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Post by kozy on Jul 20, 2012 15:58:03 GMT -8
Maybe he wasn't interested in us. It happens! When someone says no a half dozen times, they might really mean it. He was interested in 8 schools, UA, ASU, BSU, UC, KSU, Stanford, UCLA, Vanderbilt. Got 4 offers, AU, ASU, UC and KSU. Kid is unranked his 6'7" 325 lbs got him a free ride at UA. Colorado has four 3 star commitments today for OL. Kid looks big, probably weak upper body and too heavy, he needs to get below 300 lbs, not only to play football but for his health.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 16:01:22 GMT -8
Look at their commit's and their offer lists. They have a lot of guys with no other offers. However, they did just get a commit from Jacob Alsadek, the 6'7, 325 OT from Torrey Pines HS. SDSU didn't offer a BCS level OT in their own back yard. He is too big I guess. At least we got a commit from a 255 pound sleeper OT from Tuscon. Have you seen the kids video? If you haven't watch it... There's a reason we didn't offer him IMHO. James, I'm not sure why you pulled this up. I see a guy taking down 2 and 3 others on defense. Maybe I'm not a good "evaluator", but wow, can not understand why we showed no interest, unless we assumed (Tollneresque?) that we had no chance.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 16:02:29 GMT -8
Maybe he wasn't interested in us. It happens! When someone says no a half dozen times, they might really mean it. He was interested in 8 schools, UA, ASU, BSU, UC, KSU, Stanford, UCLA, Vanderbilt. Got 4 offers, AU, ASU, UC and KSU. Kid is unranked his 6'7" 325 lbs got him a free ride at UA. Colorado has four 3 star commitments today for OL. Kid looks big, probably weak upper body and too heavy, he needs to get below 300 lbs, not only to play football but for his health. That's very possible. He may have slammed the door in our face.
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Post by kozy on Jul 20, 2012 16:15:52 GMT -8
We have 12 OL offers out today, 7 are 3 stars, 2 2 stars, 2 JUCO's , 1 unranked HS.
He probably wasn't even on their radar. That's the fun of recruiting, trying to figure out what one staff saw in a player that another didn't.
Good luck at UA.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 17:51:06 GMT -8
We have 12 OL offers out today, 7 are 3 stars, 2 2 stars, 2 JUCO's , 1 unranked HS. He probably wasn't even on their radar. That's the fun of recruiting, trying to figure out what one staff saw in a player that another didn't. Good luck at UA. But how can we not have him on our radar when he's within a 20 to 30 minute drive from SDSU? In fact, how can ANYONE in San Diego County NOT be on our radar?
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Post by kozy on Jul 20, 2012 18:06:52 GMT -8
Lets put out there, he's not good enough. Living within 20 miles of the Mesa doesn't make him good.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 19:04:52 GMT -8
Lets put out there, he's not good enough. Living within 20 miles of the Mesa doesn't make him good. You may be correct. Maybe they "looked" and didn't see any potential.
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Post by dshawfan on Jul 20, 2012 19:49:32 GMT -8
We have 12 OL offers out today, 7 are 3 stars, 2 2 stars, 2 JUCO's , 1 unranked HS. He probably wasn't even on their radar. That's the fun of recruiting, trying to figure out what one staff saw in a player that another didn't. Good luck at UA. But how can we not have him on our radar when he's within a 20 to 30 minute drive from SDSU? In fact, how can ANYONE in San Diego County NOT be on our radar? I don't know if he was on their radar or not, but I do know that ever since Hoke arrived on the Mesa that the Aztec asst. coaches have been very active amongst the local HS teams. That first year, Sipe was practically a bi-monthly attendee at our practices and we had nothing to show him at the time, but he came anyway to build relationships. He continues to visit, although not as frequently now and is very aware of what talent there is in our area. I don't know which coach handles the North County schools, but I would expect they are just as active as Sipe is w/ us. Under Coach Long, we would get a phone call once a year to see if there was anything they needed to stop by and see. Under Craft, we had one coach visit one time to look at a TE/OT prospect.
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 20:00:49 GMT -8
Have you seen the kids video? If you haven't watch it... There's a reason we didn't offer him IMHO. James, I'm not sure why you pulled this up. I see a guy taking down 2 and 3 others on defense. Maybe I'm not a good "evaluator", but wow, can not understand why we showed no interest, unless we assumed (Tollneresque?) that we had no chance. To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 20, 2012 20:28:13 GMT -8
James, I'm not sure why you pulled this up. I see a guy taking down 2 and 3 others on defense. Maybe I'm not a good "evaluator", but wow, can not understand why we showed no interest, unless we assumed (Tollneresque?) that we had no chance. To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO. I don't mind blunt at all. That's why I asked.
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 20:30:33 GMT -8
James, I'm not sure why you pulled this up. I see a guy taking down 2 and 3 others on defense. Maybe I'm not a good "evaluator", but wow, can not understand why we showed no interest, unless we assumed (Tollneresque?) that we had no chance. To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO. Its hilarious how you talk $#!+ about myownword and I because of our evaluations of our current commits. A kid with 4 BCS offer that we did not offer is slow and not athletic enough. Get real man. You see more from Rosales than him?
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 20:44:24 GMT -8
To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO. I don't mind blunt at all. That's why I asked. In contrast, here's tape of Siragusa who's roughly the same size... www.sandiegoballers.com/12SiragusaNico2011.wmvFast forward to the drive blocking part and watch how his feet don't stop and compare it to Alsadek.
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 20:49:24 GMT -8
To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO. Its hilarious how you talk $#!+ about myownword and I because of our evaluations of our current commits. A kid with 4 BCS offer that we did not offer is slow and not athletic enough. Get real man. You see more from Rosales than him? Rosales is certainly more athletic right now. Alsadek may grow into his body and become more athletic and that may be what the coaches that have offered him see. Me personally, I don't. I'm going by what I see on film as that's all we can really do, and when I say by film, I don't mean how far he pushes some undersized kid down the field or how quickly he can push that same undersized kid down and lay on him. I'm talking about his footwork, hip flexibility, hand punch, etc...
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Post by rmksdsu30 on Jul 20, 2012 20:55:53 GMT -8
To me the torrey pines kid was a leaner no upper power what so ever, he had a hard time getting leverage, hes just well big and he better hit the weight room.
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 21:05:26 GMT -8
Its hilarious how you talk $#!+ about myownword and I because of our evaluations of our current commits. A kid with 4 BCS offer that we did not offer is slow and not athletic enough. Get real man. You see more from Rosales than him? Rosales is certainly more athletic right now. Alsadek may grow into his body and become more athletic and that may be what the coaches that have offered him see. Me personally, I don't. I'm going by what I see on film as that's all we can really do, and when I say by film, I don't mean how far he pushes some undersized kid down the field or how quickly he can push that same undersized kid down and lay on him. I'm talking about his footwork, hip flexibility, hand punch, etc... Myownword and I do the same thing with out current commits, we look at the film. If we have anything negative to say we are $#!+ on.
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 21:06:11 GMT -8
To put it bluntly, I don't think you know what you're looking at. I see a large, slow kid with bad feet. He leans into defenders, he doesn't drive them. He very rarely blocked more than one defender. He MAY blossom into something but, right now, I just don't see it. He looks at best a RG in a downhill running scheme to me. Kansas State would be the best destination for him out of all of his offers IMHO. I don't mind blunt at all. That's why I asked. Contrast his tape with Arthur Flores as well, who's 6-6 300lbs...
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 21:07:23 GMT -8
Rosales is certainly more athletic right now. Alsadek may grow into his body and become more athletic and that may be what the coaches that have offered him see. Me personally, I don't. I'm going by what I see on film as that's all we can really do, and when I say by film, I don't mean how far he pushes some undersized kid down the field or how quickly he can push that same undersized kid down and lay on him. I'm talking about his footwork, hip flexibility, hand punch, etc... Myownword and I do the same thing with out current commits, we look at the film. If we have anything negative to say we are $#!+ on. I haven't seen you guys comment once on a recruits tape. I see a whole lot of gnashing of teeth over how many offers they have or star rankings...
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 21:14:58 GMT -8
Myownword and I do the same thing with out current commits, we look at the film. If we have anything negative to say we are $#!+ on. I haven't seen you guys comment once on a recruits tape. I see a whole lot of gnashing of teeth over how many offers they have or star rankings... Ok man. SDSU coaches see something in a sleeper prospect from Tucson and nobody else does and we are mining a diamond in the rough. If 4 BCS schools offer a kid that we don't offer, he didnt fit our mold, he has slow feet. Myownword and I have comment plenty of times on different recruits. We may not have offered specify commentary on film, but we don't make our elevations on an offer list, we both look at film, just like you. It really doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, it matter what the coaches think. I will also say, I do think a offer list is a good gauge in evaluating a prospect. All coaches across the nation see the same film as you and I do. Quit being such a homer.
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Post by k5james on Jul 20, 2012 21:20:43 GMT -8
I haven't seen you guys comment once on a recruits tape. I see a whole lot of gnashing of teeth over how many offers they have or star rankings... Ok man. SDSU coaches see something in a sleeper prospect from Tucson and nobody else does and we are mining a diamond in the rough. If 4 BCS schools offer a kid that we don't offer, he didnt fit our mold, he has slow feet. Myownword and I have comment plenty of times on how we are not impressed with recruits. We may not have offered specify commentary on film, but we don't make our elevations on an offer list, we both look at film, just like you. It really doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, it matter what the coaches think. I will also say, I do think a offer list is a good gauge in evaluating a prospect. All coaches see the same film. Quit being such a homer. Lol, yeah, because "not impressed" is great commentary. At least I have enough respect for your intelligence to point out what I don't like about a recruit... Nobody else? Scout's Southwest recruiting analyst ranked the number 8 OL in AZ... idaho.scout.com/2/1203544.html
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Post by spgonzo on Jul 20, 2012 21:21:54 GMT -8
Ok man. SDSU coaches see something in a sleeper prospect from Tucson and nobody else does and we are mining a diamond in the rough. If 4 BCS schools offer a kid that we don't offer, he didnt fit our mold, he has slow feet. Myownword and I have comment plenty of times on how we are not impressed with recruits. We may not have offered specify commentary on film, but we don't make our elevations on an offer list, we both look at film, just like you. It really doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, it matter what the coaches think. I will also say, I do think a offer list is a good gauge in evaluating a prospect. All coaches see the same film. Quit being such a homer. Lol, yeah, because "not impressed" is great commentary. At least I have enough respect for your intelligence to point out what I don't like about a recruit... Where should I start?
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