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Post by Gundo on May 12, 2021 18:31:48 GMT -8
This ENDS the Ty Ty speculation.
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Post by Frantic on May 12, 2021 18:43:59 GMT -8
This ENDS the Ty Ty speculation. He committed to the most underachieving college program over the past 12 years.
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Post by docmm on May 12, 2021 19:36:16 GMT -8
This ENDS the Ty Ty speculation. He committed to the most underachieving college program over the past 12 years. True, but they also get more players into the NBA than any other school and that’s what the 5-star kids want!
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Post by Frantic on May 12, 2021 20:45:40 GMT -8
He committed to the most underachieving college program over the past 12 years. True, but they also get more players into the NBA than any other school and that’s what the 5-star kids want! Exactly. Kentucky kids aren't concerned about the college game. Kentucky is merely a rest stop before the NBA. If you're junior at Kentucky then you're a roll player.
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Post by jdaztec on May 12, 2021 23:16:47 GMT -8
Thats The College Spirit. Wonder how many Kentucky players finish with a degree ?
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Post by dunksalot on May 13, 2021 7:17:15 GMT -8
Thats The College Spirit. Wonder how many Kentucky players finish with a degree ? I wonder how fast Kentucky players make their first million?
Remember, these are kids who often come from rough environments and the degree can always come later if it's that important.
Good for Tyty. I hope we knock him out of the tourney before he goes end of the 1st round next season.
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Post by fisher1fan on May 13, 2021 12:54:45 GMT -8
Thats The College Spirit. Wonder how many Kentucky players finish with a degree ? The point of college is to help with your specific career path. Good for anyone who can be highly desired professionally prior to finishing the courses, many are still not so, even after a degree.
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Post by sdcoug on May 13, 2021 15:01:14 GMT -8
Thats The College Spirit. Wonder how many Kentucky players finish with a degree ? I wonder how fast Kentucky players make their first million?
Remember, these are kids who often come from rough environments and the degree can always come later if it's that important.
Good for Tyty. I hope we knock him out of the tourney before he goes end of the 1st round next season.
Kentucky definitely can be a good path to the NBA, but it can also be a detriment as Cal tends to recruit over some guys who go there intending to see immediate PT (given high roster turnover). Even now, Kentucky is going after Remy Martin which could very easily push Tyty to come off the bench.
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Post by standiego on May 13, 2021 16:51:45 GMT -8
As we have seen ( from NBA drafts)even being a reserve on the good Kentucky teams can be more advantageous for some recruits then being a starter on another team
Each recruit has their own thoughts on the best way to get to the NBA- If that is their main thought for college or their life after college - of course not all of the players make it to the NBA . But there are now the leagues in other countries so many players find opportunities to make money through basketball or
Would guess that many of the recruits who do choose Kentucky or some of the other P6 schools- know or should know by now that the coach is going to keep recruiting as hard as he can to get the best players so he can Win - that is his only goal -
Now with the No sit transfer rule a guy can go to Kentucky .... and if he is not pleased with his PT he moves on if he chooses
Other recruits want PT - play as much and as early as they can so select schools that have PT
Then there are the multitude that look for the best fit for them
College basketball is a big business for schools and the players - so you hope the players make the best decision for their lives .
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Post by jdaztec on May 13, 2021 18:00:55 GMT -8
Everyones different but I personally enjoy College sports more than pros. I like the fact that not all team mates are millionaires and that our players really do go to class at COLLEGE. I think if we ever became a BB factory like Kentucky and the vast majority of the players are one and done with their only real goal The NBA I would probably lose my enthusiasm. I really love our program good enough to be very competitive and even possibly make a final four or even win it all one of these years but also know that most of these kids are real students going to school and getting degrees.
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Post by ignoranus on May 13, 2021 18:21:01 GMT -8
Do some of the Kentucky players make their first million before they leave school?
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Post by aztecmusician on May 13, 2021 22:48:47 GMT -8
That’s fine. Kentucky and Duce can have their all stars.
I’ll take a team of the “right” players, who stick around for 3-5 years, who play in a system designed to take down all star groups AND who play with a chip on their shoulder AND are all in for A TEAM EFFORT!!
That approach is the future of College Basketball, look for a changing of the guard at the top. The new transfer rules completely favor this approach, the 4-5 star players Coach Dutcher gets in as transfers are already known proven commodities, there is no guesswork on how hard the freshman is going to work etc.
Musselman, Cronin and Alford seem to share this philosophy.
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Post by Gundo on May 14, 2021 1:21:46 GMT -8
I can say with some confidence these (5) players are top of the 2021 High School Class: - Ty Washington 6'4" PG - Kaleb Washington 6'8" SF/PF - Glenn Taylor, Jr. 6'6" SF/SG - Demarshay Johnson 6'10" PF/C - Atiki Ally Atiki 6'11" C8 months later - Ty Ty Washington 6'4" PG = Kentucky - Kaleb Washington 6'8" SF/PF = Dayton - Glenn Taylor, Jr. 6'6" SF/SG = Oregon State- Demarshay Johnson 6'10" PF/C = AZTECS - Atiki Ally Atiki 6'11" C = BYU
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Post by sdsuball on May 14, 2021 10:40:24 GMT -8
That’s fine. Kentucky and Duce can have their all stars. I’ll take a team of the “right” players, who stick around for 3-5 years, who play in a system designed to take down all star groups AND who play with a chip on their shoulder AND are all in for A TEAM EFFORT!! That approach is the future of College Basketball, look for a changing of the guard at the top. The new transfer rules completely favor this approach, the 4-5 star players Coach Dutcher gets in as transfers are already known proven commodities, there is no guesswork on how hard the freshman is going to work etc. Musselman, Cronin and Alford seem to share this philosophy. Yes, a team made up of transfers with 1-2 freshmen each year that are patient enough to earn their opportunities over time.
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Post by sdcoug on May 14, 2021 12:06:09 GMT -8
That’s fine. Kentucky and Duce can have their all stars. I’ll take a team of the “right” players, who stick around for 3-5 years, who play in a system designed to take down all star groups AND who play with a chip on their shoulder AND are all in for A TEAM EFFORT!! That approach is the future of College Basketball, look for a changing of the guard at the top. The new transfer rules completely favor this approach, the 4-5 star players Coach Dutcher gets in as transfers are already known proven commodities, there is no guesswork on how hard the freshman is going to work etc. Musselman, Cronin and Alford seem to share this philosophy. Musselman & Alford, yes, but wouldn't say that about Cronin. They only had 1 transfer on their roster last year, and only added 1 more this year. They're primarily based on HS recruiting & look to be continuing down that path. UCLA can get the elite recruits, whereas Arkansas, UNR & SDSU seek out the best they can get via HS, then focus on "proven" talent via the portal to fill in all empty spots. Definitely could be the future, but I think it's more so this year (& last) than most, especially if the NCAA truly sticks to their guns when it comes to requiring 2-time transfers to sit. With so much movement this year there's bound to be a lot less next year.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on May 14, 2021 13:42:38 GMT -8
Thats The College Spirit. Wonder how many Kentucky players finish with a degree ? Yeah, how does UK not fall below the APR threshold if most of their players leave after 1 year. Must have some guys at the end of the bench that stay 4 years and get straight A's
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Post by docmm on May 14, 2021 15:49:57 GMT -8
As I understand it, the APR is based on how many semesters a student is in school and measure that against how many semesters they are eligible while they’re in school. I don’t believe that a school gets penalized for anybody leaving early.
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Post by fisherville on May 14, 2021 17:14:03 GMT -8
Dutcher absolutely wants these guys, and “one and dones” to suggest otherwise is silly.
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Post by standiego on May 15, 2021 9:54:58 GMT -8
Zeigler was on the radio Friday . His thoughts . Bradley could easily be rated the best newcomer in the MW this year . Aztec coaches noted they needed size down low and even at the guard spot so they were selective in who they added . He also added that the forward they have red shirting this year from TCU will be a very good addition for the following season and be one of their best players . He feels the Wing/ forward transfer that will have 4 years still to play w . Zeigler also mentioned that adding quality Bigs is not easy so is always an important thing to do when you can get them
He feels Reno , CSU and BSU have a lot of talent and their coaches coming back so the players know their system and will be even better with the summer to work on their continued development .
Lobos and UNLV have added a lot of quality New talent in transfers But as we have seen you never know how long or If they will be able to work as a unit . New Coaches but they will have the summer to work with their players .
Zeigler felt that that not having the summer hurt players not coming from a strong HS background . His opinion Lamont had a very good HS coach so was able to make the transition easier then KD and even Keshad - who in his opinion his HS did not play that many quality opponents or not sure how good his HS coach was . So not having the summer hurt those players also Che being injured his senior season and then little instruction this past summer . The Aztec defense is Not an easy one to master and the offense is one that works best when the guys are sharing and moving the ball . He felt Keshad did improve his defense but was not confident about the best way to use his offensive skills .
Zeigler sees KD having one of the best pure shooting abilities Aztecs have had . He ranks very high on offensive shooting but does he also know when to take his shot or when to make the pass so he is playing solid team basketball. Also work on his defense- if he does he will back up Matt B at the 2 or allow Matt to slide to the 3 when Aztecs want to play more smaller size team .
Zeigler is not sure if the Aztecs are done adding players - But he does feel the Aztec coaches are selective in who they choose to add . Aztecs enjoy having experienced team but prefer to add pieces as needed rather then do a complete reload . So in some instances may want a player that may have to red shirt or have more then one season to play.
Full interview on 97.3 FM
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Post by aztecmusician on May 16, 2021 11:18:25 GMT -8
Dutcher absolutely wants these guys, and “one and dones” to suggest otherwise is silly. True. But if the top players don’t sign on, the current transfer rules at least give non traditional powers like SDSU the ability to be competitive with 3-4 star recruits.
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