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Post by mayham81 on Apr 30, 2021 9:21:51 GMT -8
Developing an actual vaccine rollout plan that has gone pretty great all things considered after discovering there was no plan upon entering office. Oh and passing legislation that directly helps poor kids not go hungry, that's pretty great. President Trump ordered millions of doses well before the rollout. These pharmaceutical companies didn’t just twitch their noses and millions of doses suddenly magically appeared. The Biden Administration had much of the distribution framework already established, there is no way hundreds of millions of doses gets in the arms of Americans without this framework. Trump set the Biden people up for success period. Any somewhat competent president would have invested largely into vaccines last year and into securing them and I recall they could have secured more and didn't. If trump had taken the pandemic seriously, showed some empathy and set good examples he probably gets reelected easily which is scary to admit but true.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 30, 2021 11:24:03 GMT -8
President Trump ordered millions of doses well before the rollout. These pharmaceutical companies didn’t just twitch their noses and millions of doses suddenly magically appeared. The Biden Administration had much of the distribution framework already established, there is no way hundreds of millions of doses gets in the arms of Americans without this framework. Trump set the Biden people up for success period. Any somewhat competent president would have invested largely into vaccines last year and into securing them and I recall they could have secured more and didn't. If trump had taken the pandemic seriously, showed some empathy and set good examples he probably gets reelected easily which is scary to admit but true. Sadly, you are correct. I still can't beleive how many Americans were buying what the snake oil salesman was selling. Luckily for America, he had really glaring weaknesses. Some of his antics were so stupid, it seemed like he was trying to crash n burn. Imagine if he had the discipline of Putin?? I try not to.....
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Post by ptsdthor on May 1, 2021 8:58:16 GMT -8
Speaking of a snake oil salesman and adding the gullible fools that believe him, please explain the benefits to the US with the current fiasco at the southern border (other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? Importing Poverty, Covid infections, unaccompanied minors, aiding and abeting human trafficking, drug trafficking, rape and molestation of migrants, countless unknown "got aways", a financial windfall for the cartels, the drain on social services (when we can't effectively deal with existing needs for our homeless), etc, etc. Almost every other industrialized nation has an orderly immigration system yet we allow a free for all because it may eventually lead to unopposed Democrat power. Give me a reasonable argument to the contrary. And don't tell me that Democrats "care for humanity" as their elite politicians live in walled properties with dedicated police protection while sending their kids to private schools. news.yahoo.com/90-migrants-found-crammed-home-131303251.html
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Post by uwphoto on May 2, 2021 5:19:17 GMT -8
Speaking of a snake oil salesman and adding the gullible fools that believe him, please explain the benefits to the US with the current fiasco at the southern border (other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? Importing Poverty, Covid infections, unaccompanied minors, aiding and abeting human trafficking, drug trafficking, rape and molestation of migrants, countless unknown "got aways", a financial windfall for the cartels, the drain on social services (when we can't effectively deal with existing needs for our homeless), etc, etc. Almost every other industrialized nation has an orderly immigration system yet we allow a free for all because it may eventually lead to unopposed Democrat power. Give me a reasonable argument to the contrary. And don't tell me that Democrats "care for humanity" as their elite politicians live in walled properties with dedicated police protection while sending their kids to private schools. news.yahoo.com/90-migrants-found-crammed-home-131303251.html"aiding and abeting human trafficking" like Matt Gaetz? "Covid infections" like the 50% brain dead? There's room on the Gaetz / Greene wacko tour you know.
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Post by ptsdthor on May 3, 2021 15:03:15 GMT -8
Speaking of a snake oil salesman and adding the gullible fools that believe him, please explain the benefits to the US with the current fiasco at the southern border (other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? Importing Poverty, Covid infections, unaccompanied minors, aiding and abeting human trafficking, drug trafficking, rape and molestation of migrants, countless unknown "got aways", a financial windfall for the cartels, the drain on social services (when we can't effectively deal with existing needs for our homeless), etc, etc. Almost every other industrialized nation has an orderly immigration system yet we allow a free for all because it may eventually lead to unopposed Democrat power. Give me a reasonable argument to the contrary. And don't tell me that Democrats "care for humanity" as their elite politicians live in walled properties with dedicated police protection while sending their kids to private schools. news.yahoo.com/90-migrants-found-crammed-home-131303251.html"aiding and abeting human trafficking" like Matt Gaetz? "Covid infections" like the 50% brain dead? There's room on the Gaetz / Greene wacko tour you know. So Gaetz may be just getting into the ballpark of the creep President Clinton and Greene may be as "smart" at the Squad members or Maxine, but what does that have to do with the asinine policy of the Biden Administration regarding the train wreck on the Southern Border?
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Post by mayham81 on May 9, 2021 20:56:58 GMT -8
(other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? No arguing with someone that believes this nonsense. If you believe that you likely believe many false things a simple google search would clear up.
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Post by uwphoto on May 12, 2021 7:26:29 GMT -8
(other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? No arguing with someone that believes this nonsense. If you believe that you likely believe many false things a simple google search would clear up. Stockholm Syndrome or the chains of a cult... SAD.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 10:51:16 GMT -8
Speaking of a snake oil salesman and adding the gullible fools that believe him, please explain the benefits to the US with the current fiasco at the southern border (other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? Importing Poverty, Covid infections, unaccompanied minors, aiding and abeting human trafficking, drug trafficking, rape and molestation of migrants, countless unknown "got aways", a financial windfall for the cartels, the drain on social services (when we can't effectively deal with existing needs for our homeless), etc, etc. Almost every other industrialized nation has an orderly immigration system yet we allow a free for all because it may eventually lead to unopposed Democrat power. Give me a reasonable argument to the contrary. And don't tell me that Democrats "care for humanity" as their elite politicians live in walled properties with dedicated police protection while sending their kids to private schools. news.yahoo.com/90-migrants-found-crammed-home-131303251.htmlThe orange imbecile needs some more of your money to "Stop the Steal!" Don't let him down!!
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Post by ptsdthor on May 12, 2021 15:27:20 GMT -8
(other than the stuffing the ballot box with undocumented Democrats)? No arguing with someone that believes this nonsense. If you believe that you likely believe many false things a simple google search would clear up. Tell me, how long have you lived in California? www.immigrationreform.com/2021/04/15/senate-democrats-forget-rules-amnesty-immigrationreform-com/So we have a unmitigated disaster at the Southern Border with a flood of new illegal aliens all while Democrats are planning for a general Amnesty. Oh yeah, I am way off
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Post by mayham81 on May 12, 2021 20:24:42 GMT -8
Yes, I’ve heard all illegals will be granted citizenship right after the bad democrats take everyone’s guns away. Enjoy living in the constant fear of things that aren’t actually happening and being obsessed with the same 5 issues every time a democrat is in office while ignoring the many issues that could help everyday Americans.
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Post by ptsdthor on May 13, 2021 5:22:14 GMT -8
Yes, I’ve heard all illegals will be granted citizenship right after the bad democrats take everyone’s guns away. Enjoy living in the constant fear of things that aren’t actually happening and being obsessed with the same 5 issues every time a democrat is in office while ignoring the many issues that could help everyday Americans. Exactly! So what problem for everyday Americans is being solved with an open southern border (other than securing long term Democrat power)?
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Post by mayham81 on May 13, 2021 7:16:19 GMT -8
I'm a bit more concerned with one of the two political parties going full propaganda authoritarian at the moment pushing the big lie and supporting the guy that lost them the house, senate and presidency while setting up the ability in several states to not accept election results they don't like. Are you for freedom and democracy?
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 13, 2021 9:21:18 GMT -8
I am beside myself. This thread was started for the purpose of recognizing the administration's laudable actions. Instead, it has morphed into another parade of "orange man bad" tirades.
Okay, I will now add, in the spirit of the thread, another positive post. This refers to the VP's answer to the question "Is this a racist country?" She stated that the U.S.A. is not a racist country. I applaud that answer. This country has plenty of faults (as does every nation), but nation-wide racial prejudice is not one of them.
AzWm
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 13, 2021 9:51:51 GMT -8
I'm a bit more concerned with one of the two political parties going full propaganda authoritarian at the moment pushing the big lie and supporting the guy that lost them the house, senate and presidency while setting up the ability in several states to not accept election results they don't like. Are you for freedom and democracy? Well, the GOP came close to winning the House and at least split in the Senate, which is much better than many parties have done when not winning the Presidency. We shall see what happens in the next year and a half. AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2021 10:55:14 GMT -8
I'm a bit more concerned with one of the two political parties going full propaganda authoritarian at the moment pushing the big lie and supporting the guy that lost them the house, senate and presidency while setting up the ability in several states to not accept election results they don't like. Are you for freedom and democracy? Well, the GOP came close to winning the House and at least split in the Senate, which is much better than many parties have done when not winning the Presidency. We shall see what happens in the next year and a half. AzWm That doesn't even remotely address the content of the post.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2021 10:59:04 GMT -8
I am beside myself. This thread was started for the purpose of recognizing the administration's laudable actions. Instead, it has morphed into another parade of "orange man bad" tirades. Okay, I will now add, in the spirit of the thread, another positive post. This refers to the VP's answer to the question "Is this a racist country?" She stated that the U.S.A. is not a racist country. I applaud that answer. This country has plenty of faults (as does every nation), but nation-wide racial prejudice is not one of them. AzWm You continue to allow the same poster to peddle conspiracy theories and thinly-veiled racism over and over..and you expect everything to just stay on the tracks? This isn't a parade of "orange man bad" - It's one poster continually bringing up disingenuous red herrings while propagating myths and the rest of us on Earth are using logic and substance to rebut said red herrings. Since the GOP (Lindsey Gfaham, for instance) literally said the GOP cannot move forward without Trump, that's a pretty important narrative to honor, considering the trainwreck of the last four years and the extreme danger that Trump put this country in (repeatedly) during his administration.
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Post by mayham81 on May 13, 2021 12:02:17 GMT -8
Perhaps the solution is a new sub-forum for "Guns, Illegals, Cancel Culture, the Deficit" so people can rail on those topics for the rest of time while some of us concentrate on bettering society.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2021 13:06:47 GMT -8
I am beside myself. This thread was started for the purpose of recognizing the administration's laudable actions. Instead, it has morphed into another parade of "orange man bad" tirades. Okay, I will now add, in the spirit of the thread, another positive post. This refers to the VP's answer to the question "Is this a racist country?" She stated that the U.S.A. is not a racist country. I applaud that answer. This country has plenty of faults (as does every nation), but nation-wide racial prejudice is not one of them. AzWm Every conversation goes this direction in situations like this. No shock.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2021 13:20:50 GMT -8
I am beside myself. This thread was started for the purpose of recognizing the administration's laudable actions. Instead, it has morphed into another parade of "orange man bad" tirades. Okay, I will now add, in the spirit of the thread, another positive post. This refers to the VP's answer to the question "Is this a racist country?" She stated that the U.S.A. is not a racist country. I applaud that answer. This country has plenty of faults (as does every nation), but nation-wide racial prejudice is not one of them. AzWm Every conversation goes this direction in situations like this. No shock. Because discourse gets lost when people rail on "illegals" and spread wild conspiracy theories. Some of us don't want to tolerate garbage like that.
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 13, 2021 15:18:47 GMT -8
Perhaps the solution is a new sub-forum for "Guns, Illegals, Cancel Culture, the Deficit" so people can rail on those topics for the rest of time while some of us concentrate on bettering society. How about AztecMesa members pretty much responding to the subject of each thread? Also, each of the topics you list deserve thoughtful discussions. AzWm
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