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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 22, 2023 13:12:59 GMT -8
This pretty much should shut Yoda up for good. Not a prayer in hell. Kurtz readily admits that he has no sources of his own; he's just regurgitating what he reads along with his own opinions. He's a K-State / Big 12 homer and he's almost entirely ignorant of college football west of Texas. So I'll shut up when the decisions have been made and we are on the outside. Until then, I'm still 90% chance we are in unless the PAC totally collapses, in which case we drop to 50%. Sorry... Oh and by the way, if you trust Kurtz so much, you might want to consider that he's 100% in on Arizona, Arizona State and Colorado coming to the Big 12. Sure you want to rely on his opinions? The article was actually written by Dennis Dodd, and I’m sure you have considered his articles gospel for the last 9 months as he’s been the biggest PAC-12 hater during that time. Hopefully that is the reality check you so desperately need. |
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Post by gocoaztec on Apr 22, 2023 13:15:12 GMT -8
Although it would only make a relatively small change, I believe that the Boise deal would count towards the computation of the average conference distribution. I am not following, I took $1.8M off the top and then calculated the distributions with the net amount. What else should we consider? I don’t think that Boise’s extra $1.8m comes off the top since it is still a distribution, however I’m not sure about that. I wonder if Hawaii’s distribution is even counted in the equation since they are not a full member? In any case, your estimate is probably a magnitude better than my estimate. |
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Post by obboy13 on Apr 22, 2023 13:20:14 GMT -8
I don't so much mind his Fresno/B12 posts, but they're kind of off topic (somewhat) on this thread. Tangential at best. This is about SDSU and the PAC 12.The thread title may be about "SDSU and the PAC 12" but the thread itself is far broader than that. It's also about "SDSU and the Big 12". It's about television markets and television deals. It's about Oregon and Washington bolting to the Big 10 -- and Stanford and Cal doing so as well. It's about the odds of Colorado and Arizona going to the Big 12. And Arizona State and Utah. And Washington and Oregon. And Washington State and Oregon State. It's about SMU, and Tulane and Rice. It's about academics and cultural fits. It's about comparative attendance figures and disputed market sizes. And comparative television ratings. It's about protecting rivalries or splitting them between conferences -- BYU & Utah, Arizona and Arizona State, the Washington & Oregon schools. And so much more. All of which are tangential to the very narrow thread title. You can't speculate about SDSU to the P12 in a void because it isn't happening in a void. If you tried, you'd have a 35 page thread that would have fallen off the front page long ago. Your house. Your rules. Your call. But I am not a troll. Ok Milhous, if you say so, I guess everybody is sure to believe you.  |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 22, 2023 13:42:25 GMT -8
Not a prayer in hell. Kurtz readily admits that he has no sources of his own; he's just regurgitating what he reads along with his own opinions. He's a K-State / Big 12 homer and he's almost entirely ignorant of college football west of Texas. So I'll shut up when the decisions have been made and we are on the outside. Until then, I'm still 90% chance we are in unless the PAC totally collapses, in which case we drop to 50%. Sorry... Oh and by the way, if you trust Kurtz so much, you might want to consider that he's 100% in on Arizona, Arizona State and Colorado coming to the Big 12. Sure you want to rely on his opinions? The article was actually written by Dennis Dodd, and I’m sure you have considered his articles gospel for the last 9 months as he’s been the biggest PAC-12 hater during that time. Hopefully that is the reality check you so desperately need. Okay, I see -- Dodd wrote it. But he's wrong. And I doubt that I have ever quoted him. Too many writers are propogandists who support the narrative that "their side" is promoting. Canzano is the same way for the PAC -- consistently wrong but always on the good side of the PAC and its schools. Always there to receive and promote the next planted quote. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 22, 2023 17:13:41 GMT -8
All yoda and b12 related posts should be done in the appropriate yodaganda thread that was designated for such lunacy.
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 22, 2023 17:20:43 GMT -8
After the Dodd comment Fresno should not be referenced as a P5 candidate any longer. Their president started that rumor as a way to get the Valley excited about their boondoggle upcoming vote.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 22, 2023 17:29:26 GMT -8
The article was actually written by Dennis Dodd, and I’m sure you have considered his articles gospel for the last 9 months as he’s been the biggest PAC-12 hater during that time. Hopefully that is the reality check you so desperately need. Okay, I see -- Dodd wrote it. But he's wrong. And I doubt that I have ever quoted him. Too many writers are propogandists who support the narrative that "their side" is promoting. Canzano is the same way for the PAC -- consistently wrong but always on the good side of the PAC and its schools. Always there to receive and promote the next planted quote. You have posted his articles |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 22, 2023 17:55:48 GMT -8
All yoda and b12 related posts should be done in the appropriate yodaganda thread that was designated for such lunacy. I don't believe that I have said anything at all about Fresno today that wasn't in response to a question or comment. |
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Apr 22, 2023 18:35:09 GMT -8
The article was actually written by Dennis Dodd, and I’m sure you have considered his articles gospel for the last 9 months as he’s been the biggest PAC-12 hater during that time. Hopefully that is the reality check you so desperately need. Okay, I see -- Dodd wrote it. But he's wrong. And I doubt that I have ever quoted him. Too many writers are propogandists who support the narrative that "their side" is promoting. Canzano is the same way for the PAC -- consistently wrong but always on the good side of the PAC and its schools. Always there to receive and promote the next planted quote. Isn't Canzano one of the main (only?) person in the media pushing the Big12 is interested in Fresno? Clearly that's just Pac propaganda right? Is he "consistently wrong" about this as well? |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 22, 2023 18:43:01 GMT -8
All yoda and b12 related posts should be done in the appropriate yodaganda thread that was designated for such lunacy. I don't believe that I have said anything at all about Fresno today that wasn't in response to a question or comment. My comment wasn't solely directed just at you. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 22, 2023 19:14:39 GMT -8
Okay, I see -- Dodd wrote it. But he's wrong. And I doubt that I have ever quoted him. Too many writers are propogandists who support the narrative that "their side" is promoting. Canzano is the same way for the PAC -- consistently wrong but always on the good side of the PAC and its schools. Always there to receive and promote the next planted quote. Isn't Canzano one of the main (only?) person in the media pushing the Big12 is interested in Fresno? Clearly that's just Pac propaganda right? Is he "consistently wrong" about this as well? Yeah, but it's not a PR campaign, where his opinion has some role in the final outcome. Canzano has no Big 12 contacts; he'd have no way of knowing if we are under consideration or not. Rather than take him at his word, I wonder why he spoke up at all. Maybe he has a PAC buddy who wants Fresno in the PAC and so he's planting the seed that taking SDSU alone doesn't keep the Big 12 out of the state. Probably not but, maybe. Frankly, it's as likely as a PAC 10 homer like Canzano suddenly developing Big 12 connections that are deep enough to scoop their interest in Fresno. If Dodd is a Big 12 homer, maybe he is claiming that the conference has no interest in Fresno because the conference is trying to keep their interest under wraps for fear that the PAC might invite us. Probably not, but maybe. Basically, I don't consider sports media to be journalists at all -- just glorified posters. On a topic like this, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Both sides are trying to control their messaging and their fawning press trades unquestioning regurgitation of the party line for access. I'm more likely to disbelieve what they say than to believe it. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 22, 2023 19:34:32 GMT -8
Isn't Canzano one of the main (only?) person in the media pushing the Big12 is interested in Fresno? Clearly that's just Pac propaganda right? Is he "consistently wrong" about this as well? Yeah, but it's not a PR campaign, where his opinion has some role in the final outcome. Canzano has no Big 12 contacts; he'd have no way of knowing if we are under consideration or not. Rather than take him at his word, I wonder why he spoke up at all. Maybe he has a PAC buddy who wants Fresno in the PAC and so he's planting the seed that taking SDSU alone doesn't keep the Big 12 out of the state. Probably not but, maybe. Frankly, it's as likely as a PAC 10 homer like Canzano suddenly developing Big 12 connections that are deep enough to scoop their interest in Fresno. If Dodd is a Big 12 homer, maybe he is claiming that the conference has no interest in Fresno because the conference is trying to keep their interest under wraps for fear that the PAC might invite us. Probably not, but maybe. Basically, I don't consider sports media to be journalists at all -- just glorified posters. On a topic like this, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Both sides are trying to control their messaging and their fawning press trades unquestioning regurgitation of the party line for access. I'm more likely to disbelieve what they say than to believe it. The mental gymnastics that you are engaging in to keep Fresno relevant in your mind is making me dizzy. Don’t go changing your address quite yet… You guys are likely in the mountain west conference for 15-25 more years. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 6:20:28 GMT -8
The mental gymnastics that you are engaging in to keep Fresno relevant in your mind is making me dizzy. Don’t go changing your address quite yet… You guys are likely in the mountain west conference for 15-25 more years. I just remembered... Dennis Dodd is very good friends with your Athletic Director. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 23, 2023 6:40:53 GMT -8
The mental gymnastics that you are engaging in to keep Fresno relevant in your mind is making me dizzy. Don’t go changing your address quite yet… You guys are likely in the mountain west conference for 15-25 more years. I just remembered... Dennis Dodd is very good friends with your Athletic Director. Why do you believe that Denis Dodd and JD are friends let alone very good friends? |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 6:49:30 GMT -8
I just remembered... Dennis Dodd is very good friends with your Athletic Director. Why do you believe that Denis Dodd and JD are friends let alone very good friends? I know a lot of things that I can't reveal. I've been around a long time. That said, "very" is a judgment and people may or may not agree that the level of friendship reaches the "very" level. I probably shouldn't have said "very" as it doesn't really matter. Friends alone is sufficient to suggest whose bucket of water Dodd might be willing to carry. And to be clear, he isn't necessarily carrying anybody's bucket of water -- it just may be his own poor reporting skills. I know lots of things. For example, I know the names of your expansion consultants. If anybody else does, message me and I can give you enough detail, without naming them, that you know I'm not blowing smoke. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 23, 2023 7:00:14 GMT -8
Why do you believe that Denis Dodd and JD are friends let alone very good friends? I know a lot of things that I can't reveal. I've been around a long time. That said, "very" is a judgment and people may or may not agree that the level of friendship reaches the "very" level. I probably shouldn't have said "very" as it doesn't really matter. Friends alone is sufficient to suggest whose bucket of water Dodd might be willing to carry. And to be clear, he isn't necessarily carrying anybody's bucket of water -- it just may be his own poor reporting skills. I know lots of things. For example, I know the names of your expansion consultants. If anybody else does, message me and I can give you enough detail, without naming them, that you know I'm not blowing smoke. There are… probably a few hundred folks outside of SDSU and double that at State that know those names… I would expect that some of the folks that n is those names leaked… pretty normal |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 23, 2023 7:01:27 GMT -8
Why do you believe that Denis Dodd and JD are friends let alone very good friends? I know a lot of things that I can't reveal. I've been around a long time. That said, "very" is a judgment and people may or may not agree that the level of friendship reaches the "very" level. For example, I know the names of your expansion consultants. If anybody else does, message me and I can give you enough detail that you know I'm not blowing smoke. State's expansion consultants are already publicly known. Delaney, Kevin White, and others via Huron consulting. I am not sure that Dodd and JD are friends, are you implying that Dodd had a thumb on the scale for State? |
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Post by dirtball on Apr 23, 2023 7:14:23 GMT -8
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 7:15:42 GMT -8
I know a lot of things that I can't reveal. I've been around a long time. That said, "very" is a judgment and people may or may not agree that the level of friendship reaches the "very" level. For example, I know the names of your expansion consultants. If anybody else does, message me and I can give you enough detail that you know I'm not blowing smoke. State's expansion consultants are already publicly known. Delaney, Kevin White, and others via Huron consulting. I am not sure that Dodd and JD are friends, are you implying that Dodd had a thumb on the scale for State? I've never seen any of that reported anywhere, but it is obviously out there so no need to be coy. I had Delaney, Karl Benson, and Andrew Luck's dad. He has a consulting firm but I don't know the name so I don't know if it is Huron or not. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 23, 2023 7:23:53 GMT -8
State's expansion consultants are already publicly known. Delaney, Kevin White, and others via Huron consulting. I am not sure that Dodd and JD are friends, are you implying that Dodd had a thumb on the scale for State? I've never seen any of that reported anywhere, but it is obviously out there so no need to be coy. I had Delaney, Karl Benson, and Andrew Luck's dad. He has a consulting firm but I don't know the name so I don't know if it is Huron or not. I don't know what Benson is doing, but I do not believe he is working for Huron or State. As for Oliver Luck, he was hired by UAC (WAC-ASUN) and is trying to get that off the ground. It is very unlikely he is involved. |
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