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Post by sdcoug on Jul 5, 2022 21:13:37 GMT -8
Canzano is very well connected to the P12. He doesn't make stuff is up. A loose partnership with the ACC makes sense, both athletically and academically. Let's just say that someone is yanking his chain. Because If I was just put on blast by the B10 with a partnership, I wouldn't be leading with my chin with another partnership. They didn't have a media deal with either the B1G or ACC, only a handshake to partner in a voting block against the SEC and some scheduling benefits. A loose partnership with.the ACC would benefit both conferences and involve a partnership with ESPN.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 21:14:48 GMT -8
ACC partnership is good for us. still need to fill that So Cal void. Also by the Big 12 not adding The Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah maybe the Big 12 will want to be in So Cal in the future.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Jul 5, 2022 22:24:34 GMT -8
ACC partnership is good for us. still need to fill that So Cal void. Also by the Big 12 not adding The Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah maybe the Big 12 will want to be in So Cal in the future. With the Pac and acc talking partnership for football, They would still be short schools for basketball and oly and the Big 12 wanted to get into cali, there is one solution. Sdsu in big 12 for football and the pac takes sdsu and Gonzaga for oly sports
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 6, 2022 7:07:25 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Jul 6, 2022 7:23:23 GMT -8
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 6, 2022 7:23:30 GMT -8
Maybe we end up with a Pac-12 - Big 12 staredown, with all the schools ending up where they are. The Pac-12 will have to decide whether to stand pat at 10 or invite us and UNLV.
By the way, I never liked Sterk's concentration on the Pac-12 for OOC games. We should hit up mid-level schools from power conferences and one game a year against the AAC. If the Pac-12 doesn't invite us, we should cancel all matchups against them after 2023.
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Post by aztecfred on Jul 6, 2022 7:44:36 GMT -8
With Pac n Big in a circular firing squad , gotta feelin all we're gonna b is witnesses?
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Post by andyfromwashington on Jul 6, 2022 7:46:55 GMT -8
Maybe we end up with a Pac-12 - Big 12 staredown, with all the schools ending up where they are. The Pac-12 will have to decide whether to stand pat at 10 or invite us and UNLV. By the way, I never liked Sterk's concentration on the Pac-12 for OOC games. We should hit up mid-level schools from power conferences and one game a year against the AAC. If the Pac-12 doesn't invite us, we should cancel all matchups against them after 2023. We were smart and lucky to hired Sterk. We became winners and with his past with WSU he had connections to get Pac 12 games.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 6, 2022 9:09:50 GMT -8
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 6, 2022 9:20:46 GMT -8
Maybe we end up with a Pac-12 - Big 12 staredown, with all the schools ending up where they are. The Pac-12 will have to decide whether to stand pat at 10 or invite us and UNLV. By the way, I never liked Sterk's concentration on the Pac-12 for OOC games. We should hit up mid-level schools from power conferences and one game a year against the AAC. If the Pac-12 doesn't invite us, we should cancel all matchups against them after 2023. We were smart and lucky to hired Sterk. We became winners and with his past with WSU he had connections to get Pac 12 games. Agreed. Sterk laid the foundation for success here. I just didn't like how he went overboard on the Pac-12 scheduling. That he had connections to get some games with them was fine. Just not so many. Plus, part of our current problem with a lack of national recognition is that we haven't been playing outside of our backyard. Our last nonconference game against a recognizable program from back east was 2016 at Northern Illinois, which probably didn't help much. The Penn State game was 2015.
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Post by standiego on Jul 6, 2022 9:24:06 GMT -8
The Problem becomes does the Big 12 want to move quickly when it has not always done that in the past
Does TV reveal to conferences what it is willing to pay
Smartest move for the PAC try to see if Houston would still like to be a member of the PAC - If the PAC can get them it really adds quality TV market , quality team in Football and Basketball plus uncredible recruiting
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Post by TruAztec on Jul 6, 2022 9:28:03 GMT -8
I was very excited about our future a few days ago and now I just feel like we will be left out (again). Big 12 wants 4/6 of PAC-12(10). PAC-12 will be going after a few of the BIG 12. ACC is just trying to not be raided by SEC or BIG 10. I think this like the end of Jurassic park with the 3 dinosaurs looking to kill one of the other dinosaurs and no one gives a $#!+ about the little dinosaurs right now.
Until they figure out who will kill who, we wait. You can blame whoever you want, just know we are the king of the dipsh*ts. That still makes us a dipsh*t, not Jake Ryan (stealing from Sixteen Candles).
Hope I am wrong.
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Post by aztecalum on Jul 6, 2022 9:34:18 GMT -8
None of the Pac12 teams (including the four corners) will accept B12 invite before finding out what the Pac12 new TV contract will be. At least 30 days of negotiations with TV networks before they make a decision. Therefore, SDSU has some time to make best most compelling case for invite (new excitement for football with new stadium, will drive higher ratings without Chargers, will drive higher ratings on ABC/ESPN instead of CBSSports, access to SoCal recruiting hotbed, R1 status by 2025, great facilities, etc.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 6, 2022 9:36:29 GMT -8
I was very excited about our future a few days ago and now I just feel like we will be left out (again). Big 12 wants 4/6 of PAC-12(10). PAC-12 will be going after a few of the BIG 12. ACC is just trying to not be raided by SEC or BIG 10. I think this like the end of Jurassic park with the 3 dinosaurs looking to kill one of the other dinosaurs and no one gives a $#!+ about the little dinosaurs right now. Until they figure out who will kill who, we wait. You can blame whoever you want, just know we are the king of the dipsh*ts. That still makes us a dipsh*t, not Jake Ryan (stealing from Sixteen Candles). Hope I am wrong. Yes, ALL exit-sign holders are directing us---with smiling faces--to a big dumpster fire in G-5 Purgatory.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Jul 6, 2022 9:57:40 GMT -8
SDSU is going to be fine. Even if we're still in the MWC when realignment is over is it really that big of a deal?
From a football perspective the only conference that really matters is the SEC. It's pretty much been the SEC and Clemson dominating the last 15-20 years. The Big 10 isn't even competitive unless you count losing in the CFB playoffs. The PAC, Big 12, MWC, AAC, etc. are all irreverent.
From a basketball perspective it doesn't really matter since the tournament is a true playoff. If SDSU wins every game they are the national champ regardless of conference affiliation.
The remaining sports, how many people really care?
Don't get me wrong as I'd love to see SDSU improve their position. It would be more fun to watch the Aztecs battle against Oklahoma State instead of San Jose State. The additional revenue would certainly help. State has put themselves in a good position to upgrade. If it doesn't happen things aren't as doom and gloom as many of you are making it out to be.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 6, 2022 10:05:45 GMT -8
SDSU is going to be fine. Even if we're still in the MWC when realignment is over is it really that big of a deal? From a football perspective the only conference that really matters is the SEC. It's pretty much been the SEC and Clemson dominating the last 15-20 years. The Big 10 isn't even competitive unless you count losing in the CFB playoffs. The PAC, Big 12, MWC, AAC, etc. are all irreverent. From a basketball perspective it doesn't really matter since the tournament is a true playoff. If SDSU wins every game they are the national champ regardless of conference affiliation. The remaining sports, how many people really care? Don't get me wrong as I'd love to see SDSU improve their position. It would be more fun to watch the Aztecs battle against Oklahoma State instead of San Jose State. The additional revenue would certainly help. State has put themselves in a good position to upgrade. If it doesn't happen things aren't as doom and gloom as many of you are making it out to be. I think what you may be missing is that with each round of conferences realigning, the one constant is that we stagnate, peddling faster and faster on our Pelotons; and THAT is slow death eventually.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 6, 2022 10:40:09 GMT -8
We were smart and lucky to hired Sterk. We became winners and with his past with WSU he had connections to get Pac 12 games. Agreed. Sterk laid the foundation for success here. I just didn't like how he went overboard on the Pac-12 scheduling. That he had connections to get some games with them was fine. Just not so many. Plus, part of our current problem with a lack of national recognition is that we haven't been playing outside of our backyard. Our last nonconference game against a recognizable program from back east was 2016 at Northern Illinois, which probably didn't help much. The Penn State game was 2015. We have Missouri coming up, and go to Central Michigan in a couple years as well as Toledo & Louisiana Tech after that. I personally prefer west coast non-con games, and love the P12 venues. It gives us great exposure out west, into a conference we'd love to join, while making it an affordable & easier road trip for our fans. As for Penn St, no decent B1G or even ACC team will play us home & away, and we're beyond participating in punching bag pay for play away games. Once all the dust has settled, and assuming the B12 & P12 don't hate each other, if we did get into the P12 then the next step would be to schedule a P5 game in the midwest, such as a B12 team in Texas (TCU, Houston, etc.). And if we end up in the B12, then staying with P12 non-con only makes sense. If neither, I'd take the P12 over the B12 90% of the time, and definitely would not be in favor of any AAC games unless it's in a bowl. The MWC is a better conference than the AAC, and no reason to help prop them up.
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Post by survalli on Jul 6, 2022 11:46:32 GMT -8
Not sure i buy this, but he doubles down on this with another tweet.
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Post by Old School on Jul 6, 2022 11:54:06 GMT -8
Oldie Out
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Post by sdsustoner on Jul 6, 2022 12:00:14 GMT -8
SDSU is going to be fine. Even if we're still in the MWC when realignment is over is it really that big of a deal? From a football perspective the only conference that really matters is the SEC. It's pretty much been the SEC and Clemson dominating the last 15-20 years. The Big 10 isn't even competitive unless you count losing in the CFB playoffs. The PAC, Big 12, MWC, AAC, etc. are all irreverent. From a basketball perspective it doesn't really matter since the tournament is a true playoff. If SDSU wins every game they are the national champ regardless of conference affiliation. The remaining sports, how many people really care? Don't get me wrong as I'd love to see SDSU improve their position. It would be more fun to watch the Aztecs battle against Oklahoma State instead of San Jose State. The additional revenue would certainly help. State has put themselves in a good position to upgrade. If it doesn't happen things aren't as doom and gloom as many of you are making it out to be. You know those recruits the Aztecs got who also got P-5 offers? Good-bye to getting more of them
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