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Post by azteccc on Jul 2, 2022 23:24:54 GMT -8
here are bad LEO’s, no doubt, but they are in the 1% class. There's actually been a case in California where LEOs are doing really good work taking a violent racketeering organzation off the streets. I can't find a good article about it, but just go to Google and search "LASD gangs"
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Post by azteccc on Jul 2, 2022 23:25:05 GMT -8
Ok, I give, clear thinking of a radical left agenda is not in the cards for people with a thought process greater than a double-digit IQ. Actually, a LEO career isn't in the cards for people with more than a double-digit IQ. Courts have repeadtedly ruled that upper IQ limits in LEO hiring practices are legal, and it is widespread. They do not want smart, self-thinking people to join the force/academy. What a wild thing to type on a thread about racist cops, jesus lol. "North County pureblood" - What's your favorite Monster Energy flavor and do you have any suggestions on white sunglasses I can find? Not any of us are active duty, but we all did our time Actually, that's not really how that works. Ask a Marine if they think of you as equals, and if you get a truthful response you'll be knocked down three pegs real quick. Active duty is deserving of respect, none of those gangs that you listed deserve a lick of respect. Individuals within those organizations can earn respect, but few actually do. Then get your pureblood brothers in order if you don't want to be hated. Police your own and quit whining about it. As long as you close ranks (you know, like a gang) when one of your coworkers murders someone, people will continue to bring soup to protests. No, it absolutely isn't. And y'all can cosplay amongst yourselves all you want at the scotch party circlejrks, but once again, you're #22.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 9:43:24 GMT -8
As expected, the bodycam footage of Jayland Walker's murder is horrific. I will not post it, but it's available for viewing online.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 11:19:09 GMT -8
Do you believe that Police Officer Kim Potter knew it was a gun that she drew out of her holster? Of course. They are on opposite sides of the body for a reason, this exact reason. She was an officer for 26 years. If she didn't know, then she shouldn't have been weaponized. And she'll serve 14 months in prison while Daunte Wright's family has a lifetime of grief. If you believe this, then you believe she intentionally murdered him. I don't know if she has a history of issues with people of color, so I'll have to look into that. I believe she got the lighter sentence, because they felt she made a tragic mistake in panic, and pulled out what she believed was the taser.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 11:51:55 GMT -8
As expected, the bodycam footage of Jayland Walker's murder is horrific. I will not post it, but it's available for viewing online. Just watched it. What a horrible tragedy that did not need to occur. My wish is that the tasers would have got their mark, since the tragedy would not have occured. Jayland shot at the cops during the car chase. Not good. Then he fled with a ski mask on. Not good, because the police officers don't know if he still has the gun on him. Once Jayland turned around and faced the officers during the foot chase, the officers have to assume that he still has the gun, and he may shoot at them since he already did. Really tragic situation. Don't shoot at cops, don't run from them. Bad things will happen if you do.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 12:02:52 GMT -8
Of course. They are on opposite sides of the body for a reason, this exact reason. She was an officer for 26 years. If she didn't know, then she shouldn't have been weaponized. And she'll serve 14 months in prison while Daunte Wright's family has a lifetime of grief. If you believe this, then you believe she intentionally murdered him. I don't know if she has a history of issues with people of color, so I'll have to look into that. I believe she got the lighter sentence, because they felt she made a tragic mistake in panic, and pulled out what she believed was the taser. Of course. But a 26 year veteran cannot make that mistake. Lives depend on it. I'm not a psychologist, so I won't speak to her mindset...but these "accidents" are widely accepted and forgotten about. Circles back to why cops are largely never prosecuted. They are given wide latitude under the law to protect their own safety and their judgment is implicitly trusted, often when it shouldn't be.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 12:11:20 GMT -8
As expected, the bodycam footage of Jayland Walker's murder is horrific. I will not post it, but it's available for viewing online. Just watched it. What a horrible tragedy that did not need to occur. My wish is that the tasers would have got their mark, since the tragedy would not have occured. Jayland shot at the cops during the car chase. Not good. Then he fled with a ski mask on. Not good, because the police officers don't know if he still has the gun on him. Once Jayland turned around and faced the officers during the foot chase, the officers have to assume that he still has the gun, and he may shoot at them since he already did. Really tragic situation. Don't shoot at cops, don't run from them. Bad things will happen if you do. A horrible tragedy that did not need to happen because poorly trained police officers shot a person in the back who was running away from them. They'll hide, as usual, behind the threat to life excuse and likely avoid prosecution. The double standard and racial divide just keeps chugging along.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 12:17:06 GMT -8
Just watched it. What a horrible tragedy that did not need to occur. My wish is that the tasers would have got their mark, since the tragedy would not have occured. Jayland shot at the cops during the car chase. Not good. Then he fled with a ski mask on. Not good, because the police officers don't know if he still has the gun on him. Once Jayland turned around and faced the officers during the foot chase, the officers have to assume that he still has the gun, and he may shoot at them since he already did. Really tragic situation. Don't shoot at cops, don't run from them. Bad things will happen if you do. A horrible tragedy that did not need to happen because poorly trained police officers shot a person in the back who was running away from them. They'll hide, as usual, behind the threat to life excuse and likely avoid prosecution. The double standard and racial divide just keeps chugging along. I thought he turned towards the police officers?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 12:23:00 GMT -8
A horrible tragedy that did not need to happen because poorly trained police officers shot a person in the back who was running away from them. They'll hide, as usual, behind the threat to life excuse and likely avoid prosecution. The double standard and racial divide just keeps chugging along. I thought he turned towards the police officers? Believe what you will. Nothing I saw on the bodycam footage makes that clear. And even if he turned towards the officers, eight of them, not a single one of them recognized he didn't have a firearm. Pretty amazing.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 12:34:00 GMT -8
I thought he turned towards the police officers? Believe what you will. Nothing I saw on the bodycam footage makes that clear. And even if he turned towards the officers, eight of them, not a single one of them recognized he didn't have a firearm. Pretty amazing. That's a split second decision Ryan. By the time you TRY to decipher whether or not he has a gun, he can pull the trigger. If he got on the ground and face down with his hands out, he would have had better chance. You NEVER turn around to look at the officers chasing you, especially after you've already shot at them. The officers have a right to go back home their families as well.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 12:43:18 GMT -8
Believe what you will. Nothing I saw on the bodycam footage makes that clear. And even if he turned towards the officers, eight of them, not a single one of them recognized he didn't have a firearm. Pretty amazing. That's a split second decision Ryan. By the time you TRY to decipher whether or not he has a gun, he can pull the trigger. If he got on the ground and face down with his hands out, he would have had better chance. You NEVER turn around to look at the officers chasing you, especially after you've already shot at them. The officers have a right to go back home their families as well. Yes, the "don't flee, just comply" defense I've seen floated around social media all day today. That's worked really well in the past. Don't worry, they get to go home on paid administrative leave and police union protection for the lynching of yet another Black individual. It'll get swept under the rug as Akron PD controls the narrative with their press conferences. Same song, same dance. Traffic violation? 60 rounds into your body and then you get handcuffed after you're already dead. Unarmed? Oops, our bad. We get to plead ignorance and hide behind the badge with the wide latitude given for officer safety.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 12:54:37 GMT -8
Huh. Wow. Wonder white the difference is.
Oh, sorry, I meant what.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 13:00:26 GMT -8
That's a split second decision Ryan. By the time you TRY to decipher whether or not he has a gun, he can pull the trigger. If he got on the ground and face down with his hands out, he would have had better chance. You NEVER turn around to look at the officers chasing you, especially after you've already shot at them. The officers have a right to go back home their families as well. Yes, the "don't flee, just comply" defense I've seen floated around social media all day today. That's worked really well in the past. Don't worry, they get to go home on paid administrative leave and police union protection for the lynching of yet another Black individual. It'll get swept under the rug as Akron PD controls the narrative with their press conferences. Same song, same dance. Traffic violation? 60 rounds into your body and then you get handcuffed after you're already dead. Unarmed? Oops, our bad. We get to plead ignorance and hide behind the badge with the wide latitude given for officer safety. Lynching? Don't water down the meaning of this action. That's irresponsible. Of course, you conveniently gloss over the other factors of this tragic situation, such as, he shot at the police officers, he fled the scene, and turned towards them, and the fact that they tried to take him first, etc....
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 13:32:50 GMT -8
Yes, the "don't flee, just comply" defense I've seen floated around social media all day today. That's worked really well in the past. Don't worry, they get to go home on paid administrative leave and police union protection for the lynching of yet another Black individual. It'll get swept under the rug as Akron PD controls the narrative with their press conferences. Same song, same dance. Traffic violation? 60 rounds into your body and then you get handcuffed after you're already dead. Unarmed? Oops, our bad. We get to plead ignorance and hide behind the badge with the wide latitude given for officer safety. Lynching? Don't water down the meaning of this action. That's irresponsible. Of course, you conveniently gloss over the other factors of this tragic situation, such as, he shot at the police officers, he fled the scene, and turned towards them, and the fact that they tried to take him first, etc.... I'm not watering down anything. The problem is your understanding of the word, not my definition of it. "An extrajudicial killing of a group of people." That's exactly what took place. A group of predominantly White officers killed a Black man by shooting him upwards of 60 times and handcuffing his dead body. I'm not glossing over anything, either. You're making gross (as usual) assumptions and excuses for cruel and unusual behavior while simultaneously denying the validity of the difference in how different races are treated. You're assuming he turned around, just like you assume he fired his weapon, just like you assume he had a gun on him, just like you assume everything else. Let me be CLEAR: Absolutely NOTHING, repeat NOTHING in the above situation is justification for shooting anyone SIXTY...times. You're gullible, naive and ignorant. A terrible combination to be in a society where things are never black and white...unless it's Black versus White? And sure, this shooting will probably end up being justified by an independent investigation. Been there, done that. What about the next one? Or the hundreds prior? Amadou Diallo. Michael Brown. Eric Garner. Daunte Wright. Oscar Grant. Philando Castille. George Floyd. Andre Hill. Manuel Ellis. Elijah McClain. Breonna Taylor. Stephon Clark. Botham Jean. Terence Crutcher. Alfred Olango. Tony Robinson. Anthony Hill. Eric Harris. Walter Scott. Freddie Gray. William Chapman. Jonathan Sanders. Jamar Clark. You may be able to whitewash a couple, but you can't erase them all.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 14:45:46 GMT -8
Lynching? Don't water down the meaning of this action. That's irresponsible. Of course, you conveniently gloss over the other factors of this tragic situation, such as, he shot at the police officers, he fled the scene, and turned towards them, and the fact that they tried to take him first, etc.... I'm not watering down anything. The problem is your understanding of the word, not my definition of it. "An extrajudicial killing of a group of people." That's exactly what took place. A group of predominantly White officers killed a Black man by shooting him upwards of 60 times and handcuffing his dead body. I'm not glossing over anything, either. You're making gross (as usual) assumptions and excuses for cruel and unusual behavior while simultaneously denying the validity of the difference in how different races are treated. You're assuming he turned around, just like you assume he fired his weapon, just like you assume he had a gun on him, just like you assume everything else. Let me be CLEAR: Absolutely NOTHING, repeat NOTHING in the above situation is justification for shooting anyone SIXTY...times. You're gullible, naive and ignorant. A terrible combination to be in a society where things are never black and white...unless it's Black versus White? And sure, this shooting will probably end up being justified by an independent investigation. Been there, done that. What about the next one? Or the hundreds prior? Amadou Diallo. Michael Brown. Eric Garner. Daunte Wright. Oscar Grant. Philando Castille. George Floyd. Andre Hill. Manuel Ellis. Elijah McClain. Breonna Taylor. Stephon Clark. Botham Jean. Terence Crutcher. Alfred Olango. Tony Robinson. Anthony Hill. Eric Harris. Walter Scott. Freddie Gray. William Chapman. Jonathan Sanders. Jamar Clark. You may be able to whitewash a couple, but you can't erase them all. Yet, you assume he didn't shoot at them, turn around and face them, or even have a gun which they found on his front seat. Ok. Did they NEED to shoot him 60 times and handcuff him IF they knew he was dead, if both of those are true? No. But, what are police officers trained to do in that situation? We'll see. Also, you'd be on here screaming at the top of your lungs if there were just one police officer shooting him. So, there's that.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 15:35:45 GMT -8
I'm not watering down anything. The problem is your understanding of the word, not my definition of it. "An extrajudicial killing of a group of people." That's exactly what took place. A group of predominantly White officers killed a Black man by shooting him upwards of 60 times and handcuffing his dead body. I'm not glossing over anything, either. You're making gross (as usual) assumptions and excuses for cruel and unusual behavior while simultaneously denying the validity of the difference in how different races are treated. You're assuming he turned around, just like you assume he fired his weapon, just like you assume he had a gun on him, just like you assume everything else. Let me be CLEAR: Absolutely NOTHING, repeat NOTHING in the above situation is justification for shooting anyone SIXTY...times. You're gullible, naive and ignorant. A terrible combination to be in a society where things are never black and white...unless it's Black versus White? And sure, this shooting will probably end up being justified by an independent investigation. Been there, done that. What about the next one? Or the hundreds prior? Amadou Diallo. Michael Brown. Eric Garner. Daunte Wright. Oscar Grant. Philando Castille. George Floyd. Andre Hill. Manuel Ellis. Elijah McClain. Breonna Taylor. Stephon Clark. Botham Jean. Terence Crutcher. Alfred Olango. Tony Robinson. Anthony Hill. Eric Harris. Walter Scott. Freddie Gray. William Chapman. Jonathan Sanders. Jamar Clark. You may be able to whitewash a couple, but you can't erase them all. Yet, you assume he didn't shoot at them, turn around and face them, or even have a gun which they found on his front seat. Ok. Did they NEED to shoot him 60 times and handcuff him IF they knew he was dead, if both of those are true? No. But, what are police officers trained to do in that situation? We'll see. Also, you'd be on here screaming at the top of your lungs if there were just one police officer shooting him. So, there's that. Another nonsensical argument where you just repeat things back that I create. First, I assume nothing. Secondly, again, for the sake of redundancy, I don't care if he shot at them first. Absolutely nothing justifies what took place on that video. Nothing. Having a gun in your car? Legal in Ohio since June 13th. Not a crime. Again, you can make vindictive (and really not so subtly racist) justifications for what happened. I will not. I understand right and wrong, I understand that justice is a wishful idea in this country. I understand that color plays a role in how people are treated. What are police officers trained to do in that situation? NOT THAT, surely. That should be common sense? But hey, keep swallowing what Akron PD is telling you. Whether it was eight cops or one doesn't change the actual callousness of the crime. Murder is murder. Lynching is lynching.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 15:41:32 GMT -8
Yet, you assume he didn't shoot at them, turn around and face them, or even have a gun which they found on his front seat. Ok. Did they NEED to shoot him 60 times and handcuff him IF they knew he was dead, if both of those are true? No. But, what are police officers trained to do in that situation? We'll see. Also, you'd be on here screaming at the top of your lungs if there were just one police officer shooting him. So, there's that. Another nonsensical argument where you just repeat things back that I create. First, I assume nothing. Secondly, again, for the sake of redundancy, I don't care if he shot at them first. Absolutely nothing justifies what took place on that video. Nothing. Having a gun in your car? Legal in Ohio since June 13th. Not a crime. Again, you can make vindictive (and really not so subtly racist) justifications for what happened. I will not. I understand right and wrong, I understand that justice is a wishful idea in this country. I understand that color plays a role in how people are treated. What are police officers trained to do in that situation? NOT THAT, surely. That should be common sense? But hey, keep swallowing what Akron PD is telling you. Whether it was eight cops or one doesn't change the actual callousness of the crime. Murder is murder. Lynching is lynching. So, if they were shot at first, which means he has a gun, the police officers should not assume that he has the gun on him, and when he turns to face them, look him up and down FIRST, before taking any action and risk getting shot at and killed? How asinine. By the way everything/everybody's racist to you if they don't adhere to your opinions. That's a horrible trait you have, but I'm sure you don't care.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 15:44:01 GMT -8
Yet, you assume he didn't shoot at them, turn around and face them, or even have a gun which they found on his front seat. Ok. Did they NEED to shoot him 60 times and handcuff him IF they knew he was dead, if both of those are true? No. But, what are police officers trained to do in that situation? We'll see. Also, you'd be on here screaming at the top of your lungs if there were just one police officer shooting him. So, there's that. Another nonsensical argument where you just repeat things back that I create. First, I assume nothing. Secondly, again, for the sake of redundancy, I don't care if he shot at them first. Absolutely nothing justifies what took place on that video. Nothing. Having a gun in your car? Legal in Ohio since June 13th. Not a crime. Again, you can make vindictive (and really not so subtly racist) justifications for what happened. I will not. I understand right and wrong, I understand that justice is a wishful idea in this country. I understand that color plays a role in how people are treated. What are police officers trained to do in that situation? NOT THAT, surely. That should be common sense? But hey, keep swallowing what Akron PD is telling you. Whether it was eight cops or one doesn't change the actual callousness of the crime. Murder is murder. Lynching is lynching. If they were all black cops in this situation, would you still be ranting and raving the way you are? I know the answer, but go ahead and enlighten me with your answer, or your excuse of why that's a bad question.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 3, 2022 15:56:36 GMT -8
Another nonsensical argument where you just repeat things back that I create. First, I assume nothing. Secondly, again, for the sake of redundancy, I don't care if he shot at them first. Absolutely nothing justifies what took place on that video. Nothing. Having a gun in your car? Legal in Ohio since June 13th. Not a crime. Again, you can make vindictive (and really not so subtly racist) justifications for what happened. I will not. I understand right and wrong, I understand that justice is a wishful idea in this country. I understand that color plays a role in how people are treated. What are police officers trained to do in that situation? NOT THAT, surely. That should be common sense? But hey, keep swallowing what Akron PD is telling you. Whether it was eight cops or one doesn't change the actual callousness of the crime. Murder is murder. Lynching is lynching. So, if they were shot at first, which means he has a gun, the police officers should not assume that he has the gun on him, and when he turns to face them, look him up and down FIRST, before taking any action and risk getting shot at and killed? How asinine. By the way everything/everybody's racist to you if they don't adhere to your opinions. That's a horrible trait you have, but I'm sure you don't care. A) You have no proof he turned towards them. Not shown clearly on video at all. You can make up random hypotheticals all day, if you choose, to try and change the story. B) They fired countless shots into his body AFTER HE WAS DEAD. Then, they handcuffed his corpse. Did they try and render aid like they are legally obligated to? Makes you wonder. C) No, not everything. Only people who refuse to comment with integrity on the senseless acts of violence against people of color, who then make things worse by providing excuses for the police (who, if you don't want to take a risk, I don't know...Don't be a COP?) when they do things such as this. And you're right, I really don't care because you're incapable of critical analysis or debate. With you, it's "Oh gee, what a tragedy, buuuuut he should have complied." What it SHOULD be? "Wow, this is awful. Sixty shots? Is that really necessary? For a traffic violation? Another senseless statistic in a racially divided system."
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 3, 2022 16:11:22 GMT -8
So, if they were shot at first, which means he has a gun, the police officers should not assume that he has the gun on him, and when he turns to face them, look him up and down FIRST, before taking any action and risk getting shot at and killed? How asinine. By the way everything/everybody's racist to you if they don't adhere to your opinions. That's a horrible trait you have, but I'm sure you don't care. A) You have no proof he turned towards them. Not shown clearly on video at all. You can make up random hypotheticals all day, if you choose, to try and change the story. B) They fired countless shots into his body AFTER HE WAS DEAD. Then, they handcuffed his corpse. Did they try and render aid like they are legally obligated to? Makes you wonder. C) No, not everything. Only people who refuse to comment with integrity on the senseless acts of violence against people of color, who then make things worse by providing excuses for the police (who, if you don't want to take a risk, I don't know...Don't be a COP?) when they do things such as this. And you're right, I really don't care because you're incapable of critical analysis or debate. I guess you didn't see the photos of it. If he shot at the officers first, of course they're going to assume he still has a gun. You can hide behind your response of, "It's a hypothetical" but let's say it's been proven that he did shoot at them first? Also, like I've always said, there's good and bad cops of every color, just like in every occupation of life. But, unlike you, I don't run to the race card, and assume it's a racist act each and every time a person of color is involved in a police officer incident. You come off as a radical, but I'm sure you're proud of that. Whatever
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