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Post by William L. Rupp on Sept 26, 2012 17:10:14 GMT -8
Our policy has always been to allow the broadest leeway to posters with respect to topics, consistent, of course, with good taste and legal constraints. At this moment, however, my preference for freedom of expression is being taxed by what I consider ridiculous speculation about possible replacements for a head coach who is in his second year at the helm and so far has a W/L record at SDSU of 10-7.
Everybody short of Fielding Yost and Vince Lombardi have been mentioned. Yes, Yost and Lombardi are dead, but so, I believe are some of the names thrown out for consideration. Okay, maybe they aren't dead, but some must be as old as I am, and that ain't young! Most of the others would likely laugh at the possibility of coaching here.
Foolishness! It's all foolishness. I am seriously tempted to ban any "new head coach" threads until such time as Rocky Long is fired, close to being fired, or has announced his retirement. I won't take action on my tempation - - - yet - - -, but can I at least suggest that it is a waste of time speculating on this topic at this point?
I get the feeling that many Aztec fans think they are rooting for Michigan, a school at which a coach who wins only 8 games a year is on a very hot seat and at which a coach who wins only 7 needs to start cleaning out his office.
I think we are talking about the inability to see reality for what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 17:13:25 GMT -8
While I an normally all for freedom of the boards....YES. They're getting lame. Rocky isn't exactly Chuck Long 2.0. The team has struggled this year, but it's too early to call for heads.
Or at least combine them into one "Guys I would like to have coach SDSU football" thread.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 17:19:58 GMT -8
Deleting those threads would be fine with me. However, William, I warn you that unless we put together a few quality performances, they'll just return with the next bad loss.
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Post by MontezumaBen on Sept 26, 2012 17:29:05 GMT -8
+1 for getting rid of them. if there were 100 topics a week about pizza, I'd be for locking them too. and I love pizza. enough is enough.
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Post by monty on Sept 26, 2012 17:31:28 GMT -8
Do what you will. But a coach that won 7 D1a games last year against teams that were a combined 24-62 should sure as hell be on the hot seat.
He is the benefactor of the watered down schedule previous coaches have pleaded for - Tom Craft would still be employed here with this schedule. Tom Craft won 5 games against teams that were a combined 26-32 in his last season.
There has never been a less impressive 8 win season in football history than last year, to use that evidence of what a success Long is and how cool his seat is, is part of the reason these threads should remain. Some of you guys need to wake up and smell what's been put in a lunchbag and set on fire on your doorstep.
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Post by 99levi on Sept 26, 2012 17:38:49 GMT -8
+1. It's hump day. Let's move on. But you can't lose to sjsu....
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Post by insider on Sept 26, 2012 17:46:26 GMT -8
Well a coach who has the program obviously going backwords, can't beat a team with a pulse that doesn't have a gimmicky offense, that often has the team not ready to prepare from the start, that makes built in excuses before every season because he has very low expectations has no reason to be a SDSU head coach. You can do whatever you want, but the idea that suggesting SDSU would be better off without Rocky Long going forward is very logical. Not everyone has to have blind aztec color shades here that says everything is perfect and nothing is wrong when it is obvious SDSU football isn't making positive progress under the direct of the current head football coach.
Of those 10 wins, 2 come against FCS oppenents, 6 came against teams that didn't win more than 4 games last year, and 1 against a winless Army team this year. So basically he has beaten 9 cupcakes. He has also lost to 3 mediocre at best teams in Wyoming, Louisiana-Lafayette, and SJSU. So why exactly is insane to speculate about his fate as SDSU head coach? You have your shades on thick if you think Rocky Long has this program headed in the right direction.
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Post by nctyaztec on Sept 26, 2012 17:46:53 GMT -8
^ this ^
I'm just underwhelmed by a coach that told us that most of the pieces are in place and the results say otherwise.
I thought Long was using the Lou Holtz technique of pumping up the patsies before the games but he was really in over his head.
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Post by insider on Sept 26, 2012 17:49:11 GMT -8
While I an normally all for freedom of the boards....YES. They're getting lame. Rocky isn't exactly Chuck Long 2.0. The team has struggled this year, but it's too early to call for heads. Or at least combine them into one "Guys I would like to have coach SDSU football" thread. Nobody said he was, there are plenty of better coaches than Chuck Long that are also incompetent.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 26, 2012 17:56:47 GMT -8
Question Mr. Rupp, did the school administration have anything to do with you putting up this post?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 26, 2012 18:13:22 GMT -8
Question Mr. Rupp, did the school administration have anything to do with you putting up this post? I haven't talked with him about it, but I think I can accurately say that no one from SDSU has contacted Aztec William about anything on this board. I'm all for combining the coach threads into one mega thread until there is a real possibility of Long's job opening up. As of today there is zero chance that Long gets fired or retires. Three or four weeks from now? Who know? But as of right now it's more than a little premature to go over potential replacements for Rocky.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 26, 2012 18:26:16 GMT -8
Question Mr. Rupp, did the school administration have anything to do with you putting up this post? I haven't talked with him about it, but I think I can accurately say that no one from SDSU has contacted Aztec William about anything on this board. I'm all for combining the coach threads into one mega thread until there is a real possibility of Long's job opening up. As of today there is zero chance that Long gets fired or retires. Three or four weeks from now? Who know? But as of right now it's more than a little premature to go over potential replacements for Rocky. I've read Mr. Rupp's post several times and it's not very persuasive at all. Who exactly is being offended by discussing firing or replacing? Rocky? The administration? Are we using too much ban width and the board is being surcharged? I assume he has the power to "pull the plug", but to what end?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 26, 2012 18:29:14 GMT -8
It just gets old - the same old thing with a different thread title. Same topic, different thread. The board gets congested with replacement coach talk when there isn't an opening, and there won't be an opening any time soon. In track you get disqualified for jumping the gun multiple times...
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Post by myownwords on Sept 26, 2012 18:32:49 GMT -8
It just gets old - the same old thing with a different thread title. Same topic, different thread. The board gets congested with replacement coach talk when there isn't an opening, and there won't be an opening any time soon. In track you get disqualified for jumping the gun multiple times... Maybe, but I would suspect that as this week's game draws close most of the talk will revolve around that and this issue would have gone away on its own (for now), thereby saving the heavy hand for something more deserving, yes?
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Post by uncledougy on Sept 26, 2012 18:33:25 GMT -8
I find it strange that discussing possible coaches is such an important topic to warrant a ban? Isn't the forum for fans and their exchange of thoughts? It wouldn't be a topic if the fans felt comfortable with what was going on. Frankly it's far from premature, its almost a necessity at this point for the long term growth of the program. How far must it go back after Hoke until people finally realize we don't have a coach for the future?
A coach knows going in they are in a very hot seat. It is up to them to cool it off.....win, and the seat gets ice cold. Lose and show little to no improvememt and it'll get toasty (or at least it should if you want a winning program).
Off my soapbox now....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 18:37:21 GMT -8
I don't think your opinion either way should go into the decision on whether to keep the threads up. It's the quantity of them that's over the top, not the question. Just create an "Official Coaching Future Thread" and delete any other threads that pop up.
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Post by Village Aztec on Sept 26, 2012 18:43:00 GMT -8
These posts wait until the season is over? How can you call these posts productive and educational? You can speculate on a new coach when the old one is fired. Would a coach want to come here knowing he will not get support like the old one?
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Post by myownwords on Sept 26, 2012 18:55:27 GMT -8
These posts wait until the season is over? How can you call these posts productive and educational? You can speculate on a new coach when the old one is fired. Would a coach want to come here knowing he will not get support like the old one? Gaining, maintaining or losing "support" is a function of how fans view a coach's performance. Perhaps you find Rocky's performance acceptable, but some do not.
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Post by azteccc on Sept 26, 2012 18:55:33 GMT -8
i couldn't care less about rocky long and his job security (or lack there of).
but banning a thread topic is ridiculous. if they are about the exact same thing, then sure, close one.
but if one thread is about one possible replacement and the other is a poll about how many losses rocky gets and another is about etc. etc. etc., it would be blatant censoring to not allow them.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Sept 26, 2012 18:58:35 GMT -8
Let’s get this out of our system and move on. Start Saturday off fresh and starting Saturday lock all threads about hiring a new coach and immediately lock any new threads. But I say allow new ones again after the season is over. Don’t delete just lock.
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