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Post by aardvark on Jul 21, 2021 9:45:23 GMT -8
Why are you surprised that they would use Nola at first against tough lefties? That will keep Cronenworth at his best position, second base. No conspiracy here. That's not what was said....Lol. I know you just read everything that others post and assume it as gospel, but that isn't the case here. Hosmer's better against lefties this year than righties, for what's it worth....and he was benched multiple times against righties already this season. Nola's rehab stint was almost exclusively done at first base...and that isn't pure coincidence. With him unable to catch multiple games in a row, he's going to play a fair bit of first. Nola's rehab stint has consisted of 4 games at 1st (none since July 13th), 3 games catching (never catching all 9 innings), 3 games as a DH, and 1 game as a pinch-hitter.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 21, 2021 10:12:07 GMT -8
Don't see it. I doubt they carry 3 catchers and don't see them starting both very often. I think he'll get the rare start at 1B, but as Acee notes I think he'll split time behind the plate and give us a decent righty bat off the bench. Would be a mistake. Nola's plate discipline is very good and when this team is grinding away in the box, they are a much more dangerous team to face. But we'll see. Would like to see Kim at second and Cronenworth at first more often. Defensively, Kim is borderline elite. No argument from me on Kim, whether at 2nd, SS or 3rd. It's good knowing we have a stud defender off the bench. If we had the DH Kim could rotate around the infield every week.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2021 11:05:38 GMT -8
That's not what was said....Lol. I know you just read everything that others post and assume it as gospel, but that isn't the case here. Hosmer's better against lefties this year than righties, for what's it worth....and he was benched multiple times against righties already this season. Nola's rehab stint was almost exclusively done at first base...and that isn't pure coincidence. With him unable to catch multiple games in a row, he's going to play a fair bit of first. Nola's rehab stint has consisted of 4 games at 1st (none since July 13th), 3 games catching (never catching all 9 innings), 3 games as a DH, and 1 game as a pinch-hitter. I know. I covered two of the games he played at first. He couldn't catch early because he had discomfort sliding to his right. That knee is still going to be fragile the rest of the way, I think. And the catchers have taken a beating behind the dish this year.
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Post by junior on Jul 21, 2021 11:20:53 GMT -8
All the talk is about Nola's defense, but it'll be interesting to see how much the injury affects him offensively if at all. With the lateral torque involved in hitting, if he's got discomfort sliding to his right, there may be some movements he makes during swings that also create discomfort. I hope the Padres continue to bring him back slowly and carefully. He's not really of much use as a first or second baseman where there is already some depth. Catcher continues to be a shallow position for the Padres, relatively.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 21, 2021 11:59:34 GMT -8
Nola's rehab stint has consisted of 4 games at 1st (none since July 13th), 3 games catching (never catching all 9 innings), 3 games as a DH, and 1 game as a pinch-hitter. I know. I covered two of the games he played at first. He couldn't catch early because he had discomfort sliding to his right. That knee is still going to be fragile the rest of the way, I think. And the catchers have taken a beating behind the dish this year. Was just responding to your comment stating that Nola's rehab stint was almost exclusively done at first base, which was not the case.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2021 13:37:17 GMT -8
I know. I covered two of the games he played at first. He couldn't catch early because he had discomfort sliding to his right. That knee is still going to be fragile the rest of the way, I think. And the catchers have taken a beating behind the dish this year. Was just responding to your comment stating that Nola's rehab stint was almost exclusively done at first base, which was not the case. In the beginning, it was. But you're correct. Tough spot because they want Campusano to catch regularly down there as well.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 9, 2021 22:00:26 GMT -8
I don't think you get it. It's not about him hitting .409 in July, it's about he's made improvements & thus far they're working. Nobody expects him to hit .300 moving forward, only that I don't expect him to hit .172 either. Over the past 30 days he's been among the top 5-6 hitting 1B's in the game, so why can't people enjoy that without you criticizing them for doing so? 21 games, 67 ABs isn't a blip. Yes, I'd love to see a few singles turn into doubles & a few doubles turned into HR's and to see him improve his walk rate, but a .949 OPS over those 30 days isn't something to sneeze at. I'm not expecting him to be our clean-up hitter or even a top 5 guy in our line-up. If he can simply be a productive 6 (vs. righties)/7 (vs. occasional lefties) hitter in our line-up that's good enough for me. I'm also not saying I don't think he'll get more days off, or that it wouldn't be great to upgrade the position. But if Hosmer's 30-day streak continues into 40 the pressure to do so is much less IMO. If he slides down to sub .200 over that span then we'll see. I'm just hoping that doesn't happen, and he settles in somewhere in the range of a .825 OPS. Last season he was .851, but in a limited timeframe. I do not think he's a .727 guy either. Only time will tell, not pessimism. I'm a realist. That's all. The larger picture is he needs to be an elite hitter, or in that ballpark, to be a net positive asset. .270/.320/.400 isn't good enough, when you factor in the rest of the profile. That's all I've got. Still hate Hosmer? Guy has been fantastic and thinking we're beyond a small sample size. While we don't need him to be elite, he's been close.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 10, 2021 0:07:22 GMT -8
I'm a realist. That's all. The larger picture is he needs to be an elite hitter, or in that ballpark, to be a net positive asset. .270/.320/.400 isn't good enough, when you factor in the rest of the profile. That's all I've got. Still hate Hosmer? Guy has been fantastic and thinking we're beyond a small sample size. While we don't need him to be elite, he's been close. Hosmer's been very consistent since July. It's a long baseball season and he's always had the talent to do what he's doing now, even though a few here doubted him, big time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 6:24:36 GMT -8
Hosmer in July: .360/.430/.493 .924 OPS Hosmer in August: .318/.400/.636 1.036 OPS So, since the All Star Break he has a .939 OPS. Hits great at Petco, not so well on the road. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8857/splits
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2021 7:31:34 GMT -8
Still hate Hosmer? Guy has been fantastic and thinking we're beyond a small sample size. While we don't need him to be elite, he's been close. Hosmer's been very consistent since July. It's a long baseball season and he's always had the talent to do what he's doing now, even though a few here doubted him, big time. Eyeroll. He has five extra base hits in his last 20 games. Since July 1st, 32 games, he has 25 singles and 9 extra base hits. Still with a BABIP of over .400, still with a groundball/flyball ratio of over 1.8:1. Thank the baseball gods. It's not about talent and never has been. Glad he's finally "producing" in some capacity.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 10, 2021 9:01:55 GMT -8
Hosmer in July: .360/.430/.493 .924 OPS Hosmer in August: .318/.400/.636 1.036 OPS So, since the All Star Break he has a .939 OPS. Hits great at Petco, not so well on the road. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8857/splitsHe's been terrific. Even if he slides some & is closer to .280/.330 w/ a .850+ OPS he's still giving the team what it needs from him. We just need Pham & Myers to get going again. The Nola/Caratini combo has been terrific as well, and seem to have their assignments etched in stone.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 10, 2021 9:29:11 GMT -8
Hosmer's been very consistent since July. It's a long baseball season and he's always had the talent to do what he's doing now, even though a few here doubted him, big time. Eyeroll. He has five extra base hits in his last 20 games. Since July 1st, 32 games, he has 25 singles and 9 extra base hits. Still with a BABIP of over .400, still with a groundball/flyball ratio of over 1.8:1. Thank the baseball gods. It's not about talent and never has been. Glad he's finally "producing" in some capacity. Lol. Never been about talent. He sure has pissed you off Ryan. Sheesh. My guess is that since he's an anti vaxxer, he could never do anything right, and you'll accentuate ANYTHING that comes along that he isn't doing GREAT in. Can't you separate the issues? Isn't that what good journalists do? Again, sheesh. Just trying to figure out why you're the only one who bashes him, even when he's doing very well.
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Post by junior on Aug 10, 2021 10:07:19 GMT -8
Hosmer is no longer the guy that makes me cringe when he comes up to the plate during a rally. That honor - LOL - has now gone to Wil Myers.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2021 10:15:22 GMT -8
Eyeroll. He has five extra base hits in his last 20 games. Since July 1st, 32 games, he has 25 singles and 9 extra base hits. Still with a BABIP of over .400, still with a groundball/flyball ratio of over 1.8:1. Thank the baseball gods. It's not about talent and never has been. Glad he's finally "producing" in some capacity. Lol. Never been about talent. He sure has pissed you off Ryan. Sheesh. My guess is that since he's an anti vaxxer, he could never do anything right, and you'll accentuate ANYTHING that comes along that he isn't doing GREAT in. Can't you separate the issues? Isn't that what good journalists do? Again, sheesh. Just trying to figure out why you're the only one who bashes him, even when he's doing very well. Cringe. I'm not pissed off...I expect more. It's very simple. I don't get caught up in recency bias, it causes a person to lose objectivity. Your thinly veiled jabs are...something. Your inability to connect two ideas together is confounding. (Not about journalism, not about being a "professional"....it's about baseball.) If you truly think I'm the only person on the planet who bashes Eric Hosmer, widen your lens because you live in a bubble. I've provided more than a few articles to the contrary and my criticism remains very mild, and more importantly, backed up by statistics. Has nothing to do with his vaccination status, that just makes him an idiot. Not relevant to the on-the-field product at all. Sorry for having standards. I still am in amazement, perpetually, why people choose *this* hill to plant a flag on. I don't care if he's having a BABIP-fueled month long streak of good luck, I care if he's performing up to the level that he needs to be to provide value for what is expected from the position. Not a hot take, not controversial. Simple, basic truth.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2021 10:27:19 GMT -8
I'm a realist. That's all. The larger picture is he needs to be an elite hitter, or in that ballpark, to be a net positive asset. .270/.320/.400 isn't good enough, when you factor in the rest of the profile. That's all I've got. Still hate Hosmer? Guy has been fantastic and thinking we're beyond a small sample size. While we don't need him to be elite, he's been close. 32 games is still a pretty small sample size. Players hit over .400 during stretches of that size. I'd like to point out again that BABIP numbers take a long, long time to stabilize. And I don't hate anyone, to be clear. Undermines the point that ultimately matters. Even with this epic streak...he's the 24th-ranked first baseman out of 25 in baseball. That's...fantastic.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 10, 2021 10:41:21 GMT -8
Still hate Hosmer? Guy has been fantastic and thinking we're beyond a small sample size. While we don't need him to be elite, he's been close. 32 games. I'd like to point out again that BABIP numbers take a long, long time to stabilize for some hitters. And I don't hate anyone. Undermines the point that ultimately matters. Over the course of 104 games played, 32 is no longer "recency bias" or even a "small sample size". It's nearly one-third of all the games he's appeared in, and it also ignores the 100 ABs (another 26 games) in April. Right now the outlier, if there is one, appears to be June. When you were complaining constantly about him in early to mid July that was a more limited sample size. We're nearly 4 weeks later! We know he's not a power hitter - that's not changing, and expecting him to become one is a useless exercise. His salary is also a sunk cost. But what we do see from him is someone who's been excellent for the past 6 weeks or so, and that's what we need in our line-up. Until he falters, or reverts to his early June trends, it's good to have him in the line-up & hope he stays there on a regular basis.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2021 10:51:34 GMT -8
32 games. I'd like to point out again that BABIP numbers take a long, long time to stabilize for some hitters. And I don't hate anyone. Undermines the point that ultimately matters. Over the course of 104 games played, 32 is no longer "recency bias". It's nearly one-third of all the games he's appeared in, and it also ignores the 100 ABs (another 26 games) in April. Right now the outlier, if there is one, appears to be June. We know he's not a power hitter - that's not changing, and expecting him to become one is a useless exercise. His salary is also a sunk cost. But what we do see from him is someone who's been excellent for the past 6 weeks or so, and that's what we need in our line-up. Until he falters, or reverts to his early June trends, it's good to have him in the line-up & hope he stays there on a regular basis. That's the problem...your first baseman cannot provide zero power. It destroys the rest of the profile, especially when you don't bring anything else to the table. You can't be a pure singles hitter at a position that requires at least some kind of extra base threat. He's a league average hitter, so that's just not something I feel compelled to celebrate? If you want to look at actual elite production - Manny Machado across the same exact timeframe : .353/.415/.672. 183 wRC+. 20 extra bases, including 9 home runs. His BABIP is 40 points lower than Hosmer's, too. Just about numbers here. I'm glad Hosmer's on a good run, team needs every ounce of offense it can get to beat these bad teams.
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Post by junior on Aug 10, 2021 11:54:45 GMT -8
[sarcasm] Hos is working hard on the extra bases. He's been thrown out at least twice in the past week trying to stretch his singles into doubles. [/sarcasm]
I give him some credit for the Charlie Hustle on those, but he's gotta be smart about when he tries this…
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Post by aardvark on Aug 10, 2021 12:00:49 GMT -8
[sarcasm] Hos is working hard on the extra bases. He's been thrown out at least twice in the past week trying to stretch his singles into doubles. [/sarcasm] I give him some credit for the Charlie Hustle on those, but he's gotta be smart about when he tries this…Don't forget about the dreadful stolen base attempt on Sunday. Has Hosmer made it to 2nd yet?
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 10, 2021 12:39:30 GMT -8
Over the course of 104 games played, 32 is no longer "recency bias". It's nearly one-third of all the games he's appeared in, and it also ignores the 100 ABs (another 26 games) in April. Right now the outlier, if there is one, appears to be June. We know he's not a power hitter - that's not changing, and expecting him to become one is a useless exercise. His salary is also a sunk cost. But what we do see from him is someone who's been excellent for the past 6 weeks or so, and that's what we need in our line-up. Until he falters, or reverts to his early June trends, it's good to have him in the line-up & hope he stays there on a regular basis. That's the problem...your first baseman cannot provide zero power. It destroys the rest of the profile, especially when you don't bring anything else to the table. You can't be a pure singles hitter at a position that requires at least some kind of extra base threat. He's a league average hitter, so that's just not something I feel compelled to celebrate? If you want to look at actual elite production - Manny Machado across the same exact timeframe : .353/.415/.672. 183 wRC+. 20 extra bases, including 9 home runs. His BABIP is 40 points lower than Hosmer's, too. Just about numbers here. I'm glad Hosmer's on a good run, team needs every ounce of offense it can get to beat these bad teams. Your so stuck on traditional definitions it's clouding your judgement. You do not NEED power from your 1B if you have power elsewhere in your line-up. LAD won the WS last year with their primary 1B hitting .197/.331/.389/720! The year before that the Nat's won with their primary 1B hitting .226/.276/.465/.741; worse if you include Zimmerman. Hosmer's .279/.343/.401/.744 & climbing is on par if not better than both. Our team OPS ranks 11th in all of baseball this season; our SLG 13th, and that's with our #1 power hitter on the sidelines for much of the season. You don't have to "celebrate" Hosmer's production, but you should at least open your eyes & get past your biases. He's not the one hurting us right now and of late he's even been earning his paycheck!
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