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Post by Gundo on Jan 17, 2024 13:56:36 GMT -8
is there any information on who might be handling the P2 in Media Bids for the Conference - realize it could be a couple of years away but that remains the key for the new PAC and possibly the teams that might get invited - as has been the case Viewership and possibly what businesses that might buy local ads for the broadcasts Stan, Media Rights for conferences are typically negotiated and structured through a collaborative process involving the conference leadership, various media networks, and sometimes third-party sports marketing agencies. Below is a summary using Chat GPT (Artificial Intelligence), please note Chat GPT is only updated through Jan 2022. 1. Conference Leadership - They represent the interests of member institutions and work to secure the best possible terms for the conference. 2. Request for Proposals (RFPs): These documents outline the rights that are available for bidding, including broadcasting, streaming, and other digital rights. 3. Negotiations with Media Networks: These negotiations cover various aspects, including the duration of the deal, the financial terms, the number of games to be broadcast, and any additional content or programming included. 4. Bidding Process: Multiple media networks may bid for the rights to broadcast or stream conference football games. The competitive bidding process can drive up the value of the media rights. 5. Digital and Streaming Rights: In recent years, there has been a focus on digital and streaming rights. Conferences may negotiate separate deals for online streaming services, allowing fans to access games through various digital platforms. 6. Revenue Distribution: Once a deal is finalized, the revenue generated from media rights is typically distributed among the member institutions of the conference. 7. Contract Duration: Media rights deals are often signed for a specific duration, commonly ranging from several years to decades. 8. Legal and Regulatory Considerations: Legal and regulatory aspects are considered during the negotiation process to ensure compliance with antitrust laws and other regulations governing media rights agreements. 9. Adaptability to Market Trends: Conferences aim to structure deals that are adaptable to evolving market trends. This may involve provisions for emerging technologies, changes in consumer behavior, or shifts in the sports media landscape. |
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Post by Gundo on Jan 17, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -8
is there any information on who might be handling the P2 in Media Bids for the Conference - realize it could be a couple of years away but that remains the key for the new PAC and possibly the teams that might get invited - as has been the case Viewership and possibly what businesses that might buy local ads for the broadcasts Stan, Media Rights for conferences are typically negotiated and structured through a collaborative process involving the conference leadership, various media networks, and sometimes third-party sports marketing agencies. Below is a summary using Chat GPT (Artificial Intelligence), please note Chat GPT is only updated through Jan 2022. 1. Conference Leadership - They represent the interests of member institutions and work to secure the best possible terms for the conference. 2. Request for Proposals (RFPs): These documents outline the rights that are available for bidding, including broadcasting, streaming, and other digital rights. 3. Negotiations with Media Networks: These negotiations cover various aspects, including the duration of the deal, the financial terms, the number of games to be broadcast, and any additional content or programming included. 4. Bidding Process: Multiple media networks may bid for the rights to broadcast or stream conference football games. The competitive bidding process can drive up the value of the media rights. 5. Digital and Streaming Rights: In recent years, there has been a focus on digital and streaming rights. Conferences may negotiate separate deals for online streaming services, allowing fans to access games through various digital platforms. 6. Revenue Distribution: Once a deal is finalized, the revenue generated from media rights is typically distributed among the member institutions of the conference. 7. Contract Duration: Media rights deals are often signed for a specific duration, commonly ranging from several years to decades. 8. Legal and Regulatory Considerations: Legal and regulatory aspects are considered during the negotiation process to ensure compliance with antitrust laws and other regulations governing media rights agreements. 9. Adaptability to Market Trends: Conferences aim to structure deals that are adaptable to evolving market trends. This may involve provisions for emerging technologies, changes in consumer behavior, or shifts in the sports media landscape. As of Jan 2022 the Mountain West Conference (MWC) media rights were held by FOX Sports and CBS Sports. However, games are sold to ESPN for airing as well. Without a PAC 2 footprint (# of schools, # of TVHHs in media markets, # of games available, schedules/times, exclusivity (if any), production agreements, marketing, and promotion, location regionality, advertiser appeal & strong University sports brands, ALL available media technologies, and rights fees or licensing fees) NO ONE can predict who will represent the PAC conference or what the new conference looks like. Typically, Media rights negotiations are complex, involving a balance of these elements to create mutually beneficial agreements between sports organizations and media networks. However, the Networks/Media Companies are now driving the process of who is in and who is out, and how much each team is worth in a total package. |
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Post by standiego on Jan 17, 2024 14:16:48 GMT -8
I should have clarified - was wondering if the P2 schools are talking with TV/Media to see what kind of Deal they might be trying to get If/When the PAC can get a restart
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Post by Den60 on Jan 17, 2024 19:32:19 GMT -8
I should have clarified - was wondering if the P2 schools are talking with TV/Media to see what kind of Deal they might be trying to get If/When the PAC can get a restart Of course they are. |
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Post by standiego on Jan 18, 2024 6:32:04 GMT -8
Great to hear and who is doing it for them
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Post by aztecron on Jan 18, 2024 7:06:42 GMT -8
I should have clarified - was wondering if the P2 schools are talking with TV/Media to see what kind of Deal they might be trying to get If/When the PAC can get a restart I'm just curious why you would wonder "if the P2 schools are talking with TV/Media to what kind of Deal they might be trying to get If/When the PAC can get a restart." Of course they are, they aren't going to make it public for obvious reasons. |
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Post by aztecron on Jan 18, 2024 7:07:21 GMT -8
Great to hear and who is doing it for them You could ask them yourself. |
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Post by AzTex on Jan 18, 2024 10:26:01 GMT -8
Great to hear and who is doing it for them You could ask them yourself.  |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Jan 18, 2024 13:27:01 GMT -8
You could ask them yourself. Ha. But do you have a POC or contact information so I can ask someone else to reach out? |
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Post by Den60 on Jan 18, 2024 13:36:06 GMT -8
Great to hear and who is doing it for them I expect it is the guy who OSU and Wazzu hired. Not really doing firm negotiation until they have an official commissioner but surely getting an idea of number combinations with various scenarios. |
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Post by AzTex on Jan 18, 2024 13:52:46 GMT -8
Ha. But do you have a POC or contact information so I can ask someone else to reach out? I have two answers to your post depending on what you actually meant.
Reply #1 assuming you are posting as Stan:
[no reply]
Reply #2 assuming you are posting this question as yourself:
No, but then I'm not the one asking the question.
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Post by Gundo on Jun 18, 2024 15:39:08 GMT -8
According to Spencer McLaughlin on "Locked on College Football," the Pac-12 is waiting for the ACC's legal battles to resolve before planning their rebuild. He suggests that Commissioner Teresa Gould should invite six schools to create a top-tier G5 league: San Diego State, Colorado State, Boise State, Fresno State, UNLV (for location and NIL), and Air Force (for academics and football). He also discusses the potential inclusion of Tulane, UTSA, and if the ACC dissolves, Cal, Stanford, and SMU would be top candidates. Also, he s counting out a "Reverse Merger" with the MWC because it would dilute the quality of the New PAC, and starting with 8 teams may be enough to get it off the ground, & up & running. Otherwise nothing new, in terms of topics, but all eyes are locked on the ACC Lawsuit for many reasons. Watch the full discussion here. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0N-0vrWzhs |
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Post by docmm on Jun 18, 2024 21:02:49 GMT -8
If the PAC-2 took those 6 MWC teams before August 2, 2027, it would owe the MWC $67,500,000. Pretty sure that number could either be argued down a bit or tied up in courts as conferences disband all over the place and no one knows how the actual laws with all of this are going to be interpreted.
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Post by aztecterrier on Jun 19, 2024 6:15:39 GMT -8
If the PAC-2 took those 6 MWC teams before August 2, 2027, it would owe the MWC $67,500,000. Pretty sure that number could either be argued down a bit or tied up in courts as conferences disband all over the place and no one knows how the actual laws with all of this are going to be interpreted. Couldn't those six members vote to dissolve the conference and thereby avoid owing anything? Also didn't we hear about a tiered MWC exit fee, that decreases with each member who defects to the Pac2? |
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Post by hoobs on Jun 19, 2024 6:38:06 GMT -8
If the PAC-2 took those 6 MWC teams before August 2, 2027, it would owe the MWC $67,500,000. Pretty sure that number could either be argued down a bit or tied up in courts as conferences disband all over the place and no one knows how the actual laws with all of this are going to be interpreted. Couldn't those six members vote to dissolve the conference and thereby avoid owing anything? Also didn't we hear about a tiered MWC exit fee, that decreases with each member who defects to the Pac2? IIRC, I think it takes 9 schools to vote to dissolve the MW Cite: www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/apr/25/pac-12-mailbag-next-steps-for-the-pac-2-schools-an/So that works if the Pac2 wants to invite all of (my choices): SDSU Boise CSU AFA Fresno Nevada UNLV UNM SJSU I don't think Hawaii counts as a vote, otherwise I'd consider them instead of one of the above. But I think it makes more sense for the Pac2 to use their 'conference war chest' to negotiate the buyout of ~5 from the MW, plus maybe Tulane for an 8 school conference, and then if the ACC implodes they can take Calford back, plus SMU. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Jun 19, 2024 7:18:14 GMT -8
To be worthwhile for us, I don't see it being an upgrade unless we get some of the better schools back into the mix for a revamped pac-#. With that said Cal and Stanford would rather travel 2500 miles than be in a conference with a stinkin state school. I get it. Academically they are far above us. We are moving up in academic rankings in every ranking I've looked at for the past 10 years. But they still will always think of us as a state school. So other than the Arizona schools, Utah, and the two state schools of WA and OR, I don't see anyone else other than say Boise who could put us back on par to be a power conference.
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Post by aztech on Jun 19, 2024 9:38:07 GMT -8
To be worthwhile for us, I don't see it being an upgrade unless we get some of the better schools back into the mix for a revamped pac-#. With that said Cal and Stanford would rather travel 2500 miles than be in a conference with a stinkin state school. I get it. Academically they are far above us. We are moving up in academic rankings in every ranking I've looked at for the past 10 years. But they still will always think of us as a state school. So other than the Arizona schools, Utah, and the two state schools of WA and OR, I don't see anyone else other than say Boise who could put us back on par to be a power conference. If we gain R1 status as targeted in 2025, that should shut them up. Last I checked Wazzu and OSU are only R1 as Pac12 members, so where were the snooty CalFord complaints? LOL |
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Post by chris92065 on Jun 19, 2024 11:41:14 GMT -8
Couldn't those six members vote to dissolve the conference and thereby avoid owing anything? Also, didn't we hear about a tiered MWC exit fee that decreases with each member who defects to the Pac2? IIRC, I think it takes nine schools to vote to dissolve the MW Cite: www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/apr/25/pac-12-mailbag-next-steps-for-the-pac-2-schools-an/So that works if the Pac2 wants to invite all of (my choices): SDSU Boise CSU AFA Fresno Nevada UNLV UNM SJSU I don't think Hawaii counts as a vote; otherwise, I'd consider them instead of one of the above. But I think it makes more sense for the Pac2 to use their 'conference war chest' to negotiate the buyout of ~5 from the MW, plus maybe Tulane for an 8 school conference, and then if the ACC implodes they can take Calford back, plus SMU. Agree, completly. Makes and much more sense to get the top notch schools dismiss the rest. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Jun 19, 2024 12:32:56 GMT -8
To be worthwhile for us, I don't see it being an upgrade unless we get some of the better schools back into the mix for a revamped pac-#. With that said Cal and Stanford would rather travel 2500 miles than be in a conference with a stinkin state school. I get it. Academically they are far above us. We are moving up in academic rankings in every ranking I've looked at for the past 10 years. But they still will always think of us as a state school. So other than the Arizona schools, Utah, and the two state schools of WA and OR, I don't see anyone else other than say Boise who could put us back on par to be a power conference. If we gain R1 status as targeted in 2025, that should shut them up. Last I checked Wazzu and OSU are only R1 as Pac12 members, so where were the snooty CalFord complaints? LOL I'm not sure if that's a rhetorical question or not, but either way you need to take off your rose colored glasses and look at the situation. Like it or not, Stanford and Cal look down on us. Until you literally understand that you will drive yourself crazy with the "but but but" excuses of why you think they should want to be with us. As for R1, that designation has only been around since 2018. The pac-10 (from the pac-8) was created in 1978. They probably used the lack of the designation against us as a cover/justification to their snootiness. |
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Post by aztech on Jun 19, 2024 14:47:04 GMT -8
If we gain R1 status as targeted in 2025, that should shut them up. Last I checked Wazzu and OSU are only R1 as Pac12 members, so where were the snooty CalFord complaints? LOL I'm not sure if that's a rhetorical question or not, but either way you need to take off your rose colored glasses and look at the situation. Like it or not, Stanford and Cal look down on us. Until you literally understand that you will drive yourself crazy with the "but but but" excuses of why you think they should want to be with us. As for R1, that designation has only been around since 2018. The pac-10 (from the pac-8) was created in 1978. They probably used the lack of the designation against us as a cover/justification to their snootiness. I am not implying we would have their respect if we become R1. However it should allow us to be "tolerable." There's no question that we would ever be their academic equals. By the way, I've never worn rose colored glasses. |
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