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Post by RockNFish on Dec 19, 2012 13:56:33 GMT -8
Yeah, good luck with that! Negotiations, I'm told, are going very well. Well enough? Who knows? Yoda out... . I can't image the mw would be able to compete - too many really small markets. At least the BE has a chance to start from scratch and get decent size markets top-to-bottom.
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Post by monty on Dec 19, 2012 13:56:58 GMT -8
How is this news? Everyone with a brain knows they have been contacted by now. I'm sure most MW schools have been contacted. There isn't one mention in the article that they have any interest in joining. That's the takeaway from this. there have been plenty of whispers before this that THEY initiated they contact
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Post by aztech on Dec 19, 2012 13:57:16 GMT -8
I would have to think having an all sports conference for the New Big East is what has to happen. That would be a pretty good western division for TV. I agree and I hope both Fresno State and UNLV insist upon it, or say no. This hybrid crap is pointless. Since the Catholics left Aresco has a chance to build a real conference now.
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Post by panammaniac on Dec 19, 2012 13:57:27 GMT -8
Also, I'm not sure how Fresno / UNLV could go just football to Big East. They can't keep their other sports in the MWC and while the Big West would be a great spot for both, is there enough value to the Big West to have SDSU/UNLV/Fresno/Boise for a year or two until they all move to the Big East in all sports (which would seem likely). The WAC would take UNLV and Fresno in a heartbeat if all else failed, even if it was only for a year or two until a new all-sports conference formed.
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Post by aztecan on Dec 19, 2012 13:58:59 GMT -8
Yeah, good luck with that! Negotiations, I'm told, are going very well. Well enough? Who knows? Yoda out... I doubt what you are hearing is true. However, if it is it could help the nBE TV deal. Their still could be a smaller version of a bidding war between networks.
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Post by votecarcetti on Dec 19, 2012 13:59:24 GMT -8
and mwc is trying to negoiciate with cbs about their contract Successful negotiations for the MWC: MWC: Can you give us more money? CBS: No. MWC: Can you give us our third-tier rights so we can sell games to your competitors? CBS: No. MWC: Then can you promise not to pick up that option for 2019, so we can go out on the open market in three years? CBS: No. MWC: Well, can I have that pen? CBS: ... what? MWC: The one on your desk. With the CBS logo on it. CBS: Um ... I guess? MWC: YESSSSSSS!
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Dec 19, 2012 14:00:39 GMT -8
I'm sure most MW schools have been contacted. Really? You really think Colorado State, Wyoming, Hawaii, New Mexico and Nevada have been contacted? This is moving down the path most of us thought it would. A national all sports conference split into east/west that is comprised of the most valuable schools remaining from the Big East, MWC, and C USA. Those who make the cut this round will give themselves a shot at one of the super conferences during the next round of expansion. ..Sent from my GS3..
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Post by aztech on Dec 19, 2012 14:01:51 GMT -8
Also, I'm not sure how Fresno / UNLV could go just football to Big East. They can't keep their other sports in the MWC and while the Big West would be a great spot for both, is there enough value to the Big West to have SDSU/UNLV/Fresno/Boise for a year or two until they all move to the Big East in all sports (which would seem likely). The WAC would take UNLV and Fresno in a heartbeat if all else failed, even if it was only for a year or two until a new all-sports conference formed. At this juncture, isn't it true that they can't leave the MWC until 2014 anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 14:02:15 GMT -8
Also, I'm not sure how Fresno / UNLV could go just football to Big East. They can't keep their other sports in the MWC and while the Big West would be a great spot for both, is there enough value to the Big West to have SDSU/UNLV/Fresno/Boise for a year or two until they all move to the Big East in all sports (which would seem likely). Both would place their Olympic sports in the BigLots just like we have. However, I don't see either one agreeing to go without some guarantee that the BE west will become an all-sports division under certain circumstances. It's rather funny how a number of psoters to the BE board have recently started opposing creation of an all-sports West. They seem oblivious to the probability that UConn and Cincinnati are now merely short-timers so the composition of the East will eventually be no better than that of the West.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Dec 19, 2012 14:02:58 GMT -8
Oh boy, RRoberta is going go have a fit! Will he support/join the "dirty rat traitors"
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Post by monty on Dec 19, 2012 14:04:07 GMT -8
Also, I'm not sure how Fresno / UNLV could go just football to Big East. They can't keep their other sports in the MWC and while the Big West would be a great spot for both, is there enough value to the Big West to have SDSU/UNLV/Fresno/Boise for a year or two until they all move to the Big East in all sports (which would seem likely). Both would place their Olympic sports in the BigLots just like we have. However, I don't see either one agreeing to go without some guarantee that the BE west will become an all-sports division under certain circumstances. It's rather funny how a number of psoters to the BE board have recently started opposing creation of an all-sports West. They seem oblivious to the probability that UConn and Cincinnati are now merely short-timers so the composition of the East will eventually be no better than that of the West. To be fair, it's just a couple of dumbshit Houston fans that live in Virginia and respect Jerry Falwell, RetiredCougar being the most vocal and dumbest of them.
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Post by RockNFish on Dec 19, 2012 14:04:14 GMT -8
The WAC would take UNLV and Fresno in a heartbeat if all else failed, even if it was only for a year or two until a new all-sports conference formed. At this juncture, isn't it true that they can't leave the MWC until 2014 anyway? Not possitive but they probably could leave now, but with a higher penaty (the BE has plenty of exit fee money to pay up though)
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Post by monty on Dec 19, 2012 14:05:14 GMT -8
Yeah, good luck with that! Negotiations, I'm told, are going very well. Well enough? Who knows? Yoda out... . More inside info from your buddy Hot Karl Benson? This post assuredly means that the mwc is not getting a cent more from CBS for the next half dozen years
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Post by PQ Aztec on Dec 19, 2012 14:05:41 GMT -8
Houston, SMU, Boise State, San Diego State, BYU, Air Force/Nevada, UNLV, Fresno State Not a bad group of football teams if they can pull this off. Short of the Pac 12 or Big 12, I think this is our best choice of happening
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Post by longtimebooster on Dec 19, 2012 14:06:56 GMT -8
Successful negotiations for the MWC: MWC: Can you give us more money? CBS: No. MWC: Can you give us our third-tier rights so we can sell games to your competitors? CBS: No. MWC: Then can you promise not to pick up that option for 2019, so we can go out on the open market in three years? CBS: No. MWC: Well, can I have that pen? CBS: ... what? MWC: The one on your desk. With the CBS logo on it. CBS: Um ... I guess? MWC: YESSSSSSS! Oh, man. That's funny. Also, sad, but true.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 14:07:45 GMT -8
Both would place their Olympic sports in the BigLots just like we have. However, I don't see either one agreeing to go without some guarantee that the BE west will become an all-sports division under certain circumstances. It's rather funny how a number of psoters to the BE board have recently started opposing creation of an all-sports West. They seem oblivious to the probability that UConn and Cincinnati are now merely short-timers so the composition of the East will eventually be no better than that of the West. To be fair, it's just a couple of dumbshit Houston fans that live in Virginia and respect Jerry Falwell, RetiredCougar being the most vocal and dumbest of them. Also dumbshit fans of St. Johns, Louisville and Cincinnati, none of which will even be in the BE two years from now. Gotta say, though, that it's somehow comforting that the percentage of mindless dolts is just as high on the BE board as it is on the MWC board. Well, almost as high. Edit: Have to add this. The most favored new name on the BE board for the rebuilt BE is the National Athletic Conference. I'm LOL as I type that. National Athletic Conference. Or the NAC for short. "Get the NAC." Phonetically, that was the name of an album by the band that did My Sharona. That has to be the reason why a bunch of old farts my age favor something as boring and unimaginative as the National Athletic Conference. There's no other explanation for it.
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Post by aztech on Dec 19, 2012 14:11:11 GMT -8
Also, I'm not sure how Fresno / UNLV could go just football to Big East. They can't keep their other sports in the MWC and while the Big West would be a great spot for both, is there enough value to the Big West to have SDSU/UNLV/Fresno/Boise for a year or two until they all move to the Big East in all sports (which would seem likely). Both would place their Olympic sports in the BigLots just like we have. However, I don't see either one agreeing to go without some guarantee that the BE west will become an all-sports division under certain circumstances. It's rather funny how a number of psoters to the BE board have recently started opposing creation of an all-sports West. They seem oblivious to the probability that UConn and Cincinnati are now merely short-timers so the composition of the East will eventually be no better than that of the West. If UConn and Cincy do leave the West will be the stronger division, by far. We know it, they know it and they couldn't live with it, but too bad for them. Aresco has to make a living and he'll recommend what's best for the conference.
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Post by Strawberry Puppy Kisses on Dec 19, 2012 14:11:50 GMT -8
Yeah, good luck with that! Negotiations, I'm told, are going very well. Well enough? Who knows? Yoda out... . Guy, when I told you the negotiations were going "awesome", I also said not to take it seriously. So gullible!
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Post by monty on Dec 19, 2012 14:12:37 GMT -8
To be fair, it's just a couple of dumbshit Houston fans that live in Virginia and respect Jerry Falwell, RetiredCougar being the most vocal and dumbest of them. Also dumbshit fans of St. Johns, Louisville and Cincinnati, none of which will even be in the BE two years from now. Gotta say, though, that it's somehow comforting that the percentage of mindless dolts is just as high on the BE board as it is on the MWC board. Well, almost as high. Yup. My new favorite thread is the guy trying to cook the books against the Big Yeast in tv demos using census numbers, giving whole states to conferences, threatening to take others away if the rabble doesn't simmer down etc. That is one of the funnier threads I've read in years --- you quiet down with those facts or I'm taking away San Diego and DFW tv sets!
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Post by jediwarrior on Dec 19, 2012 14:14:18 GMT -8
I started this thread on the Realignment Board 6 months ago. I highlighted why Fresno, UNLV, and Hawaii were excellent choices for the BE. Lotta "haters" back then. csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=578766
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