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Post by MrPerfect on Mar 8, 2024 21:52:02 GMT -8
Let's talk about next year team since we're likely looking at 1 or 2 games and done in the tournament. Who will be back from the three in Butler, Parrish, and Waters? Personally, I'm hoping that only Butler comes back so that we can get two additional scholarship. This team need more shooters/scorers badly. Dutch should evaluate how UConn is building their team. Year in and year out they always recruit good shooters and at least 7ft center.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Mar 8, 2024 22:19:00 GMT -8
Way too early for this thread. Still a lot of hoops to be played.
However, I wouldn't count out Waters. Dutcher knows what's going on with him, health or whatever. If coach thinks he's fine to come back, then I'm all for it. Plus, UConn has plenty of NIL money to pass out during recruiting, so if you want to be like them, I hope you're willing to contribute.
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Post by zurac315 on Mar 8, 2024 22:38:05 GMT -8
Way too early for this thread. Still a lot of hoops to be played. However, I wouldn't count out Waters. Dutcher knows what's going on with him, health or whatever. If coach thinks he's fine to come back, then I'm all for it. Plus, UConn has plenty of NIL money to pass out during recruiting, so if you want to be like them, I hope you're willing to contribute. In the long run NIL is going to hurt schools like ours badly. |
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Post by junior on Mar 8, 2024 22:55:00 GMT -8
Dutcher may rue the day he re-upped, but if it's guaranteed, then he can hang in there. Sure won't hurt his CalPERS, either.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Mar 8, 2024 22:59:33 GMT -8
Way too early for this thread. Still a lot of hoops to be played. However, I wouldn't count out Waters. Dutcher knows what's going on with him, health or whatever. If coach thinks he's fine to come back, then I'm all for it. Plus, UConn has plenty of NIL money to pass out during recruiting, so if you want to be like them, I hope you're willing to contribute. In the long run NIL is going to hurt schools like ours badly. It’s already hurt us badly. Keshad and 3-4 good 5s that would’ve come here but were offered substantial NIL to play elsewhere. Worse timing ever, we got zero bump from going to the NCAAT NC game. If there were no NIL, I think we land a stud 5 and another stud wing (probably don’t offer Jay Pal or give Cade a scholarship). We could’ve brought in 3 more/different guys that would’ve been very good. NIL really hurt us. PS - in today’s NCAA & NBA, you just can not have guys that can’t shoot/score on a consistent basis. It’s great our D can really shut down the other team, but you need to be able to score … and these days you need to shoot and score more than ever before. This putrid, stand around, pointless O has gotta change. |
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Post by azman on Mar 8, 2024 23:14:06 GMT -8
Dutcher may rue the day he re-upped, but if it's guaranteed, then he can hang in there. Sure won't hurt his CalPERS, either. You think he will regret signing a guaranteed, multi-million dollar contract while also living in San Diego?! |
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Post by aztecking on Mar 8, 2024 23:14:35 GMT -8
Way too early for this thread. Still a lot of hoops to be played. However, I wouldn't count out Waters. Dutcher knows what's going on with him, health or whatever. If coach thinks he's fine to come back, then I'm all for it. Plus, UConn has plenty of NIL money to pass out during recruiting, so if you want to be like them, I hope you're willing to contribute. In the long run NIL is going to hurt schools like ours badly. Won’t even take the long run, it already happened this year. Losing Johnson and being rejected by every decent 5 were directly tied to NIL and it ensured the team wouldn’t be great. |
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Post by docmm on Mar 9, 2024 6:47:46 GMT -8
And now that he big boys have learned the logistics of the NIL-game even better, those tens of millions of extra $ they have, will steal just about any good D-II and non-Power 5 D-1 players. 4 of the top 5 scorers in the SEC this year were transfers from mid-majors last year.
I think schools and leagues like ours will just become minor-league farm systems for the grown-ups at the table. Without NIL$ and the clusterf*ck of getting screwed out of going to the PAC12 happening, we could have been on our way to becoming the next Gonzaga. Not a chance now.
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Post by sdsuballer on Mar 9, 2024 7:09:53 GMT -8
In the long run NIL is going to hurt schools like ours badly. It’s already hurt us badly. Keshad and 3-4 good 5s that would’ve come here but were offered substantial NIL to play elsewhere. Worse timing ever, we got zero bump from going to the NCAAT NC game. If there were no NIL, I think we land a stud 5 and another stud wing (probably don’t offer Jay Pal or give Cade a scholarship). We could’ve brought in 3 more/different guys that would’ve been very good. NIL really hurt us. PS - in today’s NCAA & NBA, you just can not have guys that can’t shoot/score on a consistent basis. It’s great our D can really shut down the other team, but you need to be able to score … and these days you need to shoot and score more than ever before. This putrid, stand around, pointless O has gotta change. KJ left because he wanted a bigger role in the offense. Wanted an offense that was more up tempo that would show case his skills. Lets not confuse the situation. Did he get NIL yes but we could have matched. Everything next year will revolved around our offense. If there is no changes than we are going to run down the program like Rocky Long did not by developing a serviceable offense and QB. |
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Post by aztecking on Mar 9, 2024 7:12:34 GMT -8
And now that he big boys have learned the logistics of the NIL-game even better, those tens of millions of extra $ they have, will steal just about any good D-II and non-Power 5 D-1 players. 4 of the top 5 scorers in the SEC this year were transfers from mid-majors last year. I think schools and leagues like ours will just become minor-league farm systems for the grown-ups at the table. Without NIL$ and the clusterf*ck of getting screwed out of going to the PAC12 happening, we could have been on our way to becoming the next Gonzaga. Not a chance now. At least we made our magically run right under the wire at the beginning of the NIL fiasco. We will always have that. |
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Post by aztecking on Mar 9, 2024 7:14:18 GMT -8
It’s already hurt us badly. Keshad and 3-4 good 5s that would’ve come here but were offered substantial NIL to play elsewhere. Worse timing ever, we got zero bump from going to the NCAAT NC game. If there were no NIL, I think we land a stud 5 and another stud wing (probably don’t offer Jay Pal or give Cade a scholarship). We could’ve brought in 3 more/different guys that would’ve been very good. NIL really hurt us. PS - in today’s NCAA & NBA, you just can not have guys that can’t shoot/score on a consistent basis. It’s great our D can really shut down the other team, but you need to be able to score … and these days you need to shoot and score more than ever before. This putrid, stand around, pointless O has gotta change. KJ left because he wanted a bigger role in the offense. Wanted an offense that was more up tempo that would show case his skills. Lets not confuse the situation. Did he get NIL yes but we could have matched. Everything next year will revolved around our offense. If there is no changes than we are going to run down the program like Rocky Long did not by developing a serviceable offense and QB. We could not have matched KJ’s NIL offer. He got somewhere around $400k and a car and a house for his family for the year. It’s just a simple fact that we could not afford that. Also our NIL is designed to give every player the same amount. |
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Post by NCAztec82 on Mar 9, 2024 7:26:20 GMT -8
Dutcher may rue the day he re-upped, but if it's guaranteed, then he can hang in there. Sure won't hurt his CalPERS, either. You think he will regret signing a guaranteed, multi-million dollar contract while also living in San Diego?! no |
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Post by jpaztec on Mar 9, 2024 8:32:47 GMT -8
We'll have a solid core with Byrd, Saunders, Heide, probably Waters, maybe Parrish, maybe Lamont, but a lot of our success will come with our two bigs who we've never seen play before. Hopefully a big offseason for them to add weight and college toughness will be a benefit, but I'm certain there will be a significant learning curve with them, similar to Miles Byrds. A great play here and there will wow us, but there will likely be a lot of face palm's in the process. I feel like DeGourville and Compton as frosh both bring what we lack this year which is toughness, so I suspect we'll see them get some run too. A PG and scoring guard should be top of Dutch's off season transfer shopping list, as well as an experienced big man.
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Post by ramrodd23 on Mar 9, 2024 9:31:03 GMT -8
It’s already hurt us badly. Keshad and 3-4 good 5s that would’ve come here but were offered substantial NIL to play elsewhere. Worse timing ever, we got zero bump from going to the NCAAT NC game. If there were no NIL, I think we land a stud 5 and another stud wing (probably don’t offer Jay Pal or give Cade a scholarship). We could’ve brought in 3 more/different guys that would’ve been very good. NIL really hurt us. PS - in today’s NCAA & NBA, you just can not have guys that can’t shoot/score on a consistent basis. It’s great our D can really shut down the other team, but you need to be able to score … and these days you need to shoot and score more than ever before. This putrid, stand around, pointless O has gotta change. KJ left because he wanted a bigger role in the offense. Wanted an offense that was more up tempo that would show case his skills. Lets not confuse the situation. Did he get NIL yes but we could have matched. Everything next year will revolved around our offense. If there is no changes than we are going to run down the program like Rocky Long did not by developing a serviceable offense and QB. KJ left for money. Period. He is the 4th option on that Arizona team. |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Mar 9, 2024 9:34:31 GMT -8
We'll have a solid core with Byrd, Saunders, Heide, probably Waters, maybe Parrish, maybe Lamont, but a lot of our success will come with our two bigs who we've never seen play before. Hopefully a big offseason for them to add weight and college toughness will be a benefit, but I'm certain there will be a significant learning curve with them, similar to Miles Byrds. A great play here and there will wow us, but there will likely be a lot of face palm's in the process. I feel like DeGourville and Compton as frosh both bring what we lack this year which is toughness, so I suspect we'll see them get some run too. A PG and scoring guard should be top of Dutch's off season transfer shopping list, as well as an experienced big man. PG yes as a top list. But a senior center is right next to a PG. Which is hard to get. SG don’t really need if Waters comes back. |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Mar 9, 2024 9:36:25 GMT -8
KJ left because he wanted a bigger role in the offense. Wanted an offense that was more up tempo that would show case his skills. Lets not confuse the situation. Did he get NIL yes but we could have matched. Everything next year will revolved around our offense. If there is no changes than we are going to run down the program like Rocky Long did not by developing a serviceable offense and QB. We could not have matched KJ’s NIL offer. He got somewhere around $400k and a car and a house for his family for the year. It’s just a simple fact that we could not afford that. Also our NIL is designed to give every player the same amount. If SDSU could have Arizona NIL. SDSU would have better off getting Washington or Batcho and have LeDee at the 4 where he supposed to be. |
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Post by standiego on Mar 9, 2024 10:56:18 GMT -8
as mentioned and hurt the Aztecs was NIL money - SDSU lost out on numerous 5's and that meant Ledee had to play the 5 rather then the 4
Who knows what guys might leave for the money and who SDSU might be able to draw to the team
Not having a solid 5 and would guess that Waters was playing on an injured ankle - really hurt this team
Would also add that every time you see a broadcast of an SDSU game you hear the announcers say - if you even want to think about playing at SDSU you better really enjoy playing defense - are there that many guys that want to play defense first rather then up their scoring
So not sure that it is as easy to get all the guys you may want to come to SDSU - recruiting is still a battle and maybe keeping guys here
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Post by aztech on Mar 9, 2024 12:12:01 GMT -8
as mentioned and hurt the Aztecs was NIL money - SDSU lost out on numerous 5's and that meant Ledee had to play the 5 rather then the 4 Who knows what guys might leave for the money and who SDSU might be able to draw to the team Not having a solid 5 and would guess that Waters was playing on an injured ankle - really hurt this team Would also add that every time you see a broadcast of an SDSU game you hear the announcers say - if you even want to think about playing at SDSU you better really enjoy playing defense - are there that many guys that want to play defense first rather then up their scoring So not sure that it is as easy to get all the guys you may want to come to SDSU - recruiting is still a battle and maybe keeping guys here I can't see why an emphasis on defense would deter a good shooter to come here. It's just that Dutcher has to stop that defense or bust crap that Fisher instilled. The way our offense is structured it would be bombs away for the shooter. They'd love it. |
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Post by Cwag on Mar 9, 2024 14:45:41 GMT -8
Dutcher may rue the day he re-upped, but if it's guaranteed, then he can hang in there. Sure won't hurt his CalPERS, either. You think he will regret signing a guaranteed, multi-million dollar contract while also living in San Diego?! Rue the day? No he'll enjoy his pay! |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 9, 2024 15:33:06 GMT -8
We'll have a solid core with Byrd, Saunders, Heide, probably Waters, maybe Parrish, maybe Lamont, but a lot of our success will come with our two bigs who we've never seen play before. Hopefully a big offseason for them to add weight and college toughness will be a benefit, but I'm certain there will be a significant learning curve with them, similar to Miles Byrds. A great play here and there will wow us, but there will likely be a lot of face palm's in the process. I feel like DeGourville and Compton as frosh both bring what we lack this year which is toughness, so I suspect we'll see them get some run too. A PG and scoring guard should be top of Dutch's off season transfer shopping list, as well as an experienced big man. I'd bet the two 7 footers won't contribute significantly until they're juniors at least |
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