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Post by standiego on Jul 2, 2022 8:28:06 GMT -8
So is there a battle between those schools that are trying to expand the PAC vs those who are trying to get into the BIG or Big 12
Most important who is talking with the TV Networks as to what money might be available and what they want
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Post by namssa on Jul 2, 2022 9:04:43 GMT -8
This is all following the Big12 script from a year ago. They lose their best two schools. All the schools begin to reach out to other conferences in a panic that they will be left out. They then all realize they are better off banding together. And finally, they add a few schools to replace the ones that left. I just don't see Pac12 members leaving for the Big12. Unless the Big10 poach others (which won't happen this year) then the rest should stay together. Hopefully when expansion comes, our name is called (and I think its a very good chance it could be). Conferences don't want to KILL other conferences. This is likely how it will play out. Fingers crossed.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 2, 2022 9:10:21 GMT -8
This is all following the Big12 script from a year ago. They lose their best two schools. All the schools begin to reach out to other conferences in a panic that they will be left out. They then all realize they are better off banding together. And finally, they add a few schools to replace the ones that left. I just don't see Pac12 members leaving for the Big12. Unless the Big10 poach others (which won't happen this year) then the rest should stay together. Hopefully when expansion comes, our name is called (and I think its a very good chance it could be). Conferences don't want to KILL other conferences. This is likely how it will play out. Fingers crossed. Totally agree. After the initial shock and panic cooler heads will prevail and the Pac 12 will replace USC and UCLA and then take a wait an see approach, just like the Big 12 did when OU and Texas announced they were leaving. Judging by everything out there SDSU should be the first call the Pac 12 should make.
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 2, 2022 14:36:07 GMT -8
I don't understand how our "Travel Ease" is only "Easy" when CSU and AFA are "Ideal." For those two you have to land in Denver and bus to Ft. Collins and Colorado Springs. But I do like his opinion that we're a great candidate.
This had me going "huh??" as well. What could be easier than flying to the airport downtown, and driving 10-15 minutes to the stadium/hotel? I think the likely explanation is that the "computer" only considered the closest major airport for each school, recognized Denver's as a hub, and spit out "ideal" w/o considering bus ride to the final destination. The other funny thing was the "Tweet'er" replying in the comments to the Boise fan that they have "by far the best football program of all the candidates". He's about 7 years behind the times.
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Post by standiego on Jul 2, 2022 14:55:26 GMT -8
Basic American Business Plan - you buy out your oppositions best teams/businesses
That is why The SEC added the Sooners and Longhorns
BIG acquired USC and UCLA
BIG and PAC did the same with their previous Expansions
Big 12 after losing their top 2 teams added 4
even the G5 groups have added schools to boost their image for TV deals
Rumor out ( and there are numerous ) BIG may want 2 Divisions of 9 or if they want to go back to their roots 2 divisions of 10 - could call themselves Big 10 East and west
So who would be candidates N.D,- Ducks - Stanford - Houston - Huskies or add some from the ACC
PAC schools are doing the same pick me and some trying to stay a Power Conference are working ( asking TV Networks who do you want - since TV pays the bills ) or is Big 12 a better deal
Is the Big 12 safe or is Houston the hot school - or are certain Schools in the Big 12 being eye balled by PAC and is the Big looking to add Arizona / ASU - Colorado - Utah
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Jul 3, 2022 15:57:51 GMT -8
The question is who is going to break the news once it becomes official and not speculative any longer, and we are officially a member of the PAC10? Please don't let Stan get the letter he'll send back a 50 point questionnaire asking for additional timelines, organizational charts, conference breakdowns, offseason exercise schedules and most importantly who can play the 5. Yah that is a good point. Then he will continue to say the same thing over and over and over and over. Just so you know it is about the TV contracts, and how they will wait and see what the networks are going to pay.... blah blah blah, wash, rinse and repeat over and over to infinity and beyond. Guarantees: Death Taxes Stan repeating himself over and over and over and over (20k psots and 15k of them are just repeating himself over and over and over and over)
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Post by Yoda on Jul 3, 2022 18:20:43 GMT -8
SDSU,UNLV, Boise are all real possibles. Fresno doesn’t bring anything new if Stanford and Cal Stay. Boise might be better suited for the Big 12 though. Either way SDSU and Boise won’t be in the MWC much longer. I remember you. You haven't had anything good to say about Fresno in, what, 20 years? Just out of curiosity, what is it that the PAC 10 would lose if Stanford and Cal left, and that Fresno would replace -- world class academics? LOL... All schools offer advantages and disadvantages. Of the four you mentioned, Fresno offers: 1. the second largest television market (to SDSU), 2. second highest national television ratings (to Boise; more than double UNLVs), 3. second highest attendance (to Boise, again, probably almost double UNLV's) 4. is the second closest to LA (to SDSU), the market that the PAC is losing 5. has played in the second most conference championship games (to Boise, UNLV has played in none), and 6. has the second highest rated academics (to SDSU). Further, unlike Vegas, our population is a resident one, rather than a transient one that will never embrace the Rebels as their own home town team. I'm not saying that we are a slam dunk under any expansion scenario but you dismiss us too easily.
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Post by Old School on Jul 4, 2022 9:08:22 GMT -8
Oldie Out
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Post by survalli on Jul 4, 2022 11:43:38 GMT -8
Oldie Out yes they put Metro because no one wants to give us San Diego County/ try adding San Diego County.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 7:52:35 GMT -8
The thing that I still don't understand with all this speculation, Besides USC and UCLA, SDSU is the only D1 Football program in Southern California! Wouldn't the Pac 12 or Big 12 want that in your conference? I know everyone puts emphasis TV markets but don't you want to play games and recruit in So Cal? I think this a underrated benefit of having SDSU in your conference.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 7:56:14 GMT -8
Palate cleanser
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 8:09:30 GMT -8
it's a spot-on take, take the Utah, CU, AZ reports. Everyone is just looking to put out content and collect clicks. So when a guy who is running the equivalent of the Aztec Sports Report posts his "report", traditional outlets create their own content on top of it and report it that "Reportedly" these teams are meeting with the B12. I would bet donut holes to dollars that every program in the country has reached out to their networks to understand where they stand. That includes the B10 and SEC.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 5, 2022 8:10:01 GMT -8
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Post by chris92065 on Jul 5, 2022 8:11:44 GMT -8
Completely concur. Click bait.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 8:16:00 GMT -8
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Post by AzTex on Jul 5, 2022 8:17:59 GMT -8
Old saying: Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 8:23:35 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 8:41:16 GMT -8
Occam's razor. No one from the PAC 12 is going to do anything until they understand where they are today in regard to TV as constituted today. They will also get a read on TV's thoughts for potential additions as well. Only after that has been done will the members decide individually what they would like to do.
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Post by namssa on Jul 5, 2022 9:15:48 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 9:57:30 GMT -8
I’m a preparing for SDSU to be going nowhere.
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