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Post by kozy on Jul 20, 2012 9:09:17 GMT -8
Thought I look at the commitments to PAC 10/12 schools. We are competing for similar student athletes. We know it, the recruits know it. So where do the PAC 10 school commitment sit today
UA 22
ASu 6
UCLA 11
USC 16
Utah 7
Colo 12
Wash 16
WSU 10
OSU 3
OU 8
Cal 8
Stan 6
Assuming 22 scholarships per school, there are 250 PAC 10 scholarships this year. So far they have 125 commitments or 50% are gone. That starts to put pressure on players who don't have the firm commitment, maybe it time to firm up the SDSU offer?
We are not at the beginning of recruiting but at the midpoint. The premier athlete can wait and pick and choose, however the 3 star is under pressure to commit now. We may enter football season with a nearly full stable of recruits, good quality recruits. Keep on it staff.
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 9:34:49 GMT -8
Thought I look at the commitments to PAC 10/12 schools. We are competing for similar student athletes. We know it, the recruits know it. So where do the PAC 10 school commitment sit today UA 22 ASu 6 UCLA 11 USC 16 Utah 7 Colo 12 Wash 16 WSU 10 OSU 3 OU 8 Cal 8 Stan 6 Assuming 22 scholarships per school, there are 250 PAC 10 scholarships this year. So far they have 125 commitments or 50% are gone. That starts to put pressure on players who don't have the firm commitment, maybe it time to firm up the SDSU offer? We are not at the beginning of recruiting but at the midpoint. The premier athlete can wait and pick and choose, however the 3 star is under pressure to commit now. We may enter football season with a nearly full stable of recruits, good quality recruits. Keep on it staff. If we beat ASU, UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington or even Utah for more than 1, maybe 2 guys, I will be very surprised. We can battle with CU and WSU no doubt, we have proven that. It will be very difficult to go head to head with the programs I listed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 11:38:46 GMT -8
Just for the halibut, I checked the dates our recruits for the 2012 class committed. Since there was absolutely no rhyme or reason to it, I'm not at all concerned that we don't have more commitments right now. Assuming we bring in a few of the more highly-rated guys we're after, we should be fine. Although that might depend not only on how many go with Pac-12 schools first but on how good a football season we have this fall.
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Post by jdgaucho on Jul 20, 2012 11:54:36 GMT -8
Thought I look at the commitments to PAC 10/12 schools. We are competing for similar student athletes. We know it, the recruits know it. So where do the PAC 10 school commitment sit today UA 22 ASu 6 UCLA 11 USC 16 Utah 7 Colo 12 Wash 16 WSU 10 OSU 3 OU 8 Cal 8 Stan 6 Assuming 22 scholarships per school, there are 250 PAC 10 scholarships this year. So far they have 125 commitments or 50% are gone. That starts to put pressure on players who don't have the firm commitment, maybe it time to firm up the SDSU offer? We are not at the beginning of recruiting but at the midpoint. The premier athlete can wait and pick and choose, however the 3 star is under pressure to commit now. We may enter football season with a nearly full stable of recruits, good quality recruits. Keep on it staff. If we beat ASU, UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington or even Utah for more than 1, maybe 2 guys, I will be very surprised. We can battle with CU and WSU no doubt, we have proven that. It will be very difficult to go head to head with the programs I listed. UCLA is the intriguing player here. They have a top 15 class but a new coach and five years or so of being a joke despite their great classes. You'll probably beat them for a guy or two. |
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 12:18:39 GMT -8
If we beat ASU, UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington or even Utah for more than 1, maybe 2 guys, I will be very surprised. We can battle with CU and WSU no doubt, we have proven that. It will be very difficult to go head to head with the programs I listed. UCLA is the intriguing player here. They have a top 15 class but a new coach and five years or so of being a joke despite their great classes. You'll probably beat them for a guy or two. I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it. They already have commits from players from GA, TN, TX, WA and UT. Regardless of how the program has performed over the past few years, the UCLA name is still very highly regarded. They can recruit nationally. They are offering a completely different type of recruit than SDSU is this season. |
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Post by jdgaucho on Jul 20, 2012 12:29:17 GMT -8
UCLA is the intriguing player here. They have a top 15 class but a new coach and five years or so of being a joke despite their great classes. You'll probably beat them for a guy or two. I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it. They already have commits from players from GA, TN, TX, WA and UT. Regardless of how the program has performed over the past few years, the UCLA name is still very highly regarded. They can recruit nationally. They are offering a completely different type of recruit than SDSU is this season. true. However, UCLA still has the shame of playing of playing in a bowl game last year at 6-7. their "prestige" has to have taken a hit from that |
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Post by aztech on Jul 20, 2012 12:44:45 GMT -8
I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it. They already have commits from players from GA, TN, TX, WA and UT. Regardless of how the program has performed over the past few years, the UCLA name is still very highly regarded. They can recruit nationally. They are offering a completely different type of recruit than SDSU is this season. That's very true, always was and always will be. Yet they've been beaten by schools they shouldn't have lost to. Sound familiar? |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 14:21:04 GMT -8
I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it. They already have commits from players from GA, TN, TX, WA and UT. Regardless of how the program has performed over the past few years, the UCLA name is still very highly regarded. They can recruit nationally. They are offering a completely different type of recruit than SDSU is this season. true. However, UCLA still has the shame of playing of playing in a bowl game last year at 6-7. their "prestige" has to have taken a hit from that I think that "shame" was flushed away the moment they fired their coach and hired Jim Mora. I was not a fan of his, but he's obviously impressing the recruits. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 14:27:22 GMT -8
true. However, UCLA still has the shame of playing of playing in a bowl game last year at 6-7. their "prestige" has to have taken a hit from that I think that "shame" was flushed away the moment they fired their coach and hired Jim Mora. I was not a fan of his, but he's obviously impressing the recruits. It's not so much Mora, it's the recruiting coordinator he hired away from June Jones. HUGE loss for SMU. (Too bad Craigy James.) |
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 14:31:02 GMT -8
true. However, UCLA still has the shame of playing of playing in a bowl game last year at 6-7. their "prestige" has to have taken a hit from that I think that "shame" was flushed away the moment they fired their coach and hired Jim Mora. I was not a fan of his, but he's obviously impressing the recruits. We'll see how long it stays washed away. He put together a recruiting super staff but it remains to be seen if he/they can coach them up... |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 14:46:56 GMT -8
I think that "shame" was flushed away the moment they fired their coach and hired Jim Mora. I was not a fan of his, but he's obviously impressing the recruits. It's not so much Mora, it's the recruiting coordinator he hired away from June Jones. HUGE loss for SMU. (Too bad Craigy James.) True, but please notice that at this point SMU is one slot ahead of Oregon in national rankings for recruiting, and one tick behind TCU. So they haven't quite tanked. |
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Post by monty on Jul 20, 2012 14:48:50 GMT -8
How the hell does UofA have so many recruits already? A nothing program with a coach that is coming off a miserable fail.
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 20, 2012 15:03:49 GMT -8
How the hell does UofA have so many recruits already? A nothing program with a coach that is coming off a miserable fail. Low standards? (just guessing) |
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Post by sdfootballfan on Jul 20, 2012 15:07:17 GMT -8
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 15:07:21 GMT -8
How the hell does UofA have so many recruits already? A nothing program with a coach that is coming off a miserable fail. Look at their commit's and their offer lists. They have a lot of guys with no other offers. However, they did just get a commit from Jacob Alsadek, the 6'7, 325 OT from Torrey Pines HS. SDSU didn't offer a BCS level OT in their own back yard. He is too big I guess. At least we got a commit from a 255 pound sleeper OT from Tuscon. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 15:12:42 GMT -8
How the hell does UofA have so many recruits already? A nothing program with a coach that is coming off a miserable fail. Look at their commit's and their offer lists. They have a lot of guys with no other offers. However, they did just get a commit from Jacob Alsadek, the 6'7, 325 OT from Torrey Pines HS. SDSU didn't offer a BCS level OT in their own back yard. He is too big I guess. At least we got a commit from a 255 pound sleeper OT from Tuscon. That's, well, disappointing...and odd. We seem to have a penchant for continuing to struggle. We must like it that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 15:22:24 GMT -8
It's not so much Mora, it's the recruiting coordinator he hired away from June Jones. HUGE loss for SMU. (Too bad Craigy James.) True, but please notice that at this point SMU is one slot ahead of Oregon in national rankings for recruiting, and one tick behind TCU. So they haven't quite tanked. I do notice that. However, and don't think I'm one of your critics for saying this, you need to understand how these rankings work this time of year. Rivals gives out kudos for simply getting commitments. So SMU is very high in the Rivals rankings right now because the Mustangs have 16 commits. However, five have been given three stars and the other 11 are all 2-star kids. That's really not all that impressive and not close to where SMU was at this time a year ago. Edit: Scout's average rating for SMU's 16 commits: 2.06. Scout's average rating for SDSU's 7 commits: 2.29. |
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 15:38:06 GMT -8
True, but please notice that at this point SMU is one slot ahead of Oregon in national rankings for recruiting, and one tick behind TCU. So they haven't quite tanked. I do notice that. However, and don't think I'm one of your critics for saying this, you need to understand how these rankings work this time of year. Rivals gives out kudos for simply getting commitments. So SMU is very high in the Rivals rankings right now because the Mustangs have 16 commits. However, five have been given three stars and the other 11 are all 2-star kids. That's really not all that impressive and not close to where SMU was at this time a year ago. Edit: Scout's average rating for SMU's 16 commits: 2.06. Scout's average rating for SDSU's 7 commits: 2.29. I see your point. Jones has proven himself over the years, so I expect him to do well. I think SMU is going to be a very good "Western" member with us going forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 15:40:57 GMT -8
SMU barely kept Jones around for another year. As you may recall, Jones accepted an offer to go to Arizona but rescinded his acceptance a day later and then they immediately hired Todd Graham.
SMU hasn't been drawing flies. If that continues despite Jones getting them to a bowl game every year, he's gonna be gone eventually.
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 15:42:09 GMT -8
How the hell does UofA have so many recruits already? A nothing program with a coach that is coming off a miserable fail. Look at their commit's and their offer lists. They have a lot of guys with no other offers. However, they did just get a commit from Jacob Alsadek, the 6'7, 325 OT from Torrey Pines HS. SDSU didn't offer a BCS level OT in their own back yard. He is too big I guess. At least we got a commit from a 255 pound sleeper OT from Tuscon. Have you seen the kids video? If you haven't watch it... There's a reason we didn't offer him IMHO. |
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