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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 18:14:05 GMT -8
One other thing, if the MW has the option to throw a lifeline to Oregon State, Washington State and Kal, I wouldn't do it. I view them as more mouths to feed without a corresponding revenue increase. I might, well, maybe, take the Bears solo to get a better foothold into the Bay Area. Stanford will never be in the MW, just can't see that kind of humility from them ever. They would take their ball and go home. Either independence or shuttering. Independence would require they play in the WCC (no way they play in the big west), and I don't see a bunch of Catholic Schools doing Stanford any favors considering their near endorsement of their band's shenanigans. Without the prestige of the PAC12, Cal is nothing more than UC Irvine. Just another entity vying for attention. And to much bigger degree the same goes for WSU and OSU. I would pass on inviting any of them. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 18:22:31 GMT -8
One other thing, if the MW has the option to throw a lifeline to Oregon State, Washington State and Kal, I wouldn't do it. I view them as more mouths to feed without a corresponding revenue increase. I might, well, maybe, take the Bears solo to get a better foothold into the Bay Area. One last thought, these universities, their media, and their fans have $#!+ on our university, our fans, and our Athletic Programs forever. Even today, these same schools are trying how not to invite State. If it comes to pass that these fucuuuckers need a home for their sports, I say eff them. If there were on fire, I wouldn't piss on them. |
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Post by survalli on Jul 5, 2022 19:37:22 GMT -8
One other thing, if the MW has the option to throw a lifeline to Oregon State, Washington State and Kal, I wouldn't do it. I view them as more mouths to feed without a corresponding revenue increase. I might, well, maybe, take the Bears solo to get a better foothold into the Bay Area. One last thought, these universities, their media, and their fans have $#!+ on our university, our fans, and our Athletic Programs forever. Even today, these same schools are trying how not to invite State. If it comes to pass that these fucuuuckers need a home for their sports, I say eff them. If there were on fire, I wouldn't piss on them. think on the positive side, these same powers did the same to Utah and TCU, now look at them? Powers within their respective conferences. |
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Post by omnipotentaztec on Jul 5, 2022 19:41:40 GMT -8
I am thankful for the fact we play 2 PAC12 schools this year, including their new football powerhouse, Utah. The Utah game is a our opportunity to shove a football into the arrogant arces of the so called football elite who continue to refuse to acknowledge that SDSU deserves to play in their conference(s). The opportunity to make our case on the field is here. I could not be more excited for that game.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 5, 2022 19:57:24 GMT -8
I am thankful for the fact we play 2 PAC12 schools this year, including their new football powerhouse, Utah. The Utah game is a our opportunity to shove a football into the arrogant arces of the so called football elite who continue to refuse to acknowledge that SDSU deserves to play in their conference(s). The opportunity to make our case on the field is here. I could not be more excited for that game. They are never going to see us as their equals. Never |
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Post by namssa on Jul 5, 2022 20:06:00 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Jul 5, 2022 20:13:04 GMT -8
It means that they are constructing a path to avoid SDSU’s participation.
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Post by laaztec on Jul 5, 2022 20:13:59 GMT -8
They really really don’t want to add SDSU. All the PAC 10 is doing is rearranging the deck chairs on Titanic. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 20:14:02 GMT -8
I am thankful for the fact we play 2 PAC12 schools this year, including their new football powerhouse, Utah. The Utah game is a our opportunity to shove a football into the arrogant arces of the so called football elite who continue to refuse to acknowledge that SDSU deserves to play in their conference(s). The opportunity to make our case on the field is here. I could not be more excited for that game. They are never going to see us as their equals. Never They don't even see State as an inferior. They view State as dregs. Unfortunately, the only set of people that are bigger douchebags are the media. And the media dumps on State like no other. After more thought, there is no scenario where State will be invited to either the PAC or Big 12. We should stop hoping otherwise and just focus on State becoming a power from where we sit today. 1. The Stadium will be a catalyst in terms of revenue and environment. They need to funnel every incremental dollar back into football (recruiting and education bonuses). 2. With SC and UCLA moving to the Big where there are 9 conference games, playing in Socal will be at a premium. State needs to stop playing PAC schools OOC and focus their attention to Eastern Universities. The SEC and ACC in particular. Starve the PAC of the recruiting grounds. 3. A group of concerned citizens should fund a drive for a proposition to be put on the ballot rescinding the California Master Plan for education and allowing CSU's to offer any degree They are declined to offer. 4. State needs to be creative with the NIL landscape and grow a base of regional businesses that would fund the NIL pool and programs. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 5, 2022 20:15:42 GMT -8
They are never going to see us as their equals. Never They don't even see State as an inferior. They view State as dregs. Unfortunately, the only set of people that are bigger douchebags are the media. And the media dumps on State like no other. After more thought, there is no scenario where State will be invited to either the PAC or Big 12. We should stop hoping otherwise and just focus on State becoming a power from where we sit today. 1. The Stadium will be a catalyst in terms of revenue and environment. They need to funnel every incremental dollar back into football (recruiting and education bonuses). 2. With SC and UCLA moving to the Big where there are 9 conference games, playing in Socal will be at a premium. State needs to stop playing PAC schools OOC and focus their attention to Eastern Universities. The SEC and ACC in particular. Starve the PAC of the recruiting grounds. 3. A group of concerned citizens should fund a drive for a proposition to be put on the ballot rescinding the California Master Plan for education and allowing CSU's to offer any degree They are declined to offer. 4. State needs to be creative with the NIL landscape and grow a base of regional businesses that would fund the NIL pool and programs. Damn well said |
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Post by omnipotentaztec on Jul 5, 2022 20:23:10 GMT -8
I agree with the above. A partnership/alliance with B12 means we are out and done with any hope on either side. My only hope is that the PAC and B12 are both too arrogant, narcissistic, and greedy, to reach an agreement and they are forced to go to a Plan B (or C), which might include us.
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Post by namssa on Jul 5, 2022 20:24:30 GMT -8
Our only saving grace is I just don't know if the PAC can ignore the Southern California region. Too many schools recruit and participate is so many things down here for them to just write the area off. They actually may need us.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 5, 2022 20:32:58 GMT -8
Our only saving grace is I just don't know if the PAC can ignore the Southern California region. Too many schools recruit and participate is so many things down here for them to just write the area off. They actually may need us. The thing is, USC and UCLA will likely gain MORE recruits, not fewer, and the pie will simply be sliced into smaller pieces for SDSU and others. SoCal recruiting went away with those two schools, IMO. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 20:33:48 GMT -8
Our only saving grace is I just don't know if the PAC can ignore the Southern California region. Too many schools recruit and participate is so many things down here for them to just write the area off. They actually may need us. Their arrogance knows no bounds, I am pretty sure they have already convinced themselves that with all the Zonies at PB during the summer Arizona has a better penetration of the SD market than State. |
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Post by omnipotentaztec on Jul 5, 2022 20:37:07 GMT -8
Our only saving grace is I just don't know if the PAC can ignore the Southern California region. Too many schools recruit and participate is so many things down here for them to just write the area off. They actually may need us. Yes, a presence in Southern Cal. might be the deciding factor when all is said and done. |
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Post by aztecalum on Jul 5, 2022 20:46:28 GMT -8
It’s a numbers business, is SDSU worth $30M per year in value? With SC and UCLA leaving it is estimated the Pac-12 new TV deal will go down from $500M to $300M (40% reduction) however if you split the pie by 10 schools instead of 12 the blow is lessen with each school netting $30M per year. The question they will investigate, by adding SDSU and another school does the value stay at $300M or go up to $360M? Does the San Diego and Las Vegas market move the needle?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 21:02:51 GMT -8
It’s a numbers business, is SDSU worth $30M per year in value? With SC and UCLA leaving it is estimated the Pac-12 new TV deal will go down from $500M to $300M (40% reduction) however if you split the pie by 10 schools instead of 12 the blow is lessen with each school netting $30M per year. The question they will investigate, by adding SDSU and another school does the value stay at $300M or go up to $360M? Does the San Diego and Las Vegas market move the needle? This is very true and based on those numbers there are no additions out west that would move the needle. However, there are other things to consider like potential growth of that institution and the surrounding area for recruiting. It helps to sell kids to attend your university if you can tell them that you will play a game in their hometown. It is what the PAC 12 has been selling kids outside of the LA market. This is why State needs to drop the PAC from the schedule. Better to drop those schools to give yourself a better recruiting edge and look to replace with Eastern based schools. I would go so fa as to say to not schedule the B12 as well. |
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 5, 2022 21:04:32 GMT -8
We are stuck in the MWC for ever. This guy is making stuff up, the PAC just got worked on their last partnership. I have hard time believing that those Presidents are sitting there saying to themselves, "You know the last partnership didn't quite work out, we just didn't partner correctly, let's do it again but this time do the partnering stuff correctly." If they do, the PAC won't see the shovel head until it's breaking their collective noses. Canzano is very well connected to the P12. He doesn't make stuff is up. A loose partnership with the ACC makes sense, both athletically and academically. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 5, 2022 21:08:17 GMT -8
This guy is making stuff up, the PAC just got worked on their last partnership. I have hard time believing that those Presidents are sitting there saying to themselves, "You know the last partnership didn't quite work out, we just didn't partner correctly, let's do it again but this time do the partnering stuff correctly." If they do, the PAC won't see the shovel head until it's breaking their collective noses. Canzano is very well connected to the P12. He doesn't make stuff is up. A loose partnership with the ACC makes sense, both athletically and academically. Let's just say that someone is yanking his chain. Because If I was just put on blast by the B10 with a partnership, I wouldn't be leading with my chin with another partnership. |
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Post by survalli on Jul 5, 2022 21:09:50 GMT -8
ACC partnership is good for us. still need to fill that So Cal void.
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