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Post by aztecmusician on Feb 6, 2023 3:04:55 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 6, 2023 5:35:04 GMT -8
What a debacle. He had other chances to shoot it down prior to this. Weak.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 6, 2023 6:56:23 GMT -8
What a debacle. He had other chances to shoot it down prior to this. Weak. I don't think Biden decides when to shoot down the balloon. Perhaps he listens to his military advisors first and goes on their recommendations...using something called critical thought. An outraged (generally manufactured) TV pundit has the easy job of just sewing outrage for ratings. Now, if we know the inside timing and analysis of the military experts who made the final recommendations, perhaps then we could have this discussion.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 6, 2023 7:59:58 GMT -8
What a debacle. He had other chances to shoot it down prior to this. Weak. I don't think Biden decides when to shoot down the balloon. Perhaps he listens to his military advisors first and goes on their recommendations...using something called critical thought. An outraged (generally manufactured) TV pundit has the easy job of just sewing outrage for ratings. Now, if we know the inside timing and analysis of the military experts who made the final recommendations, perhaps then we could have this discussion. Yes, that's possible. The POTUS is like the HC of a sports team. He gets all the credit when going well, and gets all the flack when not. Both parties trust their advisors/assistants.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 6, 2023 8:00:40 GMT -8
I'm more than sure Biden let the professionals assess the balloon, its makeup, power source, capabilities and damage to civilians/infrastructure before taking action...of course those who are ignorant of this information and/or have political agendas...do not have to take these things into consideration...because all they run...is their collective mouths....
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 6, 2023 8:48:40 GMT -8
You're just a few days late. A ton of Republican bluster (and lying through their teeth) but something the Chinese have done for decades. They have these things called satellites, too. Edit: The Pentagon was actively tracking and blocking the signal, per their own statement. I can't wait for the next manufactured hysteria.
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Post by aztecmusician on Feb 6, 2023 11:01:23 GMT -8
You're just a few days late. A ton of Republican bluster (and lying through their teeth) but something the Chinese have done for decades. They have these things called satellites, too. Edit: The Pentagon was actively tracking and blocking the signal, per their own statement. I can't wait for the next manufactured hysteria. The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 6, 2023 12:17:40 GMT -8
You're just a few days late. A ton of Republican bluster (and lying through their teeth) but something the Chinese have done for decades. They have these things called satellites, too. Edit: The Pentagon was actively tracking and blocking the signal, per their own statement. I can't wait for the next manufactured hysteria. The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe. The people who helped give you the Afghanistan disaster include Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo, but you know this, as you've been made aware multiple times. There's literally not a single original thought in you, is there? I feel like Tucker is talking to me through AztecMesa, it's simply regurgitation of Fox News silliness over and over again. You think China needs a balloon to do a flyover to gain data on Americans? Have you heard of TikTok? Or the 499 Chinese satellites that patrol space every single day? Of course not, that would interfere with the narrative. What if I told you that the same exact situation unfolded during the Trump administration multiple times...and nobody cared? A "tough on China" president (LOL) who did nothing when confronted with the situation. Just an outsider perspective, but this looks incredibly biased, deceptive and disingenuous, like most of your arguments. Considering where they come from, that isn't much of a surprise, however. Noted accused sexual predator Jim Jordan is on the case, though. What a relief. Outside of one crocodile tears post about Ohio, Jordan's last dozen tweets are all about Biden and how "Trump secured the border." The American people don't care about a balloon, they want their Congress to do their JOB.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 6, 2023 12:33:14 GMT -8
You're just a few days late. A ton of Republican bluster (and lying through their teeth) but something the Chinese have done for decades. They have these things called satellites, too. Edit: The Pentagon was actively tracking and blocking the signal, per their own statement. I can't wait for the next manufactured hysteria. The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe. can't help yourself..Not a Musician post without Hunter...really relevant.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 6, 2023 14:31:26 GMT -8
You're just a few days late. A ton of Republican bluster (and lying through their teeth) but something the Chinese have done for decades. They have these things called satellites, too. Edit: The Pentagon was actively tracking and blocking the signal, per their own statement. I can't wait for the next manufactured hysteria. The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe. Three Chinese Balloons Flew Over US During Trump Presidency"While some members of the Trump administration eventually realized that the unidentified objects were Chinese spy vessels, those intelligence conclusions often took weeks - particularly because the balloons included jamming systems to hide their true intent, Trump-era officials said. The former president was never presented an opportunity to shoot balloons down." "Former President Donald Trump and some senior officials who worked for him have denied knowing that Chinese airships entered US airspace on their watch." www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-06/us-didn-t-know-about-chinese-balloons-during-trump-until-laterChinese balloons flew over US three times during Trump administration: officials"As Republicans spent the past few days criticizing the Biden administration over its response to the suspected Chinese spy balloon that flew across the country, an official revealed during a briefing on Saturday that the U.S. was aware of three other instances during the prior administration and one instance earlier in the Biden administration that such an apparatus “transited” the country." thehill.com/policy/defense/3844511-chinese-balloons-flew-over-us-three-times-during-trump-administration-officials/
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Post by azson on Feb 6, 2023 14:36:32 GMT -8
The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe. can't help yourself..Not a Musician post without Hunter...really relevant. We should rename the thread (and all poli threads that AM starts) to Aztec Buffoon.
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Post by aztecmusician on Feb 6, 2023 17:31:42 GMT -8
The same people who gave us the Afghanistan disaster made the decision to wait on knocking down the spy balloon. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to call this a triumph for the Biden people. Just an outsider perspective, this looks incredibly incompetent and weak. He let China (aka Hunter’s buds) do a slow motion fly over our homeland. Over our homes. Not a good look for creepy sleepy Joe. can't help yourself..Not a Musician post without Hunter...really relevant. FWIW, this story is resonating with the American People, poorly. Don’t blame me for the Biden people’s poor handling of this and multiple other issues. The only thing this administration has been successful at is enriching their own constituents. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN A SH!+ STORM of screw ups. This balloon thing is just the latest. Joe Biden is the exact diametric opposite of Sun Tzu. We’ve gone from the Art of War, to The Art of The Deal, to Art of incompetence, hypocrisy and corruption in just over two years. BTW, I would label your post the Art of Stupidity, but that would be giving you too much credit.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 6, 2023 17:46:05 GMT -8
can't help yourself..Not a Musician post without Hunter...really relevant. FWIW, this story is resonating with the American People, poorly. Don’t blame me for the Biden people’s poor handling of this and multiple other issues. The only thing this administration has been successful at is enriching their own constituents. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN A SH!+ STORM of screw ups. This balloon thing is just the latest. Joe Biden is the exact diametric opposite of Sun Tzu. We’ve gone from the Art of War, to The Art of The Deal, to Art of incompetence, hypocrisy and corruption in just over two years. BTW, I would label your post the Art of Stupidity, but that would be giving you too much credit. It's resonating in your echo chamber, but the average American doesn't care about a balloon. You're doing everyone a disservice by just spouting propagandistic material. If it wasn't a balloon, they'd find another hypocritical situation to be angry about. You don't even address any counterpoints, you just yell louder.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Feb 6, 2023 19:57:56 GMT -8
Actually thinking about the military guys thinking it was prudent to wait until the POC was over the Atlantic ocean. The balloon and debris landed in 42 feet of relatively calm ocean. If they had dropped it over the Aleutian islands the sea would have been colder, much deeper and the bottom much rougher. In addition the currents and tides in the Aleutians are fierce. JMO
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Feb 6, 2023 19:59:54 GMT -8
Actually thinking about the military guys thinking it was prudent to wait until the POC was over the Atlantic ocean. The balloon and debris landed in 42 feet of relatively calm ocean. If they had dropped it over the Aleutian islands the sea would have been colder, much deeper and the bottom much rougher. In addition the currents and tides in the Aleutians are fierce. JMO
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 6, 2023 21:06:18 GMT -8
Actually thinking about the military guys thinking it was prudent to wait until the POC was over the Atlantic ocean. The balloon and debris landed in 42 feet of relatively calm ocean. If they had dropped it over the Aleutian islands the sea would have been colder, much deeper and the bottom much rougher. In addition the currents and tides in the Aleutians are fierce. JMO What about over Montana?
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 7, 2023 10:17:03 GMT -8
Actually thinking about the military guys thinking it was prudent to wait until the POC was over the Atlantic ocean. The balloon and debris landed in 42 feet of relatively calm ocean. If they had dropped it over the Aleutian islands the sea would have been colder, much deeper and the bottom much rougher. In addition the currents and tides in the Aleutians are fierce. JMO What about over Montana? How about no?
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 7, 2023 10:54:19 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 7, 2023 10:59:29 GMT -8
Seems pretty obvious: People live in Montana. The balloon was the size of several buses and reportedly 200 feet tall. It's a balloon, not an ICBM and wasn't an intelligence threat or national security threat.
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Post by sdsustoner on Feb 7, 2023 18:12:14 GMT -8
Yes, I'd love more information on Montana
Thank you, China!
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