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Post by Den60 on Oct 6, 2019 10:45:34 GMT -8
Minnesota's is designed to be a double decker bowl in the future, but currently is a horseshoe. And there is no party decks, unless you count the open endzone as one. For how nice The Bank is, it is pretty minimalist. And like CSU, it is not steep. I was going to ask about that in this thread. One thing I really want for our stadium is a steep pitch for the seating, like Aztec Bowl was and Viejas is now. I hope that's NOT one thing we copy from Canvas stadium.. Have to wait to see the drawings but the draft EIR has the new stadium occupying 15.4 acres whereas the current stadium uses 15 so I am not anticipating the new one being much steeper than the current stadium, especially given that the front seats will be closer to the sidelines though raised up 4-5' so as the not be obstructed view seats. I wish I would have saved a copy of SC's plan to see how much acreage that stadium was to command since we know they claimed their design would be steep.
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Post by aztech on Oct 6, 2019 10:56:26 GMT -8
I was going to ask about that in this thread. One thing I really want for our stadium is a steep pitch for the seating, like Aztec Bowl was and Viejas is now. I hope that's NOT one thing we copy from Canvas stadium.. Have to wait to see the drawings but the draft EIR has the new stadium occupying 15.4 acres whereas the current stadium uses 15 so I am not anticipating the new one being much steeper than the current stadium, especially given that the front seats will be closer to the sidelines though raised up 4-5' so as the not be obstructed view seats. I wish I would have saved a copy of SC's EIR to see how much acreage that stadium was to command since we know they claimed their design would be steep. I think the thing we need to consider is this. If the sidelines are flatter than the Q, then it'll be a soccer stadium. If as steep, then it'll be a real football stadium.
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Post by Den60 on Oct 6, 2019 11:33:26 GMT -8
Have to wait to see the drawings but the draft EIR has the new stadium occupying 15.4 acres whereas the current stadium uses 15 so I am not anticipating the new one being much steeper than the current stadium, especially given that the front seats will be closer to the sidelines though raised up 4-5' so as the not be obstructed view seats. I wish I would have saved a copy of SC's EIR to see how much acreage that stadium was to command since we know they claimed their design would be steep. I think the thing we need to consider is this. If the sidelines are flatter than the Q, then it'll be a soccer stadium. If as steep, then it'll be a real football stadium. I'm not sure a steeper design really defines it as a football versus soccer stadium. SC's stadium was more compact and vertical than the SDSU plan. Both would have raised the front row seating 4-5' above the playing field which is more important for football than soccer. Looking at the schematics of SDSU stadium it doesn't look to be near as steep as Viejas but likely steeper than the current stadium. But the current designers are designing a stadium around a rectangular field whereas the designers of the the original stadium also had to design for use as a baseball stadium. I think our stadium will be fairly similar to CSU's stadium:
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Post by aztech on Oct 6, 2019 11:38:10 GMT -8
I think the thing we need to consider is this. If the sidelines are flatter than the Q, then it'll be a soccer stadium. If as steep, then it'll be a real football stadium. I'm not sure a steeper design really defines it as a football versus soccer stadium. SC's stadium was more compact and vertical than the SDSU plan. Both would have raised the front row seating 4-5' above the playing field which is more important for football than soccer. Looking at the schematics of SDSU stadium it doesn't look to be near as steep as Viejas but likely steeper than the current stadium. But the current designers are designing a stadium around a rectangular field whereas the designers of the the original stadium also had to design for use as a baseball stadium. I think our stadium will be fairly similar to CSU's stadium: How is their acoustics? I've never seen their stadium filled so I wouldn't know.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 6, 2019 11:42:01 GMT -8
I think the thing we need to consider is this. If the sidelines are flatter than the Q, then it'll be a soccer stadium. If as steep, then it'll be a real football stadium. I'm not sure a steeper design really defines it as a football versus soccer stadium. SC's stadium was more compact and vertical than the SDSU plan. Both would have raised the front row seating 4-5' above the playing field which is more important for football than soccer. Looking at the schematics of SDSU stadium it doesn't look to be near as steep as Viejas but likely steeper than the current stadium. But the current designers are designing a stadium around a rectangular field whereas the designers of the the original stadium also had to design for use as a baseball stadium. I think our stadium will be fairly similar to CSU's stadium: Well, hopefully our finished product will be steeper than the drawing. Utah State's looks steeper to me.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 6, 2019 11:43:58 GMT -8
Not sure that you really answered the question sdsu4life. You have simply make an observation that they are playing in a new stadium, and follow up about "pride" is so subjective as to have little meaning. The question was, "What has it done for the program"? A very good question. Are they now so burdened with debt that the program could collapse? Are there more people attending games? Is the team any better? Are they getting better recruits? These are questions that had positive and reassuring answers BEFORE the completion of the new stadium. Have those questions been revisited since? Answering two of your questions: Are there more people attending games? Attendance has dropped each year, with the announced attendance in 2017 of 32,061/game; last year they had 29,504/game; and so far this season they have had 24,154/game. Is the team any better? No. They appear to be getting worse, which is a bad combination when combined with the "newness" factor of their stadium fading, as it often does. Well, that sucks.
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Post by aztecnails on Oct 6, 2019 12:10:25 GMT -8
there is still time to add the brick wall like in Aztec bowl to the sidelines. this would be a tribute to where Aztec football started. sam boyd is a fun stadium to watch games. the tailgating on grass makes it great for fans.
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Post by aztecfred on Oct 6, 2019 12:15:57 GMT -8
post game stadium review. for me it was just ok. not a bowl, you have to go up steps like main entrance at Petco then back down 25-30 rows as I sat in row 4 in endzone,no back bench seat. field level is 8ft+/- below stands. U need to wear a hat as lights shine right in your eyes. their advertising boards surrounding the field constantly changed the color of the field and uni's, don't care for that. didn't partake in food and beverage so can't comment on that but, concourse was not that wide and hard to traverse pregame. restrooms not well marked and in semi hard to figure out where they were. A real big negative was really nice scoreboard in middle of horseshoe where 1/3 of fans have to turn completely around to see replay while open end was a patio/bar that didn't impress from afar. It was aesthetically pleasing inside and out for most part. located on campus among sports fields,greenbelt and parking for ample tailgating although not a lot of game day pay parking. Transportation was more than adequate with free trolley from downtown and shuttles around stadium. It was good experience over all but, I like our stadium design better. I do like that it is going to soccer friendly even though some of the obvious parameters that incurs. We need more than 6-8 FB games to help pay for upkeep. Soccer, concerts, HS championships, bocce ball whatever...Just Get'er Done! Sorry this was done on my small cell phone, so spare me the spelling,punctuation and grammar comments cause I really don't care. Out!
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Oct 6, 2019 12:23:31 GMT -8
there is still time to add the brick wall like in Aztec bowl to the sidelines. this would be a tribute to where Aztec football started. sam boyd is a fun stadium to watch games. the tailgating on grass makes it great for fans. UNLV is making a massive mistake. They should have worked with developers and turned that site into a festival spot with bars and amenities. They will regret being even slightly tied to the raiders.
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Post by aztecfred on Oct 6, 2019 12:23:47 GMT -8
I'm not sure a steeper design really defines it as a football versus soccer stadium. SC's stadium was more compact and vertical than the SDSU plan. Both would have raised the front row seating 4-5' above the playing field which is more important for football than soccer. Looking at the schematics of SDSU stadium it doesn't look to be near as steep as Viejas but likely steeper than the current stadium. But the current designers are designing a stadium around a rectangular field whereas the designers of the the original stadium also had to design for use as a baseball stadium. I think our stadium will be fairly similar to CSU's stadium: How is their acoustics? I've never seen their stadium filled so I wouldn't know. Didn't sound loud but, wasn't much to cheer about. They had the band in it's own little section in the corner and could hear them. Student section was along sidelines behind our bench and was standing whole half till halftime. Once again not much to cheer about so hard to tell. They had a few traditions the ran through and of course the screaming announcer and loud piped in music.
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Post by SuperAztec on Oct 6, 2019 20:27:49 GMT -8
there is still time to add the brick wall like in Aztec bowl to the sidelines. this would be a tribute to where Aztec football started. sam boyd is a fun stadium to watch games. the tailgating on grass makes it great for fans. That's a great idea - it would give it some "identity" The CSU stadium is cool but from the pics it seems lacking some define characteristic Don't get me wrong, it looks great, but something that makes you know your watching and SDSU game when you see the stadium (like the brick wall and/or something Aztec reated would be nice) Oh, and they better make it "removable" if its Aztec reast in case we offend any one.
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Post by AzTex on Oct 6, 2019 21:17:53 GMT -8
there is still time to add the brick wall like in Aztec bowl to the sidelines. this would be a tribute to where Aztec football started. sam boyd is a fun stadium to watch games. the tailgating on grass makes it great for fans. As I remember it's not brick, it's more of a rock/cobble stone wall.
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Post by rebar619 on Oct 7, 2019 9:02:58 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding.
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Post by AzTex on Oct 7, 2019 9:25:10 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding. There is supposed to be a scale model of the new stadium, along with other information and displays, near gate G (I believe) in the old Chargers store. It should available for viewing November 15th for the game against Fresno State. That should give us a much better idea of what the sight lines might be.
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Post by Den60 on Oct 7, 2019 9:55:09 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding. Individual seats? Because all I hear is that we will have seat backs which you can do along with bleacher seating:
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Post by aardvark on Oct 7, 2019 10:59:44 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding. Individual seats? Because all I hear is that we will have seat backs which you can do along with bleacher seating: Welcome to Sam Boyd Stadium West.
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Post by hoobs on Oct 7, 2019 11:15:01 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding. Individual seats? Because all I hear is that we will have seat backs which you can do along with bleacher seating: As long as the best ~30-40% of seating has individual seatbacks, this type of seating for the rest is totally sufficient.
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Post by aztecfred on Oct 7, 2019 12:00:28 GMT -8
Reading this thread it sounds like most of you have not been following the stadium development at all. The time to make mods to the design has passed. What you see in the renderings is what we will get, and it will be fantastic. There will not be bench seating, there will be seat backs. Also, the stadium will have great sight lines. It is going to be rather steep, more in line with what LAFC has in their stadium rather than what you see at Canvas Stadium. Take a few minutes to watch the presentation of the stadium design drawings on the Rocky Long Coaches show 2 weeks ago. The new digs will be outstanding. Individual seats? Because all I hear is that we will have seat backs which you can do along with bleacher seating:Expect this unless u gonna donate mo $$, mo $$, mo $$! Expect this unless u gonna donate mo $$, mo $$, mo $$!
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Post by matteosandiego on Oct 7, 2019 12:37:50 GMT -8
Individual seats? Because all I hear is that we will have seat backs which you can do along with bleacher seating:Expect this unless u gonna donate mo $$, mo $$, mo $$! Expect this unless u gonna donate mo $$, mo $$, mo $$! Personally i wouldnt mind this type of seatbacks for the student sections or way up top similar how Viejas has bench seating.
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Post by matteosandiego on Oct 7, 2019 12:46:54 GMT -8
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