters is to score with them.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2024 19:37:01 GMT -8
I still expect UConn will win this game, but we’re seeing a blueprint on how to compete with the upper echelon of CBB by Bama. You have to have shooters. You have to be able to match twos with threes. Being great defensively is a significant component, but you have to be able to score a lot. There was an interesting quote from Dan Hurley they mentioned earlier in the broadcast. “We were just a defensive team until Karaban got here.” That's where we are—a defensive team. Outside of the Malachi Flynn year, we’re elite on defense and slightly above average offensively. I’m so happy with where we are as a program. It’s amazing. But, to make the next step we have to find kids that can score. Even if they’re not an A+ defender, we’ll hope they get here and improve. The only way to compete with these CBB monsters is to score with them. Yes, Matt Bradley helped us a ton in that regard. We need another player like that. Hopefully Gwath can be that guy for us next year as well. |
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Apr 6, 2024 19:48:06 GMT -8
Post by sdsuballer on Apr 6, 2024 19:48:06 GMT -8
I still expect UConn will win this game, but we’re seeing a blueprint on how to compete with the upper echelon of CBB by Bama. You have to have shooters. You have to be able to match twos with threes. Being great defensively is a significant component, but you have to be able to score a lot. There was an interesting quote from Dan Hurley they mentioned earlier in the broadcast. “We were just a defensive team until Karaban got here.” That's where we are—a defensive team. Outside of the Malachi Flynn year, we’re elite on defense and slightly above average offensively. I’m so happy with where we are as a program. It’s amazing. But, to make the next step we have to find kids that can score. Even if they’re not an A+ defender, we’ll hope they get here and improve. The only way to compete with these CBB monsters is to score with them. Yes, Matt Bradley helped us a ton in that regard. We need another player like that. Hopefully Gwath can be that guy for us next year as well. Next year we need two dead eye shooter. A guy that can shot the ball 80% when wide open during practice because once a hand goes up that percentage is cut in half. We need a Malichi Flynn type of player.Butler needs to get better at making his wide open 3's and work on finishing around the rim. We also need a rebounder. I don't think Saunders has the knack to get 8-10 rebounds a night. |
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Apr 6, 2024 21:33:51 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2024 21:33:51 GMT -8
One of the other things that sticks out to me (watching UCONN run its offense) is how much they spread the floor for each other.
The shooters on the perimeter are 3 feet away from the 3 point line as if they were playing in the NBA.
This really limits pack-line type defenses that sag off ball to limit driving lanes, help on ball and intercept passes.
With the way UCONN spaces the floor, all of a sudden you're either helping to leave a man open, or you aren't helping.
It also lets players step into 3's if they want to, and it allows more floor space in the pick and roll.
I would like to see us try this type of spacing more next year, as guys like Saunders and Byrd can make long 3's anyways.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 6, 2024 21:42:36 GMT -8
One of the other things that sticks out to me (watching UCONN run its offense) is how much they spread the floor for each other. The shooters on the perimeter are 3 feet away from the 3 point line as if they were playing in the NBA. This really limits pack-line type defenses that sag off ball to limit driving lanes, help on ball and intercept passes. With the way UCONN spaces the floor, all of a sudden you're either helping to leave a man open, or you aren't helping. It also lets players step into 3's if they want to, and it allows more floor space in the pick and roll. I would like to see us try this type of spacing more next year, as guys like Saunders and Byrd can make long 3's anyways. Yeah, they're such an efficient, well oiled machine. |
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Apr 7, 2024 7:50:35 GMT -8
Post by longtimebooster on Apr 7, 2024 7:50:35 GMT -8
I still expect UConn will win this game, but we’re seeing a blueprint on how to compete with the upper echelon of CBB by Bama. You have to have shooters. You have to be able to match twos with threes. Being great defensively is a significant component, but you have to be able to score a lot. There was an interesting quote from Dan Hurley they mentioned earlier in the broadcast. “We were just a defensive team until Karaban got here.” That's where we are—a defensive team. Outside of the Malachi Flynn year, we’re elite on defense and slightly above average offensively. I’m so happy with where we are as a program. It’s amazing. But, to make the next step we have to find kids that can score. Even if they’re not an A+ defender, we’ll hope they get here and improve. The only way to compete with these CBB monsters is to score with them. Not sure why everyone is hung up on our offense this year. Yes, we didn't have the shooters. And our big four shooters all underperformed from last year -- Butler, Trammell, Parrish and Waters. Got it. But our second biggest problem was clearly our lack of a true center in the paint for both rebounding and rim protection. One of the big reasons we had such a great run last year was our defense. We had a solid, Top 20 defense this season. But last year's defense was beyond elite. If you recall, we started the year a little discombobulated, especially after the Maui tournament, where we got killed on the boards a couple times and gave up some big leads. But the defense then gelled. And from Jan. 1 through April 3, SDSU had the No. 1 defense in the country. We gave UConn hell for 35 minutes before we missed a couple free throws and a couple wide-open threes. That's all the opening the Huskies needed to put the game away. For comparison, Alabama hung with UConn for about 30 minutes before the roof started to fall in. So I wouldn't say Bama did a better job than SDSU against the Huskies. We already know how to hang with the Big Boys and Blue Bloods. It takes a complete team -- shooters, ball handlers, rebounders, defenders. We were missing a couple pieces on this team this year, namely a rim protector in the paint and some reliable shooters -- if our four shooters had just improved slightly rather than regressed, we'd have probably won another 3 to 5 games. However, we'd have still gotten clobbered by the likes of UConn and/or Purdue. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 7, 2024 8:00:53 GMT -8
Aztecs got beat by a very good UCONN team
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USU got beat by a good Purdue team
sure helps to have a good 5 that is 7 ft or taller and then when you have a decent three point shooter or two -
the tall guys also make the opposing team alter their shots
also assists the team when you can put in a decent back up to keep the offense and defense
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Apr 7, 2024 8:19:01 GMT -8
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 7, 2024 8:19:01 GMT -8
Aztecs got beat by a very good UCONN team and USU got beat by a good Purdue team sure helps to have a good 5 that is 7 ft or taller and then when you have a decent three point shooter or two - the tall guys also make the opposing team alter their shots also assists the team when you can put in a decent back up to keep the offense and defense Agree., The guard play is almost equal. The difference was height down low. We needed to get 1 more big man. |
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Apr 7, 2024 8:43:49 GMT -8
Post by smoothcat on Apr 7, 2024 8:43:49 GMT -8
Aztecs got beat by a very good UCONN team and USU got beat by a good Purdue team sure helps to have a good 5 that is 7 ft or taller and then when you have a decent three point shooter or two - the tall guys also make the opposing team alter their shots also assists the team when you can put in a decent back up to keep the offense and defense And in New Mexico's defense, NC State was also a Final Four team. |
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Apr 7, 2024 12:00:10 GMT -8
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 7, 2024 12:00:10 GMT -8
I still expect UConn will win this game, but we’re seeing a blueprint on how to compete with the upper echelon of CBB by Bama. You have to have shooters. You have to be able to match twos with threes. Being great defensively is a significant component, but you have to be able to score a lot. There was an interesting quote from Dan Hurley they mentioned earlier in the broadcast. “We were just a defensive team until Karaban got here.” That's where we are—a defensive team. Outside of the Malachi Flynn year, we’re elite on defense and slightly above average offensively. I’m so happy with where we are as a program. It’s amazing. But, to make the next step we have to find kids that can score. Even if they’re not an A+ defender, we’ll hope they get here and improve. The only way to compete with these CBB monsters is to score with them. Not sure why everyone is hung up on our offense this year. Yes, we didn't have the shooters. And our big four shooters all underperformed from last year -- Butler, Trammell, Parrish and Waters. Got it. But our second biggest problem was clearly our lack of a true center in the paint for both rebounding and rim protection. One of the big reasons we had such a great run last year was our defense. We had a solid, Top 20 defense this season. But last year's defense was beyond elite. If you recall, we started the year a little discombobulated, especially after the Maui tournament, where we got killed on the boards a couple times and gave up some big leads. But the defense then gelled. And from Jan. 1 through April 3, SDSU had the No. 1 defense in the country. We gave UConn hell for 35 minutes before we missed a couple free throws and a couple wide-open threes. That's all the opening the Huskies needed to put the game away. For comparison, Alabama hung with UConn for about 30 minutes before the roof started to fall in. So I wouldn't say Bama did a better job than SDSU against the Huskies. We already know how to hang with the Big Boys and Blue Bloods. It takes a complete team -- shooters, ball handlers, rebounders, defenders. We were missing a couple pieces on this team this year, namely a rim protector in the paint and some reliable shooters -- if our four shooters had just improved slightly rather than regressed, we'd have probably won another 3 to 5 games. However, we'd have still gotten clobbered by the likes of UConn and/or Purdue. We got beat by 30 by Uconn. If you're talking last year, I'd still say Bama played Uconn closer. Not having any consistent shooters is a major issue that we should get hung up on. You can't win without this in today's game. Yes, I agree that rebounding is probably the second biggest issue. The best way to hide a poor offensive team is to get multiple attempts per possession. Uconn can withstand poor shooting because they're always outrebounding their opponent. The reason we beat FAU was because of offensive rebounding. Hurley used the term “bulletproof” to describe his team. Meaning, they can win in multiple ways. If they're hitting shots, they'll run you out of the gym, if they're cold, they'll beat you with multiple possessions and defense. Right now, we aren't bulletproof. We're very good but not bulletproof. The Covid team was the closest version. Right now, in the portal, we must address the shooting. We have Bigs coming in to help with the boards. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 7, 2024 18:05:20 GMT -8
We got beat by 30 by Uconn. If you're talking last year, I'd still say Bama played Uconn closer. Not having any consistent shooters is a major issue that we should get hung up on. You can't win without this in today's game. Yes, I agree that rebounding is probably the second biggest issue. The best way to hide a poor offensive team is to get multiple attempts per possession. Uconn can withstand poor shooting because they're always outrebounding their opponent. The reason we beat FAU was because of offensive rebounding. Hurley used the term “bulletproof” to describe his team. Meaning, they can win in multiple ways. If they're hitting shots, they'll run you out of the gym, if they're cold, they'll beat you with multiple possessions and defense. Right now, we aren't bulletproof. We're very good but not bulletproof. The Covid team was the closest version. Right now, in the portal, we must address the shooting. We have Bigs coming in to help with the boards. You just seem so p*ssed and angry for a fan whose team made the Sweet 16 -- something 336 other D1 teams can't say they'd done. And, no, Bama didn't play UConn closer this year than the Aztecs played them last year. With 5 minutes remaining last year in the Championship game, SDSU was down 5 points, after holding UConn scoreless for multiple 2- and 3-minute stretches. I was there. The game was starting to have the feel of the previous FAU game in which SDSU's No. 1-ranked defense completely locked FAU down over the final 8 minutes, during which they scored one basket and a couple free throws. Then Hawkins, UConn's NBA Lottery Pick, buried a three at the 5:04 mark, and that was the ball game. Bama was down 10 at the 5-minute mark and the roof fell in shortly afterward, just as it fell in on SDSU the previous year -- and this year, too, though much earlier in the game. UConn beat Bama by 14 this year and SDSU by 17 last year. I wouldn't say Bama had any more luck against UConn with their No. 1 offense than SDSU had with their No. 1 defense. Go figure. As far SDSU's deficiencies, yes, they absolutely need better shooters. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. They also need a couple of bigs, which they have waiting in the wings. Regarding comparing recent versions of Aztec squads on offense and defense, here are some interesting Kenpom rankings to ponder: 2024 63, Offense 11, Defense 2023 75, Offense 4, Defense (No. 1 from Jan. 1 through April 3) 2020 11, Offense 10, Defense I've always contended that the 2020 Flynn team was the best Aztec team ever. It was a legit National Champion contender, especially had Mensah been able to return to the lineup as several coaches claimed he was ready to do for the Tournament. But as much as you seem to be bored with great defense, you need to know that the reason last year's team got as far as it did, was because it had a super-elite defense and could lock teams down at will. This year's team was actually better on offense, but they really couldn't pound the boards and swat shots like the 2023 team, especially when needed in crunch time, hence all the close losses. As for Alabama, they had the No. 1 offense in the country, yet met the same fate as the 2023 Aztecs. They were simply the other side of the coin, focused on offense and not so much defense. |
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Apr 7, 2024 18:25:26 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 7, 2024 18:25:26 GMT -8
If you don't have good outside shooters, and you're known for the dribble drive to get to the line, it's tough to beat Purdue because of the big man in the middle. Heck, just his mere presence has players simply chucking it up from four feet, hoping it doesn't get swatted.
Having said that, UCONN obviously has it all, and they also have a guy in the middle that trembles fear in the opponent if they from within 5 feet of the guy.
UConn wins, because they don't need to drive. They can just three and two you to death. They also have a very good defense. Dang they're loaded!!!
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Apr 7, 2024 19:21:52 GMT -8
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Post by sdaztec4life on Apr 7, 2024 19:21:52 GMT -8
Aztecs got beat by a very good UCONN team and USU got beat by a good Purdue team sure helps to have a good 5 that is 7 ft or taller and then when you have a decent three point shooter or two - the tall guys also make the opposing team alter their shots also assists the team when you can put in a decent back up to keep the offense and defense And in New Mexico's defense, NC State was also a Final Four team. New Mexico didn’t play NC State, they got worked by Clemson. |
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 8, 2024 7:51:57 GMT -8
We got beat by 30 by Uconn. If you're talking last year, I'd still say Bama played Uconn closer. Not having any consistent shooters is a major issue that we should get hung up on. You can't win without this in today's game. Yes, I agree that rebounding is probably the second biggest issue. The best way to hide a poor offensive team is to get multiple attempts per possession. Uconn can withstand poor shooting because they're always outrebounding their opponent. The reason we beat FAU was because of offensive rebounding. Hurley used the term “bulletproof” to describe his team. Meaning, they can win in multiple ways. If they're hitting shots, they'll run you out of the gym, if they're cold, they'll beat you with multiple possessions and defense. Right now, we aren't bulletproof. We're very good but not bulletproof. The Covid team was the closest version. Right now, in the portal, we must address the shooting. We have Bigs coming in to help with the boards. You just seem so p*ssed and angry for a fan whose team made the Sweet 16 -- something 336 other D1 teams can't say they'd done. And, no, Bama didn't play UConn closer this year than the Aztecs played them last year. With 5 minutes remaining last year in the Championship game, SDSU was down 5 points, after holding UConn scoreless for multiple 2- and 3-minute stretches. I was there. The game was starting to have the feel of the previous FAU game in which SDSU's No. 1-ranked defense completely locked FAU down over the final 8 minutes, during which they scored one basket and a couple free throws. Then Hawkins, UConn's NBA Lottery Pick, buried a three at the 5:04 mark, and that was the ball game. Bama was down 10 at the 5-minute mark and the roof fell in shortly afterward, just as it fell in on SDSU the previous year -- and this year, too, though much earlier in the game. UConn beat Bama by 14 this year and SDSU by 17 last year. I wouldn't say Bama had any more luck against UConn with their No. 1 offense than SDSU had with their No. 1 defense. Go figure. As far SDSU's deficiencies, yes, they absolutely need better shooters. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. They also need a couple of bigs, which they have waiting in the wings. Regarding comparing recent versions of Aztec squads on offense and defense, here are some interesting Kenpom rankings to ponder: 2024 63, Offense 11, Defense 2023 75, Offense 4, Defense (No. 1 from Jan. 1 through April 3) 2020 11, Offense 10, Defense I've always contended that the 2020 Flynn team was the best Aztec team ever. It was a legit National Champion contender, especially had Mensah been able to return to the lineup as several coaches claimed he was ready to do for the Tournament. But as much as you seem to be bored with great defense, you need to know that the reason last year's team got as far as it did, was because it had a super-elite defense and could lock teams down at will. This year's team was actually better on offense, but they really couldn't pound the boards and swat shots like the 2023 team, especially when needed in crunch time, hence all the close losses. As for Alabama, they had the No. 1 offense in the country, yet met the same fate as the 2023 Aztecs. They were simply the other side of the coin, focused on offense and not so much defense. Please tell me where I seem angry and pissed? I said our team was “very good” in the same post you're quoting. What Dutcher and team have done is incredible. You seem angry and ready to jump down someone's throat,not me. I'm bringing up some thoughts on how SDSU can improve in the future, none of which (getting better offensively) seem controversial. Take a deep breath and stop looking for fights. |
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