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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 10:54:12 GMT -8
For starters. Most Media Outlets wouldn't cover most of the good that he did.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 11:02:26 GMT -8
For starters. Most Media Outlets wouldn't cover most of the good that he did. Whoa. Highly specific detail there. Like what? Specific examples here. Guessing this isn't going to go well. I'll help you. Here's the list of Trump accomplishments. Once you get past the racism, it goes a tiny bit better. trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 12:29:50 GMT -8
For starters. Most Media Outlets wouldn't cover most of the good that he did. Whoa. Highly specific detail there. Like what? Specific examples here. Guessing this isn't going to go well. I'll help you. Here's the list of Trump accomplishments. Once you get past the racism, it goes a tiny bit better. trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/Wow. The narcissism with you is boundless. You never cease to amaze with it. I don't need any of your help, oh mighty one. Trump could say "black person" and you and most on the left would equate that to him being racist, so there's that. My examples for this is, like I said, just about ANYTHING he did that was good. CNN, et al, were not going to report on it. Darn them if they were going to make him look good in any way.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 12:40:17 GMT -8
Wow. The narcissism with you is boundless. You never cease to amaze with it. I don't need any of your help, oh mighty one. Trump could say "black person" and you and most on the left would equate that to him being racist, so there's that. My examples for this is, like I said, just about ANYTHING he did that was good. CNN, et al, were not going to report on it. Darn them if they were going to make him look good in any way. This might be your worst response of all-time. Narcissist? John, asked point blank a layup of a question...you can't point to a single thing. Your original answer was generic, bland and unfortunately expected. Please read the first accomplishment at that link: It uses the term "Chinese" virus. A president using that term is flatly unacceptable. COVID-19, COVID alone, virtually anything else...but "Chinese" virus? Pattern of behavior, just ask "Coco" or "Chinese" Chow. You can't point to a single thing, even when given the information. Guess that ends the silly narrative before it starts.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 12:58:42 GMT -8
Back to the topic at hand: One of those "Chinese" balloons turned out to be a balloon from a hobbyist organization in Illinois. Whoops.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 13:25:29 GMT -8
Wow. The narcissism with you is boundless. You never cease to amaze with it. I don't need any of your help, oh mighty one. Trump could say "black person" and you and most on the left would equate that to him being racist, so there's that. My examples for this is, like I said, just about ANYTHING he did that was good. CNN, et al, were not going to report on it. Darn them if they were going to make him look good in any way. This might be your worst response of all-time. Narcissist? John, asked point blank a layup of a question...you can't point to a single thing. Your original answer was generic, bland and unfortunately expected. Please read the first accomplishment at that link: It uses the term "Chinese" virus. A president using that term is flatly unacceptable. COVID-19, COVID alone, virtually anything else...but "Chinese" virus? Pattern of behavior, just ask "Coco" or "Chinese" Chow. You can't point to a single thing, even when given the information. Guess that ends the silly narrative before it starts. Lol. Too funny. Your narcissism is so bad, you're blinded by it, even when you read it back yourself you can't see it. Narcissism, patronising people. You're 1st Team All American in those departments. I don't know what's so difficult for you to understand. Take ANYTHING Trump did well, and there's your answer. Sheesh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 14:04:32 GMT -8
Completely understand disliking Trump the person. $#!+, I’m a Republican and I think he’s a total sleaze.
But to pretend he wasn’t an effective President in regards to economy, national security, jobs, the border, and minority employment growth is just BS.
He was overall a pretty good POTUS.
I think Biden has been pretty solid in alot of these areas as well, though not on border toughness.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 18, 2023 14:08:28 GMT -8
John, can't understand why you are throwing trump a bone. Wpuld you like a list of his former cabinet members who have turned on him as "incompetent" "dangerous" and worse? Generals, Mattis, Kelly and Milley. Bolton, Ryan, Tillerson, Scaramuchi, Steph Grisham, McMaster, Bossert, Amarosa, personal lawyer Cohen...and so many , many more. Name one other president who has even had a couple turn on them out of service to the public?. guess Nixon had a few , but not even close. And it turns out FOX behind his back. Bottom line...bad individual.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 18, 2023 14:21:47 GMT -8
Completely understand disliking Trump the person. $#!+, I’m a Republican and I think he’s a total sleaze. But to pretend he wasn’t an effective President in regards to economy, national security, jobs, the border, and minority employment growth is just BS. He was overall a pretty good POTUS. I think Biden has been pretty solid in alot of these areas as well, though not on border toughness. Josh, he took Putin's word over our own intelligence agencies in front of the World...he joins the Rosenberg's if he did that 40 years ago. Why did Republicans let him slide on that one...and many. many others? Could it be they were afraid of the maga base...just like FOX is?
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 14:23:53 GMT -8
This might be your worst response of all-time. Narcissist? John, asked point blank a layup of a question...you can't point to a single thing. Your original answer was generic, bland and unfortunately expected. Please read the first accomplishment at that link: It uses the term "Chinese" virus. A president using that term is flatly unacceptable. COVID-19, COVID alone, virtually anything else...but "Chinese" virus? Pattern of behavior, just ask "Coco" or "Chinese" Chow. You can't point to a single thing, even when given the information. Guess that ends the silly narrative before it starts. Lol. Too funny. Your narcissism is so bad, you're blinded by it, even when you read it back yourself you can't see it. Narcissism, patronising people. You're 1st Team All American in those departments. I don't know what's so difficult for you to understand. Take ANYTHING Trump did well, and there's your answer. Sheesh. I don't know why it's so difficult for you to find one example. "Anything" is not an answer, it's lazy. You can keep insulting me, it's perfectly fine. Still looking for a real answer though. The truth is that it's not as simplistic as you'd like it to be. A Google search shows me that "CNN" (who now leans right) covered Trump's job reports, covered the historic Middle East peace deal he signed, covered his stock market success and many of his other non-fiction achievements. The media's job isn't to be nice to a president, it's to report.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 14:50:38 GMT -8
Lol. Too funny. Your narcissism is so bad, you're blinded by it, even when you read it back yourself you can't see it. Narcissism, patronising people. You're 1st Team All American in those departments. I don't know what's so difficult for you to understand. Take ANYTHING Trump did well, and there's your answer. Sheesh. I don't know why it's so difficult for you to find one example. "Anything" is not an answer, it's lazy. You can keep insulting me, it's perfectly fine. Still looking for a real answer though. The truth is that it's not as simplistic as you'd like it to be. A Google search shows me that "CNN" (who now leans right) covered Trump's job reports, covered the historic Middle East peace deal he signed, covered his stock market success and many of his other non-fiction achievements. The media's job isn't to be nice to a president, it's to report. Just as you say when you call people a liar, and many more things, I call it as I see it.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 14:53:46 GMT -8
John, can't understand why you are throwing trump a bone. Wpuld you like a list of his former cabinet members who have turned on him as "incompetent" "dangerous" and worse? Generals, Mattis, Kelly and Milley. Bolton, Ryan, Tillerson, Scaramuchi, Steph Grisham, McMaster, Bossert, Amarosa, personal lawyer Cohen...and so many , many more. Name one other president who has even had a couple turn on them out of service to the public?. guess Nixon had a few , but not even close. And it turns out FOX behind his back. Bottom line...bad individual. I agree. He's said and done some bad things. Not the best person in the world. I do feel he's done some good things as President and it bugs me when people can't admit that, or try to diminish it. I try to be fair.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 15:01:05 GMT -8
Completely understand disliking Trump the person. $#!+, I’m a Republican and I think he’s a total sleaze. But to pretend he wasn’t an effective President in regards to economy, national security, jobs, the border, and minority employment growth is just BS. He was overall a pretty good POTUS. I think Biden has been pretty solid in alot of these areas as well, though not on border toughness. This is my exact position on Trump. There are those out there that can't stand it when something positive comes out about Trump. I would have more respect for someone if they would say, yes, he accomplished this and that, without trying to water it down. If someone does something well, admit it and then move on to the bad or whatever, but to say he did zero good, or water down what he did well, it comes across as not genuine.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 18, 2023 15:11:15 GMT -8
Completely understand disliking Trump the person. $#!+, I’m a Republican and I think he’s a total sleaze. But to pretend he wasn’t an effective President in regards to economy, national security, jobs, the border, and minority employment growth is just BS. He was overall a pretty good POTUS. I think Biden has been pretty solid in alot of these areas as well, though not on border toughness. This is my exact position on Trump. There are those out there that can't stand it when something positive comes out about Trump. I would have more respect for someone if they would say, yes, he accomplished this and that, without trying to water it down. If someone does something well, admit it and then move on to the bad or whatever, but to say he did zero good, or water down what he did well, it comes across as not genuine. well.. as trump told General Kelley at the US cemetery in Normandy " Hitler did a lot of good things"...
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 15:14:50 GMT -8
This is my exact position on Trump. There are those out there that can't stand it when something positive comes out about Trump. I would have more respect for someone if they would say, yes, he accomplished this and that, without trying to water it down. If someone does something well, admit it and then move on to the bad or whatever, but to say he did zero good, or water down what he did well, it comes across as not genuine. well.. as trump told General Kelley at the US cemetery in Normandy " Hitler did a lot of good things"... I hear ya.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 15:16:04 GMT -8
If Trump is the nominee, I'm not going to vote for him. I also will not vote Democrat. We'll see.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 15:19:13 GMT -8
Completely understand disliking Trump the person. $#!+, I’m a Republican and I think he’s a total sleaze. But to pretend he wasn’t an effective President in regards to economy, national security, jobs, the border, and minority employment growth is just BS. He was overall a pretty good POTUS. I think Biden has been pretty solid in alot of these areas as well, though not on border toughness. This is my exact position on Trump. There are those out there that can't stand it when something positive comes out about Trump. I would have more respect for someone if they would say, yes, he accomplished this and that, without trying to water it down. If someone does something well, admit it and then move on to the bad or whatever, but to say he did zero good, or water down what he did well, it comes across as not genuine. Most sane people aren't willing to look past the complete destruction of impartial rule of law because of a peace agreement between Morocco and Israel. When doing this, you have to weigh things in terms of how much they actually matter. Do you care about Morocco? Do you care about Bahrain? Does that somehow outweigh the COVID response, the praising of dictators, the vilification of minorities, two impeachments, human rights rollbacks, January 6th, voter fraud myths, all of the above? Of course not. That doesn't mean his accomplishments are being "watered down" - It means they don't hold a candle to the negative things that took place under his watch.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 18, 2023 15:20:41 GMT -8
If Trump is the nominee, I'm not going to vote for him. I also will not vote Democrat. We'll see. I'd vote for a brilliant, competent moderate....if I could get one...no matter party
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 18, 2023 15:34:33 GMT -8
If Trump is the nominee, I'm not going to vote for him. I also will not vote Democrat. We'll see. I'd vote for a brilliant, competent moderate....if I could get one...no matter party So not Nikki Haley?
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 18, 2023 15:39:39 GMT -8
If Trump is the nominee, I'm not going to vote for him. I also will not vote Democrat. We'll see. I'd vote for a brilliant, competent moderate....if I could get one...no matter party Bingo. I'm right there with ya!!!
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