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Post by Gundo on Aug 9, 2023 12:09:29 GMT -8
Mountain West brings in the 4 remaining pac 12 teams but we have to cut some dead weight teams already in the league. These are the teams I relegate. What do you guys think? San Jose State CUT Nevada CUT Hawaii CUT Wyoming CUT MWC Athletics Revenue by School. The FBS Median = $89,228,205, SDSU Indexes at 74% of the median, P5 TV money makes at least $25 to $50MM or more depending on the school. As a reference point: Ohio STate = $251,615,345, Michigan =$210,652,287, Alabama $214,365,357, UGA = $203,048,566, Washington = $145,184,864, Oregon = $153,510,555.Institution 2017 2022 Change from 17-22SDSU $52,454,787 $65,897,302 26%UNLV $47,327,478 $64,243,413 36% Colo St $44,672,317 $61,263,230 37% Fresno St $46,215,249 $54,124,579 17% Boise St $45,486,486 $50,569,147 11% Wyoming $40,372,222 $50,255,884 24% Hawaii $47,780,885 $49,422,827 3% Nevada $36,955,558 $47,946,637 30% New Mex $44,421,019 $44,881,065 1% Utah St $34,398,296 $43,157,838 25% SJSU $31,252,553 $39,030,222 25% Air Force $59,577,780 — — WSU $64,294,520 $85,028,825 32%
Oregon st $78,959,875 $83,480,015 6% |
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Post by Cwag on Aug 9, 2023 12:15:17 GMT -8
Kliavkoff has it all under control. They should be down to 0 teams in about a week or two. I am looking forward to the truly innovative series of in-season home and home and home and home conference games between Stanford and Cal The Big Game over and over and over again! |
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Post by rockshow on Aug 9, 2023 12:18:47 GMT -8
What's crazy is that not only did George Kliavkoff f x x x up so bad for the Pac 12, but because his ineptitude continued on for so long and everything imploded so late in the Summer, it really f****d the top end of the Mountain West teams as well.
If everything imploded in May and there was only a $17 million exit fee, then SDSU, UNLV, Colo St., Fresno St. and Boise St. would have a much more tenable situation when trying to form their own conference from the best of what's rest.
Now that it's $34 million, it means that not only did SDSU not get a life raft to save itself, it got strapped down with $34 million pound anchors to a sinking ship.
Not only did SDSU get left at the altar, it got slapped with a $34 million restraining order.
Not only did SDSU end up first on the waiting list and not allowed into the party, the door got slammed in its face and now there's a $34 million cover charge.
Ok, enough analogies, you all get the point.
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Post by sdmotohead on Aug 9, 2023 12:19:24 GMT -8
How in the heck does UNLV make so much?
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Post by Den60 on Aug 9, 2023 12:27:04 GMT -8
How in the heck does UNLV make so much? State subsidies. We get them too. |
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Post by hoobs on Aug 9, 2023 12:33:20 GMT -8
Mountain West brings in the 4 remaining pac 12 teams but we have to cut some dead weight teams already in the league. These are the teams I relegate. What do you guys think? San Jose State CUT Nevada CUT Hawaii CUT Wyoming CUT MWC Athletics Revenue by School. The FBS Median = $89,228,205, SDSU Indexes at 74% of the median, P5 TV money makes at least $25 to $50MM or more depending on the school. As a reference point: Ohio STate = $251,615,345, Michigan =$210,652,287, Alabama $214,365,357, UGA = $203,048,566, Washington = $145,184,864, Oregon = $153,510,555.Institution 2017 2022 Change from 17-22SDSU $52,454,787 $65,897,302 26%UNLV $47,327,478 $64,243,413 36% Colo St $44,672,317 $61,263,230 37% Fresno St $46,215,249 $54,124,579 17% Boise St $45,486,486 $50,569,147 11% Wyoming $40,372,222 $50,255,884 24% Hawaii $47,780,885 $49,422,827 3% Nevada $36,955,558 $47,946,637 30% New Mex $44,421,019 $44,881,065 1% Utah St $34,398,296 $43,157,838 25% SJSU $31,252,553 $39,030,222 25% Air Force $59,577,780 — — WSU $64,294,520 $85,028,825 32%
Oregon st $78,959,875 $83,480,015 6%Shows we want to aim at UNLV and CSU being our key 'partners' to get out of the MW, for whatever opporunity... |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 9, 2023 12:39:53 GMT -8
How in the heck does UNLV make so much? <Dupe> |
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Post by fastaztec on Aug 9, 2023 13:38:12 GMT -8
Mountain West brings in the 4 remaining pac 12 teams but we have to cut some dead weight teams already in the league. These are the teams I relegate. What do you guys think? San Jose State CUT Nevada CUT Hawaii CUT Wyoming CUT MWC Athletics Revenue by School. The FBS Median = $89,228,205, SDSU Indexes at 74% of the median, P5 TV money makes at least $25 to $50MM or more depending on the school. As a reference point: Ohio STate = $251,615,345, Michigan =$210,652,287, Alabama $214,365,357, UGA = $203,048,566, Washington = $145,184,864, Oregon = $153,510,555.Institution 2017 2022 Change from 17-22SDSU $52,454,787 $65,897,302 26%UNLV $47,327,478 $64,243,413 36% Colo St $44,672,317 $61,263,230 37% Fresno St $46,215,249 $54,124,579 17% Boise St $45,486,486 $50,569,147 11% Wyoming $40,372,222 $50,255,884 24% Hawaii $47,780,885 $49,422,827 3% Nevada $36,955,558 $47,946,637 30% New Mex $44,421,019 $44,881,065 1% Utah St $34,398,296 $43,157,838 25% SJSU $31,252,553 $39,030,222 25% Air Force $59,577,780 — — WSU $64,294,520 $85,028,825 32%
Oregon st $78,959,875 $83,480,015 6%************************************ **************************************** I assume you meant to say "budget" rather than "revenue". My interpretation of revenue would be from ticket sales, tv, etc and not student fees and other internal subventions. |
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Post by Gundo on Aug 9, 2023 14:04:54 GMT -8
MWC Athletics Revenue by School. The FBS Median = $89,228,205, SDSU Indexes at 74% of the median, P5 TV money makes at least $25 to $50MM or more depending on the school. As a reference point: Ohio STate = $251,615,345, Michigan =$210,652,287, Alabama $214,365,357, UGA = $203,048,566, Washington = $145,184,864, Oregon = $153,510,555.Institution 2017 2022 Change from 17-22SDSU $52,454,787 $65,897,302 26%UNLV $47,327,478 $64,243,413 36% Colo St $44,672,317 $61,263,230 37% Fresno St $46,215,249 $54,124,579 17% Boise St $45,486,486 $50,569,147 11% Wyoming $40,372,222 $50,255,884 24% Hawaii $47,780,885 $49,422,827 3% Nevada $36,955,558 $47,946,637 30% New Mex $44,421,019 $44,881,065 1% Utah St $34,398,296 $43,157,838 25% SJSU $31,252,553 $39,030,222 25% Air Force $59,577,780 — — WSU $64,294,520 $85,028,825 32%
Oregon st $78,959,875 $83,480,015 6%************************************ **************************************** I assume you meant to say "budget" rather than "revenue". My interpretation of revenue would be from ticket sales, tv, etc and not student fees and other internal subventions. This is revenue by institution, I can pull expenses as well. |
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Post by Gundo on Aug 9, 2023 14:11:35 GMT -8
MWC Athletic Dept Expenses
Institution 2017 2022 Change from 17-22
SDSU $51,569,852 $67,245,917 30%
UNLV $47,476,606 $62,644,050 32%
Colo St $43,965,622 $61,220,502 39%
Boise St $45,456,789 $50,328,947 11%
Hawaii $48,984,980 $48,029,141 -2%
Wyoming $38,669,544" $47,146,999 22%
Fresno St $44,119,522 $46,515,828 5%
Nevada $38,982,774 $45,228,707 16%
New Mex $44,356,217 $44,865,758 1%
Utah St $34,213,406 $42,824,185 25%
SJSU $30,676,330 $39,030,022 27%
Air Force $50,112,617 — —
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Post by sdmotohead on Aug 9, 2023 14:26:32 GMT -8
How in the heck does UNLV make so much? State subsidies. We get them too. If that's the case why the huge discrepancy between UNLV and Reno? Us and San Jose State? |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 9, 2023 14:37:15 GMT -8
State subsidies. We get them too. If that's the case why the huge discrepancy between UNLV and Reno? Us and San Jose State? Good question, not sure. UNLV used to get a lot more from the state but it was scaled back. Not sure how much more we get than SJSU, but we also generate more revenue than them. |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 9, 2023 14:42:50 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Aug 9, 2023 16:21:39 GMT -8
This article makes it sound doubtful that Cal/Stanford go to the ACC.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 10, 2023 5:02:16 GMT -8
At this point, even IF Cal/Stanford got an invite to join the B1G or whatever... the 'good news' is that it doesn't look like Oregon State or Washington State have any option other than to rebuild the PAC -- with the benefit of the rather large sum of $$$ the PAC has from NCAA tournament & football playoff credits. They will have to invite three to five or so MW schools, and a few AAC schools... along with seeing what type of money a media partner (most likely Apple?) would come up with. $10m per year per school should be enough for MW & AAC schools to move, since all other doors seem closed (if indeed the Big12 is done expanding for now).
This could be the last bit of musical chairs until the ACC approaches the end of its media deal, at which point the B1G and SEC will probably take a couple ACC schools each.
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Post by lemkotir on Aug 10, 2023 5:29:49 GMT -8
At this point, even IF Cal/Stanford got an invite to join the B1G or whatever... the 'good news' is that it doesn't look like Oregon State or Washington State have any option other than to rebuild the PAC -- with the benefit of the rather large sum of $$$ the PAC has from NCAA tournament & football playoff credits. They will have to invite three to five or so MW schools, and a few AAC schools... along with seeing what type of money a media partner (most likely Apple?) would come up with. $10m per year per school should be enough for MW & AAC schools to move, since all other doors seem closed (if indeed the Big12 is done expanding for now). This could be the last bit of musical chairs until the ACC approaches the end of its media deal, at which point the B1G and SEC will probably take a couple ACC schools each. I still believe we may get a call up to the B12 if several things break our way in the coming years. Yeah, not good odds, but we still remain attractive, provided we continue to have access, draw fans, and the media money returns. Right now, media money has ran out. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 10, 2023 6:12:11 GMT -8
They will find a way to soft-land these two.
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Post by Cwag on Aug 10, 2023 6:20:05 GMT -8
God please do not force them to have to be in a conference with the peasants. They need to retain their royal status.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Aug 10, 2023 6:30:08 GMT -8
They will find a way to soft-land these two. Notre Dame is free to join the ACC or B10 to help make it happen for their pals at Stanford and Cal. Put up or shut up. |
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Post by aztecjeff on Aug 10, 2023 6:47:20 GMT -8
At this point, even IF Cal/Stanford got an invite to join the B1G or whatever... the 'good news' is that it doesn't look like Oregon State or Washington State have any option other than to rebuild the PAC -- with the benefit of the rather large sum of $$$ the PAC has from NCAA tournament & football playoff credits. They will have to invite three to five or so MW schools, and a few AAC schools... along with seeing what type of money a media partner (most likely Apple?) would come up with. $10m per year per school should be enough for MW & AAC schools to move, since all other doors seem closed (if indeed the Big12 is done expanding for now). This could be the last bit of musical chairs until the ACC approaches the end of its media deal, at which point the B1G and SEC will probably take a couple ACC schools each. I still believe we may get a call up to the B12 if several things break our way in the coming years. Yeah, not good odds, but we still remain attractive, provided we continue to have access, draw fans, and the media money returns. Right now, media money has ran out. Media money has NOT ran out. That's just an excuse they love to use. Watch the numbers that'll be offered when the the 2026 College Football Playoff bidding comes out. They're just using tightwad business practices at the moment, but they've got plenty of money in their coffers, believe me. |
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