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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 13:27:32 GMT -8
I too was not praising Rocky. I did not---and as helpful advice--that perhaps your issue might be that you overloaded your college days with too much from the Sociology Department. Others found nothing "confusing" at all about the straight forward logic. I would recommend that you re-read them (if in fact you did at all) and then grab some worry beads. You may be over-stressing on my disapproval of our path, and distracted "leaders". I have no dog in this fight, so my stress level tends toward placid. One thing is certain from reading this forum, Long's coaching skills are not being judged based on the bargain-basement tools he's been given. If you are expecting him to drive some golden nails, don't supply him with a K-Mart hammer. And yet the man continues laboring under such peasant conditions. Why? Because he's "loyal" to SDSU? Based on what? The fact that someone would actually hire him as HC? When no one else in the country wanted him? If he wants to be HC, this is his ONLY hope. And it is our Albatross.
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Post by azteca on Aug 3, 2015 13:46:45 GMT -8
Rocky is a good coach, will he get us to the next level? I'm not sure. But, i know this....without him we wouldn't be where we are! We won't get to the next level till we start winning the games we are supposed to win. Not only win those, dominate those games. There is a reason why the PAC12 don't want us joining......because we don't win on a consistent basis. And even then they don't need us! Back to coach, be thankful for who we have, it could be worse...much worse. It's time for us to stop complaining about our team and support them, heck I'm in Florida and support them 24/7. People know of SDSU here.....and it's not just for basketball either....... ...and it could be better, MUCH better. We might now be discussing realistically entering an upgrade in conferences IF we'd had real leadership running the football program over the past 5 years, instead of pretenders. But with the Three Stooges, we'll likely remain circling this cul-de-sac for years to come. Do you really use the word "refutations" in your daily conversations? You must run with an interesting group of friends.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 14:08:05 GMT -8
...and it could be better, MUCH better. We might now be discussing realistically entering an upgrade in conferences IF we'd had real leadership running the football program over the past 5 years, instead of pretenders. But with the Three Stooges, we'll likely remain circling this cul-de-sac for years to come. Do you really use the word "refutations" in your daily conversations? You must run with an interesting group of friends. Quite interesting actually. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:30:27 GMT -8
MOW, I just thought I'd drop in and mention that you have really recovered from your slow start with this thread. Some of your finest work to date!
Keep this up and you could carry this thread all the way to the season opener.
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Post by ab on Aug 3, 2015 14:47:15 GMT -8
Lugie's inability to recruit replacements for Marshall and Darnay was his biggest downfall. You would have thought we would have been in the running for the Top 10 RB and Top 10 WR after those years. Who recruited the guy who broke Faulk's rushing record before that was again broken last year? As I remember George Jones played the season after Faulk left meaning he must have been recruited by Lugie. I could be misremembering. You missed this... I'm not saying the RB/WR after Marshall/Darnay weren't effective but who were they? Look now at Hoops. Once you start getting 4 star players you had best keep getting them every year or the program will go down. Same for football, with all the publicity San Diego st got from Marshall and even Darnay, top ranked athletes from all over should have been our successful targets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:51:45 GMT -8
Do you really use the word "refutations" in your daily conversations? You must run with an interesting group of friends. Quite interesting actually. Thank you. translated...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 14:53:38 GMT -8
Fresno: "Looks much larger than 41K." Yeah, I'll give you that but OTOH, it doesn't have theater seats and you can't buy beer. Hawaii: "Ain't never been there, they tell it's . . a dump." USU and AFA: "Beautiful surroundings." No denying that, but both stadiums are inferior to Qualcomm. (Unless you like sitting on concrete.) UNR: The Bleacher Reporter is insane. That Erector Set is a complete joke. Boise: Well, I guess if you like a blue field . . . All of these except Hawaii are being renovated/upgraded. Also, given the list places up around 100 out of 128 and wasn't produced by someone with a vendetta against state, well I think you can draw some conclusions about outside perspectives regarding the Q and it's "quality".
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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 14:57:09 GMT -8
Quite interesting actually. Thank you. translated... Have to say, funny.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 15:35:35 GMT -8
MOW, I just thought I'd drop in and mention that you have really recovered from your slow start with this thread. Some of your finest work to date!
Keep this up and you could carry this thread all the way to the season opener. I do appreciate your concern. Your inspiration is duly noted.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 3, 2015 15:37:54 GMT -8
SMH. Your favorite song must be One Note Samba because one note is all you have when discussing the Aztecs. In all this discussion I mentioned Rocky one time when I said, "I doubt that any of Rocky's players would question his ambition and passion." And I never mentioned anything about Sterk or Hirshman. All of this discussion refuting your opinion, by me and others, about coaches and ambition, and this is your conclusion. sigh Your "refutations" only proved that you had not read my posts. But that's fine, you are entitled to remain a retro-booster I suppose it's my fault for thinking that we might have a reasonable, logical discussion. Apparently that is not possible. You accuse others of not reading your posts, but your replies make it appear that you had not read the posts you are replying to. No matter where the discussion is going you go right back to your anti-Rocky, anti-Sterk, anti-Hirshman rant. I'm through trying to communicate with you. I won't be replying to you in this or any other thread. Please do me the same courtesy.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 15:40:00 GMT -8
Your "refutations" only proved that you had not read my posts. But that's fine, you are entitled to remain a retro-booster I suppose it's my fault for thinking that we might have a reasonable, logical discussion. Apparently that is not possible. You accuse others of not reading your posts, but your replies make it appear that you had not read the posts you are replying to. No matter where the discussion is going you go right back to your anti-Rocky, anti-Sterk, anti-Hirshman rant. I'm through trying to communicate with you. I won't be replying to you in this or any other thread. Please do me the same courtesy. Thank you.
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Post by FLAztec4Life on Aug 3, 2015 16:04:37 GMT -8
Rocky is a good coach, will he get us to the next level? I'm not sure. But, i know this....without him we wouldn't be where we are! We won't get to the next level till we start winning the games we are supposed to win. Not only win those, dominate those games. There is a reason why the PAC12 don't want us joining......because we don't win on a consistent basis. And even then they don't need us! Back to coach, be thankful for who we have, it could be worse...much worse. It's time for us to stop complaining about our team and support them, heck I'm in Florida and support them 24/7. People know of SDSU here.....and it's not just for basketball either....... ...and it could be better, MUCH better. We might now be discussing realistically entering an upgrade in conferences IF we'd had real leadership running the football program over the past 5 years, instead of pretenders. But with the Three Stooges, we'll likely remain circling this cul-de-sac for years to come. With that said, we will never know. All I know is fact! Would of, could of...don't get us to 5 bowls. Yes, the "three stooges" suck......but, still doesn't change my love for SDSU! I do get irritated more often then not when it comes to the leadership of the athletic dept. though.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 3, 2015 16:15:23 GMT -8
...and it could be better, MUCH better. We might now be discussing realistically entering an upgrade in conferences IF we'd had real leadership running the football program over the past 5 years, instead of pretenders. But with the Three Stooges, we'll likely remain circling this cul-de-sac for years to come. With that said, we will never know. All I know is fact! Would of, could of...don't get us to 5 bowls. Yes, the "three stooges" suck......but, still doesn't change my love for SDSU! I do get irritated more often then not when it comes to the leadership of the athletic dept. though. Yes we are all guilty of looking past defects. There is a reason old, long-lasting clichés such as, "Love is blind". It is because the phrase contains much truth. I'm afraid that with us, we've been too patient, for too long, and we may have lost a major opportunity to pull ourselves up, out of the muck. A circumstance in which, the affliction of LE (low expectations) has taken root.
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Post by FLAztec4Life on Aug 3, 2015 16:26:24 GMT -8
So true, I think we might have dug a hole so deep that we might not be able to get out of. Aztec football was killed when Chuck Long did his thing, might even go back to further. It's going to take an insane amount of money to right this ship, But it can be done!
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 3, 2015 18:12:24 GMT -8
Who recruited the guy who broke Faulk's rushing record before that was again broken last year? As I remember George Jones played the season after Faulk left meaning he must have been recruited by Lugie. I could be misremembering. You missed this... I'm not saying the RB/WR after Marshall/Darnay weren't effective but who were they? Look now at Hoops. Once you start getting 4 star players you had best keep getting them every year or the program will go down. Same for football, with all the publicity San Diego st got from Marshall and even Darnay, top ranked athletes from all over should have been our successful targets. #1. 300 attempts for 1530 yards. #2. 305 attempts for 1842 yards. #1 above was Faulk's last season. #2 is George Jones two years later. That year the WR were Az Hakim and Will Blackwell. Faulk was not the end of good offensive players.
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Post by Spud on Aug 3, 2015 20:17:01 GMT -8
So true, I think we might have dug a hole so deep that we might not be able to get out of. Aztec football was killed when Chuck Long did his thing, might even go back to further. It's going to take an insane amount of money to right this ship, But it can be done! It goes much farther back than Chuck...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 21:33:05 GMT -8
MOW, I just thought I'd drop in and mention that you have really recovered from your slow start with this thread. Some of your finest work to date!
Keep this up and you could carry this thread all the way to the season opener. I do appreciate your concern. Your inspiration is duly noted. Well, I am not sure concern is the correct word here but okay, if it makes you feel better. Truthfully, I was trying to give you some props for your effort... what is it 'in like a lamb out like a lion'? Good job, old boy!!
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Post by ab on Aug 4, 2015 11:28:23 GMT -8
You missed this... I'm not saying the RB/WR after Marshall/Darnay weren't effective but who were they? Look now at Hoops. Once you start getting 4 star players you had best keep getting them every year or the program will go down. Same for football, with all the publicity San Diego st got from Marshall and even Darnay, top ranked athletes from all over should have been our successful targets. #1. 300 attempts for 1530 yards. #2. 305 attempts for 1842 yards. #1 above was Faulk's last season. #2 is George Jones two years later. That year the WR were Az Hakim and Will Blackwell. Faulk was not the end of good offensive players. Bill- You're failing at reading my posts. Did I say we never got a good player again? Was George Jones a highly ranked HS RB? None of those RBs did anything in the NFL no matter how well they did here. Ronnie Hillman is still a question mark by NFL standards. grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/misc_non_event/fb-records-15.pdf
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Post by mySTRAS on Aug 4, 2015 11:35:22 GMT -8
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Post by FLAztec4Life on Aug 4, 2015 13:31:09 GMT -8
I do appreciate your concern. Your inspiration is duly noted. Well, I am not sure concern is the correct word here but okay, if it makes you feel better. Truthfully, I was trying to give you some props for your effort... what is it 'in like a lamb out like a lion'? Good job, old boy!! Oh, I know! I was going to games back in the Todd Santos era. There is a lot of newer fans on here that only go back that far.
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