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Post by docmm on Jul 11, 2022 17:02:00 GMT -8
Like the rest of us, I'm hoping for an invitation to either the Big 12 or Pac 12. I'd prefer the Big 12 with a Western Division just to increase the likelihood of the leftover arrogant Pac 12 members circling the drain. But I'd take any P-5 invite. If we're lucky enough to get into the Big 12 and get R1 status in a couple of years, then I could see the Pac try to pry us away. As the Pac 12/10/8 implodes, I don't think R1 status is going to be able to be the litmus test anymore. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 11, 2022 17:31:02 GMT -8
If we're lucky enough to get into the Big 12 and get R1 status in a couple of years, then I could see the Pac try to pry us away. As the Pac 12/10/8 implodes, I don't think R1 status is going to be able to be the litmus test anymore. Someone on here must know the answer: How many of the "top" 48 teams have R1 status? |
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 11, 2022 20:53:40 GMT -8
Like others I was unable to view the article. Is there anyway someone could provide an overview ? Thank you.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 11, 2022 23:31:23 GMT -8
As the Pac 12/10/8 implodes, I don't think R1 status is going to be able to be the litmus test anymore. Someone on here must know the answer: How many of the "top" 48 teams have R1 status? The only ones that matter are the 10 in the remaining Pac 10 Since it's their conference. Just like all the B1G schools must be AAU members to join theirs. |
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Post by namssa on Jul 12, 2022 0:20:23 GMT -8
As the Pac 12/10/8 implodes, I don't think R1 status is going to be able to be the litmus test anymore. Someone on here must know the answer: How many of the "top" 48 teams have R1 status? TCU and BYU are the only 2 universities currently in a Major 5 conference that is not an R1 university. I know Baylor wasn't until this year, when they became R1 in December 2021. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 12, 2022 5:49:18 GMT -8
Someone on here must know the answer: How many of the "top" 48 teams have R1 status? TCU and BYU are the only 2 universities currently in a Major 5 conference that is not an R1 university. I know Baylor wasn't until this year, when they became R1 in December 2021. Then it would seem to follow, that of the good football programs of any size (not currently in a Major 5), WE are in a very small group of those schools imminently moving into the R1 class. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 12, 2022 5:51:40 GMT -8
Someone on here must know the answer: How many of the "top" 48 teams have R1 status? The only ones that matter are the 10 in the remaining Pac 10 Since it's their conference. Just like all the B1G schools must be AAU members to join theirs. SO many ways they can exclude us, IF that is their desire. |
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Post by goodonyou on Jul 12, 2022 5:57:00 GMT -8
The only ones that matter are the 10 in the remaining Pac 10 Since it's their conference. Just like all the B1G schools must be AAU members to join theirs. SO many ways they can exclude us, IF that is their desire. Nebraska is BIG and not AAU. They're drooling over Notre Dame and Notre Dame is not AAU. So it appears that they can apply/not apply rules as they see fit. |
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Post by namssa on Jul 12, 2022 6:07:05 GMT -8
Nebraska was AAU when they joined the BIG but has since been kicked out. Notre Dame is the exception. They may not be AAU but are TOP notch in education and would be one of the top ranked educational institutions in BIG. In fact, they would rank 2nd behind only Northwestern.
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Post by jalmonb on Jul 12, 2022 6:19:19 GMT -8
 Oldie Out TheThese two leagues will soon have 22 members. Does Wilner think anybody would be left out in a merger? Where would there be room for SDSU?se two leagues will soon have 22 members. Does Wilner think anybody would be left out in a merger? Where would there be room for SDSU? I got excited at first like everyone else till I realized it is about selfish conferences and selfish schools rearranging where the money get distributed. In the business world this would violate a few laws. Doing business as a non-profit and under the banner of "amateur" athlectic competition is like trying to put a fig leaf on the David statute. Big players just dividing up the same ole money differently. GO AZTECS!!! |
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Post by laaztec on Jul 12, 2022 9:06:28 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Jul 12, 2022 9:09:26 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Jul 12, 2022 9:35:24 GMT -8
Isn't their refusal to make a move the past few years, the reason they're in this predicament now? So they're going to double down on their tentative torpor? |
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 12, 2022 10:00:53 GMT -8
Isn't their refusal to make a move the past few years, the reason they're in this predicament now? So they're going to double down on their tentative torpor? Shhhhhhh, let them. |
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Post by aztucho on Jul 12, 2022 10:27:42 GMT -8
That statement is just buying Oregon and Washington some time, and good will, with the other members of their conference, and their local politicians.
They are gone once they get the Big 10 invite.
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Post by hoobs on Jul 12, 2022 11:12:07 GMT -8
If they really mean to stick together, add SDSU & UNLV while renegotiating all members' Grant of Rights terms to lock everyone in
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Post by aztucho on Jul 12, 2022 11:15:41 GMT -8
If they really mean to stick together, add SDSU & UNLV while renegotiating all members' Grant of Rights terms to lock everyone in Exactly, Oregon and Washington don't really want to stick together with the rest of the conference, they just need it to look that way for now. |
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Post by laaztec on Jul 12, 2022 11:26:07 GMT -8
That statement is just buying Oregon and Washington some time, and good will, with the other members of their conference, and their local politicians. They are gone once they get the Big 10 invite. Except the Big 10 would have added them if the wanted them. |
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Post by namssa on Jul 12, 2022 11:29:16 GMT -8
Oregon and Washington have no wear to go. Nothing is going to happen until the ACC GOR gets closer to ending which is still 14 years away. The PAC could easily sign a 4-5 year TV deal and have all 10 teams sign a GOR for that term. At worse, in 3 years, if things change, they can still bolt and only pay 2 years of fees to move. The risk of having nothing is too great. This is how I see it going. Hopefully, in addition, they also decide to expand back to 12. I personally see them doing so, but that's just me.
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Post by soccer94 on Jul 12, 2022 11:43:51 GMT -8
I am cautiously confident that the PAC will at minimum add SDSU and either Fresno State, SMU or UNLV to get to at least 12. Staying at 10 is too dangerous. You lose one or two teams, and you are down below 10 which puts you at risk. I personally think they will try to get to 14 since even 10 it is risky which is where they are now and everyone is panicking. If they go to 14, I would expect them to add SDSU, Fresno St; and some combo of UNLV, Boise State or SMU. I am thinking they add SDSU and Fresno St for Socal and the Valley, SMU to get into BIG-12 country and to increase TV households, then the decision on UNLV or Boise comes down to what is more important, a high level football school with limited TV market size or an important and up and coming TV market with a solid basketball history but a poor football team and following.
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