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Post by sdcoug on May 5, 2021 8:56:46 GMT -8
Yes but Gonzaga BB gets the lion's share of their athletic funds. I have no info if their BB players get stipends and training table meals. Anyone know?? Did a Google search as you had me curious. They get $500/mo stipend.
Also, from a 2020 article..."The Zags ranked 27th in the entire country in basketball expenditures, outpacing every Pac 12 team except UCLA, along with other “powers” like Illinois, Arkansas, Florida, and Maryland. They’re in a completely different stratosphere than their WCC foes."
And UCLA just started chartering some flights a couple years ago, something Gonzaga's been doing for over a decade. Your last statement is probably the most crucial. We spend at a high level compared to our peers, BUT the gap between us & most of our peers is miniscule compared to the gap between Gonzaga & their peers. That spending dominance has pretty much guaranteed them success in conference, which turns into NCAA bids, which turns into the "big fish/small pond" mentality that attracts several athletes. Unlike most good programs who can only say "come here & there's a good chance you'll play in the NCAAT" they can say "you WILL play in the NCAAT every year you're here". That's huge.
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Post by standiego on May 5, 2021 11:08:31 GMT -8
As mentioned Zags have a very strong Alum and area support / money
Great flow of money to support their team and financial needs to assist their growth
Believe they received some additional benefits from WCC and the travel schedule to games is much easier in the WCC then in the MW
Basketball is king - not having to share with Football
How many years has it taken for the Zags to be able to get top 10 HS recruits and some of the better transfers- ? It takers a while for many Non P6 schools to get to where the Zags are now - they also have had numerous players go on to the NBA - plus have connections abroad
All important parts of the puzzle
Very solid structure
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Post by dunksalot on May 5, 2021 16:01:47 GMT -8
As mentioned Zags have a very strong Alum and area support / money Great flow of money to support their team and financial needs to assist their growth Believe they received some additional benefits from WCC and the travel schedule to games is much easier in the WCC then in the MW Basketball is king - not having to share with Football How many years has it taken for the Zags to be able to get top 10 HS recruits and some of the better transfers- ? It takers a while for many Non P6 schools to get to where the Zags are now - they also have had numerous players go on to the NBA - plus have connections abroad All important parts of the puzzle Very solid structure Few took over in 99-00 and proceeded to make every NCAA tourney since. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/gonzaga/I look back at Calipari taking over UMASS and they went from obscurity to championship contender overnight. Getting that coach is vital. Dutcher is off on the right foot and I'm very pleased - exceeded expectations. Looking at our transfers I'd say we continue to move up.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on May 5, 2021 18:11:22 GMT -8
As mentioned Zags have a very strong Alum and area support / money Great flow of money to support their team and financial needs to assist their growth Believe they received some additional benefits from WCC and the travel schedule to games is much easier in the WCC then in the MW Basketball is king - not having to share with Football How many years has it taken for the Zags to be able to get top 10 HS recruits and some of the better transfers- ? It takers a while for many Non P6 schools to get to where the Zags are now - they also have had numerous players go on to the NBA - plus have connections abroad All important parts of the puzzle Very solid structure Don't forget their Jesuit network of international "scouts". The Zags hear about prospects that never show up on normal radar.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 6, 2021 14:25:48 GMT -8
As mentioned Zags have a very strong Alum and area support / money Great flow of money to support their team and financial needs to assist their growth Believe they received some additional benefits from WCC and the travel schedule to games is much easier in the WCC then in the MW Basketball is king - not having to share with Football How many years has it taken for the Zags to be able to get top 10 HS recruits and some of the better transfers- ? It takers a while for many Non P6 schools to get to where the Zags are now - they also have had numerous players go on to the NBA - plus have connections abroad All important parts of the puzzle Very solid structure Few took over in 99-00 and proceeded to make every NCAA tourney since. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/gonzaga/I look back at Calipari taking over UMASS and they went from obscurity to championship contender overnight. Getting that coach is vital. Dutcher is off on the right foot and I'm very pleased - exceeded expectations. Looking at our transfers I'd say we continue to move up. The head coach is everything to a basketball program. SDSU is a perfect example. Before Coach Fisher, the sequence of Brandenburg to Fuller to Trenkle yielded zero results. Fisher comes in, changes the recruitment network and in a couple of years The Aztecs are winning 20+ games and playing in postseason tournaments. Brady Trenkle was actually a good basketball coach from and X’s and O’s perspective, but Steve Fisher was a nationally recognized coach who recruited (along with Dutcher) the likes of Chris Weber and Jalen Rose. That is what most blue chip recruits want to commit to...along with a new arena and practice facility. I think Coach Dutcher will continue to win and leave behind the awaken giant Fred Miller always dreamed of.
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Post by dunksalot on May 6, 2021 14:41:09 GMT -8
[/quote]The head coach is everything to a basketball program. SDSU is a perfect example. Before Coach Fisher, the sequence of Brandenburg to Fuller to Trenkle yielded zero results. Fisher comes in, changes the recruitment network and in a couple of years The Aztecs are winning 20+ games and playing in postseason tournaments. Brady Trenkle was actually a good basketball coach from an X’s and O’s perspective, but Steve Fisher was a nationally recognized coach who recruited (along with Dutcher) the likes of Chris Weber and Jalen Rose. That is what most blue chip recruits want to commit to...along with a new arena and practice facility.
I think Coach Dutcher will continue to win and leave behind the awaken giant Fred Miller always dreamed of.[/quote]
I'll take Brandenburg and Viejas Arena over Fisher and Petersen Gym.
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Post by sdcoug on May 6, 2021 16:31:18 GMT -8
That would be a terrific add IMO. Really played well against a damn good Richmond team in their tourney. Struggled against Top teams overall, but being a FR it's not too surprising. Seems like a Che clone but talent is talent. Will just reiterate that IMO this is a terrific add. Extremely efficient offensively as a role player, and played well vs. Richmond. Struggled vs. St Bonnie's but solid overall for a FR. Will be interesting to see him & Che battle it out on the wing, and/or if Diabate earns the starting gig over Baker with Keshad starting at the 3?
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Post by Frantic on May 6, 2021 17:00:46 GMT -8
I heard we are in the mix and potentially getting a 2/3 player from Duquesne. They wouldn’t say his name but said it was us and another school. I have no idea who but he is apparently a really good player. For what it’s worth and that might not be much. I just hadn’t heard that yet. Your sources are credible.
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Post by dunksalot on May 6, 2021 18:21:57 GMT -8
Interesting that we added 3 southpaws. I watched some Duquesne clips and Baker played the Shackel role. 42% 3FG is amazing for a freshman - and he hit 7 in one game.
Think on this...our team next season woulda coulda been:
Flynn Shackel Mitchell McDaniels Mensah
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Post by jp92grad on May 6, 2021 20:03:06 GMT -8
What about now going after Jordan Brown?
"roomer" has it he has to sit next year and then will have 2 years remaining and sdsu has a couple opening due to Super Seniors this coming year. Brown and D.Johnson could be a great practice combo team playing against the starters day in day out.
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Post by KickAztec on May 10, 2021 15:08:23 GMT -8
www.zagsblog.com/2021/04/30/junior-college-star-rivaldo-soares-names-final-6Soares broke down his top six:San Diego State: “Great school, and they always have pros. They want me to come in and be myself.”St John’s: “Really get up and down, they play fast. Coach [Steve] DeMeo was one of the first coaches to recruit me. I like their style of play.” Florida: “Big-time atmosphere. They get you better, and they always play the right way. They have a great staff.” Oregon: “Coach [Dana] Altman and Coach Mike [Mennenga] are good people, they talk a lot about development which is big for me. And Oregon continued to be in the tournament.” Oklahoma State: “Coach Mike [Boynton] and staff have done a great job, He is a really good coach. And looking to continue their run to more NCAA Tournaments.” DePaul: “Coach [Tony] Stubblefield is trying to bring DePaul back to the top. My teammate and friend just committed there; it’s a great opportunity.” His former teammate, Philmon Gebrewhit, committed to DePaul Thursday. Oregon JuCo Highlights: Can shoot, run and board - Final 6
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Post by KickAztec on May 10, 2021 15:10:52 GMT -8
Soares to Oregon
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Post by hoobs on May 10, 2021 15:41:02 GMT -8
What about now going after Jordan Brown? "roomer" has it he has to sit next year and then will have 2 years remaining and sdsu has a couple opening due to Super Seniors this coming year. Brown and D.Johnson could be a great practice combo team playing against the starters day in day out. I love this idea.
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Post by sdcoug on May 10, 2021 22:34:46 GMT -8
Doubt we go after him but Both Gach is back in the portal. Leaving Minnesota after 1 year. We really, REALLY wanted him before he chose Utah over us.
Would need to RS, then 2 years of eligibility remain.
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Post by Gundo on May 10, 2021 23:07:29 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on May 10, 2021 23:12:02 GMT -8
Doubt we go after him but Both Gach is back in the portal. Leaving Minnesota after 1 year. We really, REALLY wanted him before he chose Utah over us. Would need to RS, then 2 years of eligibility remain. Interesting player, one reason cited was he missed his family in the Sudan because of the Pandemic. In the SD area there are over 7,000 in the Southern Sudanese Community. Perhaps, that would help favor SDSU.
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Post by ignoranus on May 11, 2021 5:27:42 GMT -8
For more than one year Gach & Timmy Allen were Utah's best players, as freshmen and into their sophomore years. Probably worth a look.
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Post by fisher1fan on May 11, 2021 6:10:15 GMT -8
Doubt we go after him but Both Gach is back in the portal. Leaving Minnesota after 1 year. We really, REALLY wanted him before he chose Utah over us. Would need to RS, then 2 years of eligibility remain. why not go after him if he is someone we really like?
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 11, 2021 7:44:40 GMT -8
Doubt we go after him but Both Gach is back in the portal. Leaving Minnesota after 1 year. We really, REALLY wanted him before he chose Utah over us. Would need to RS, then 2 years of eligibility remain. why not go after him if he is someone we really like? His freshmen season was solid and showed potential. He got starter minutes as a sophomore, but took a small step backward, shooting less efficiently and not rebounding like they thought he would. At Minnesota he was even less efficient on offense and only starter some of the time. Coaches will have an informed opinion but I would be very leery.
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Post by sdcoug on May 11, 2021 8:01:21 GMT -8
Doubt we go after him but Both Gach is back in the portal. Leaving Minnesota after 1 year. We really, REALLY wanted him before he chose Utah over us. Would need to RS, then 2 years of eligibility remain. why not go after him if he is someone we really like? Baker, Evans, Butler and Dinwiddie would be 3rd year players coming into their own. I think the coaches are comfortable with that group so don't see Bach playing a position of need. Personally I think we're done, but you never know.
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