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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2022 10:08:21 GMT -8
Can't get through the pay wall...
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 11, 2022 10:27:34 GMT -8
From Wilner (love to hate this guy) There's nobody more dialed into the P12/10 than Wilner and more often than not his takes about various programs are fair.
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Post by namssa on Jul 11, 2022 10:32:27 GMT -8
Would be awesome if this came true.
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Post by sdmotohead on Jul 11, 2022 10:53:38 GMT -8
From Wilner (love to hate this guy) Agree about Wilner. He's from San Jose and when Malachi's team barely beat them here on that last-scene shot, he lowballed the Aztecs the rest of the year in the AP Poll. Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book.
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Post by AzTex on Jul 11, 2022 12:22:58 GMT -8
Agree about Wilner. He's from San Jose and when Malachi's team barely beat them here on that last-scene shot, he lowballed the Aztecs the rest of the year in the AP Poll. Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book. It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind.
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Post by greysuit on Jul 11, 2022 12:44:53 GMT -8
Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book. It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind. It sounds like the TV execs want the SoCal Market now that USC and UCLA are spoken for. This now makes SDSU attract to both conferences, in guessing the Big 12 has a lot more interest now especially if they can get Utah and the two AZ schools to create a west coast division along with BYU.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 11, 2022 12:45:08 GMT -8
Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book. It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind. And yet, if you step back, not much has changed since the news of USC and UCLA bolting. In fact, MOST of the latest (other than this) projections of Big 12 expansion, mergers, etc, show as many 5 or 6 possibilities, covering 30 teams, and NONE of them include SDSU. BUT, as others have suggested, maybe this guy is closer to the truth than all the rest. We can hope, which is thinly wafting above and around us. At least it's not buzzards in the air...yet.
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Post by greysuit on Jul 11, 2022 12:46:45 GMT -8
It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind. And yet, if you step back, not much has changed since the news of USC and UCLA bolting. In fact, MOST of the latest (other than this) projections of Big 12 expansion, mergers, etc, show as many 5 or 6 possibilities, covering 30 teams, and NONE of them include SDSU. BUT, as others have suggested, maybe this guy is closer to the truth than all the rest. We can hope, which is thinly wafting above and around us. At least it's not buzzards in the air...yet. It's not official sources but Big 12 fans have been all over adding SDSU and Bosie on Twitter.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jul 11, 2022 12:49:24 GMT -8
Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book. It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind. These two leagues will soon have 22 members. Does Wilner think anybody would be left out in a merger? Where would there be room for SDSU?
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 11, 2022 12:53:49 GMT -8
It does look like our chances are improving, if you believe the reports. Over the last couple of years if we got mentioned at all in an expansion story it was as the #4 team in, or later. Now it seems that the vast majority of stories have us as #1 and fewer have us as #2. So Wilner isn't the only one who has been changing his mind. And yet, if you step back, not much has changed since the news of USC and UCLA bolting. In fact, MOST of the latest (other than this) projections of Big 12 expansion, mergers, etc, show as many 5 or 6 possibilities, covering 30 teams, and NONE of them include SDSU. BUT, as others have suggested, maybe this guy is closer to the truth than all the rest. We can hope, which is thinly wafting above and around us. At least it's not buzzards in the air...yet. Sure, but where are the PAC12 expansion articles? Everything has been really one-sided from a media perspective, which is ironic because another forum poster provided a financial analysis showing that the PAC12 is more valuable now then the BIG12. The same thing happened after the BIG12 took teams from the AAC, everyone was saying "Will the AAC take teams from the Mountain West" and nobody was saying "Will the Mountain West take teams from the AAC", even though the MW is more valuable then the AAC after the BIG12 took some of their teams. It's a west coast bias type thing.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 11, 2022 13:24:12 GMT -8
And yet, if you step back, not much has changed since the news of USC and UCLA bolting. In fact, MOST of the latest (other than this) projections of Big 12 expansion, mergers, etc, show as many 5 or 6 possibilities, covering 30 teams, and NONE of them include SDSU. BUT, as others have suggested, maybe this guy is closer to the truth than all the rest. We can hope, which is thinly wafting above and around us. At least it's not buzzards in the air...yet. It's not official sources but Big 12 fans have been all over adding SDSU and Bosie on Twitter. I love hearing that, but...
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Post by docmm on Jul 11, 2022 14:21:51 GMT -8
Like the rest of us, I'm hoping for an invitation to either the Big 12 or Pac 12. I'd prefer the Big 12 with a Western Division just to increase the likelihood of the leftover arrogant Pac 12 members circling the drain. But I'd take any P-5 invite.
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Post by aztech on Jul 11, 2022 15:38:59 GMT -8
Like the rest of us, I'm hoping for an invitation to either the Big 12 or Pac 12. I'd prefer the Big 12 with a Western Division just to increase the likelihood of the leftover arrogant Pac 12 members circling the drain. But I'd take any P-5 invite. If we're lucky enough to get into the Big 12 and get R1 status in a couple of years, then I could see the Pac try to pry us away.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 11, 2022 15:41:00 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Jul 11, 2022 15:56:44 GMT -8
Damn. I hate this position... seeking, searching for glimmers...DESPARATE to find a girl who'll say yes to me.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 11, 2022 16:10:36 GMT -8
Damn. I hate this position... seeking, searching for glimmers...DESPARATE to find a girl who'll say yes to me. Could be worse.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 11, 2022 16:20:21 GMT -8
Damn. I hate this position... seeking, searching for glimmers...DESPARATE to find a girl who'll say yes to me. Could be worse. LOL. Always. Was it Siddhartha: I used to complain about my shoes, until I saw a man with no feet.
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Post by aztecking on Jul 11, 2022 16:23:43 GMT -8
Agree about Wilner. He's from San Jose and when Malachi's team barely beat them here on that last-scene shot, he lowballed the Aztecs the rest of the year in the AP Poll. Exactly. Wilner has always been critical of the Aztecs. He's been on record numerous times saying things like "...SDSU's chance of getting into the Pac 12 is now not zero, but let's be clear we do not expect to invite them..." He is dialed into the Pac 12 out of San Jose (Pac 12 is based out of SF). So I tend to give him a little more attention than other journalists/experts. So for him to report on some ex-Fox media guy on how SDSU would benefit the Pac 12 positively on it's next media contract is pretty huge in my book. He was the first person to report on USC/UCLA leaving the PAC-12. He should be taken seriously.
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Post by standiego on Jul 11, 2022 16:28:35 GMT -8
So are you going to believe anything until you see it in writing with confirmation from some credible source
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 11, 2022 16:38:28 GMT -8
And yet, if you step back, not much has changed since the news of USC and UCLA bolting. In fact, MOST of the latest (other than this) projections of Big 12 expansion, mergers, etc, show as many 5 or 6 possibilities, covering 30 teams, and NONE of them include SDSU. BUT, as others have suggested, maybe this guy is closer to the truth than all the rest. We can hope, which is thinly wafting above and around us. At least it's not buzzards in the air...yet. It's not official sources but Big 12 fans have been all over adding SDSU and Bosie on Twitter. There haven't been many truths out there of late, but the one thing that does appear to be true is Boise is an afterthought in all this. The more important market size and subscription dollars become the less relevant they are.
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