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Post by Ozomahtli on Jul 30, 2015 15:51:27 GMT -8
5 straight bowl games right? It was poo poo before he got here, remember? Keep winning and playing in bowls until the stadium issue is resolved. Rocky deserves to coach in the new stadium imho.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 15:57:12 GMT -8
Between 2001 and 2008, Rocky's last 8 seasons coaching at UNM they had an overall record of 43-31 and a conference record of 34-26. Certainly not a world beater, but if he was able to win like that at a place like UNM while BYU, Utah, and TCU(joined 05') we're still in the conference what do you think he can do at SDSU where he finally gets better quality recruits with just Boise as the elite program? Last year his defense willed us to bowl eligibility despite Toledo's offense doing everything it could to ensure we had a letdown of a season. If he can't get the job done here, very soon, he will be gone. The AM fans who can't let it go and focus their energy on something more productive than trying to repeat the mistake UNM has already made are wasting their energy. If you really care about Aztec football so much donate some of your money or time. And yet with all those "Miracles" Rocky Retread performed, lighting up the heavens over New Mexico, no one, NO OTHER football program, ever tapped on his shoulder to save them, as he'd "saved" New Mexico. Utterly baffling that everyone would pass on The Rock---except forlorn SDSU. Instead, we now are the modern day Sisyphus, and passing stones while we're at it.
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Post by aztech on Jul 30, 2015 16:00:56 GMT -8
Between 2001 and 2008, Rocky's last 8 seasons coaching at UNM they had an overall record of 43-31 and a conference record of 34-26. Certainly not a world beater, but if he was able to win like that at a place like UNM while BYU, Utah, and TCU(joined 05') we're still in the conference what do you think he can do at SDSU where he finally gets better quality recruits with just Boise as the elite program? Last year his defense willed us to bowl eligibility despite Toledo's offense doing everything it could to ensure we had a letdown of a season. If he can't get the job done here, very soon, he will be gone. The AM fans who can't let it go and focus their energy on something more productive than trying to repeat the mistake UNM has already made are wasting their energy. If you really care about Aztec football so much donate some of your money or time. I am a donor. Who the hell do you think you are calling out people like that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 16:06:30 GMT -8
Between 2001 and 2008, Rocky's last 8 seasons coaching at UNM they had an overall record of 43-31 and a conference record of 34-26. Certainly not a world beater, but if he was able to win like that at a place like UNM while BYU, Utah, and TCU(joined 05') we're still in the conference what do you think he can do at SDSU where he finally gets better quality recruits with just Boise as the elite program? Last year his defense willed us to bowl eligibility despite Toledo's offense doing everything it could to ensure we had a letdown of a season. If he can't get the job done here, very soon, he will be gone. The AM fans who can't let it go and focus their energy on something more productive than trying to repeat the mistake UNM has already made are wasting their energy. If you really care about Aztec football so much donate some of your money or time. I am a donor. Who the hell do you think you are calling out people like that? Thanks for donating your time and/or money to the program. As to who do I think I am? I'm just another fan, like all the rest. I just have the feeling we are better served focusing on the things we can change/effect right now, then something that wouldn't change until next off season. You may have noticed how important the 2015 season will be to our program and others attempting to make the P5 leap....all hands on deck.
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Post by azteca on Jul 30, 2015 16:08:50 GMT -8
As I recall, there were more issues than just winning and losing. I remember there were "character" issues with more than a few of Luginbill's players.
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Post by AzTex on Jul 30, 2015 16:19:06 GMT -8
As I recall, there were more issues than just winning and losing. I remember there were "character" issues with more than a few of Luginbill's players. I'm not sure which coaching staff(s) had too many players with "character" issues. I won't call out any names since I might be wrong. However, I am very glad that those days have been behind us for a while. I want to be represented by quality people. Our current coaching staffs all seem to understand that importance in their recruiting and in their discipline when a player does start to get out of line.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 30, 2015 18:03:04 GMT -8
The story should also have a flip side. The way I look at Rocky Long is what we saw almost twenty years ago at Utah with Ron McBride. Ron took over a program that could not win in football and made it respectable. Unfortunately, Ron could not take the program to the next level (Elite Bowl games). Towards the end of Ron McBride tenure he was going on a downward spiral with wins and losses. Then Utah fired McBride and took a chance on a Head Coach name Urban Meyers which took the program to the next level. Urban Meyers single handily turned the culture of the locker room and is the biggest reason why they are in the PAC 12. He made his players accountable and got the most out of them. Making up excuses or being mediocre was not in Urban Meyers vocabulary while at Utah. #No more Excuses#
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Post by azteca on Jul 30, 2015 18:08:04 GMT -8
Between 2001 and 2008, Rocky's last 8 seasons coaching at UNM they had an overall record of 43-31 and a conference record of 34-26. Certainly not a world beater, but if he was able to win like that at a place like UNM while BYU, Utah, and TCU(joined 05') we're still in the conference what do you think he can do at SDSU where he finally gets better quality recruits with just Boise as the elite program? Last year his defense willed us to bowl eligibility despite Toledo's offense doing everything it could to ensure we had a letdown of a season. If he can't get the job done here, very soon, he will be gone. The AM fans who can't let it go and focus their energy on something more productive than trying to repeat the mistake UNM has already made are wasting their energy. If you really care about Aztec football so much donate some of your money or time. And yet with all those "Miracles" Rocky Retread performed, lighting up the heavens over New Mexico, no one, NO OTHER football program, ever tapped on his shoulder to save them, as he'd "saved" New Mexico. Utterly baffling that everyone would pass on The Rock---except forlorn SDSU. Instead, we now are the modern day Sisyphus, and passing stones while we're at it. None of us, surely not you, have any idea if Rocky had other offers and chose the Aztecs. If you differently pleas expound. And, speaking of expounding, why do you choose to use words that 99% of the people in this country never use? Are you trying to impress?
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 18:23:25 GMT -8
And yet with all those "Miracles" Rocky Retread performed, lighting up the heavens over New Mexico, no one, NO OTHER football program, ever tapped on his shoulder to save them, as he'd "saved" New Mexico. Utterly baffling that everyone would pass on The Rock---except forlorn SDSU. Instead, we now are the modern day Sisyphus, and passing stones while we're at it. None of us, surely not you, have any idea if Rocky had other offers and chose the Aztecs. If you differently pleas expound. And, speaking of expounding, why do you choose to use words that 99% of the people in this country never use? Are you trying to impress? Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations?
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 30, 2015 18:41:07 GMT -8
If your point is "accountability " isn't a coach who sets rules and then suspends 9 players holding them accountable? If you are comparing McBride and Meyer there is no comparison. I'm sure the Ute fans are much happier with who they have. What am I missing in your point?
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 30, 2015 19:15:17 GMT -8
None of us, surely not you, have any idea if Rocky had other offers and chose the Aztecs. If you differently pleas expound. And, speaking of expounding, why do you choose to use words that 99% of the people in this country never use? Are you trying to impress? Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations? Well aztecfans now we've reached the pinnacle of ignorance. My Own Ignorance (failing in all other dribble) says Rocky's problem is he doesn't aspire to replace Urban Meyer or Bill Billitnikoff. Let's see he's 65 not 35 , he lives in Ocean Beach, ( I wonder if My Own Ignorance knows where that is), he is one of the most revered defensive coaches nationally , coaches from all over try to copy his schemes, and most of all, his players over decades absolutely LOVE him. Just for the record before MOI was around many of us recall that he was offered a spot at Michigan but passed to be here. I hope MOI will eventually understand that emotional factless posts like above make him a laughing stock here.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 30, 2015 19:19:40 GMT -8
Oops! Bill Belichek (sp ) was intended
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 19:23:33 GMT -8
And yet with all those "Miracles" Rocky Retread performed, lighting up the heavens over New Mexico, no one, NO OTHER football program, ever tapped on his shoulder to save them, as he'd "saved" New Mexico. Utterly baffling that everyone would pass on The Rock---except forlorn SDSU. Instead, we now are the modern day Sisyphus, and passing stones while we're at it. None of us, surely not you, have any idea if Rocky had other offers and chose the Aztecs. If you differently pleas expound. And, speaking of expounding, why do you choose to use words that 99% of the people in this country never use? Are you trying to impress? Sorry, didn't respond to your subjoinder, regarding vocabulary. But I disagree with your 99% notion, and I hope you're wrong. I assume the vast majority of the posters on this board are college graduates, and as such, should have no trouble with any words I may chose. So no, I'm not trying to impress. I'm utterly free of any concern about "impressing" anyone here. Just don't care. Words can be fun, if you allow it.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 19:24:44 GMT -8
Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations? Well aztecfans now we've reached the pinnacle of ignorance. My Own Ignorance (failing in all other dribble) says Rocky's problem is he doesn't aspire to replace Urban Meyer or Bill Billitnikoff. Let's see he's 65 not 35 , he lives in Ocean Beach, ( I wonder if My Own Ignorance knows where that is), he is one of the most revered defensive coaches nationally , coaches from all over try to copy his schemes, and most of all, his players over decades absolutely LOVE him. Just for the record before MOI was around many of us recall that he was offered a spot at Michigan but passed to be here. I hope MOI will eventually understand that emotional factless posts like above make him a laughing stock here. Did you really have a point to make, because you just deflated him even more? Good job.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 30, 2015 19:31:45 GMT -8
Actually I've just deflated (easily and once again) MOI. Seriously just once why not suggest to MOI that he post something with some facts or demo some research?
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 19:34:10 GMT -8
Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations? Well aztecfans now we've reached the pinnacle of ignorance. My Own Ignorance (failing in all other dribble) says Rocky's problem is he doesn't aspire to replace Urban Meyer or Bill Billitnikoff. Let's see he's 65 not 35 , he lives in Ocean Beach, ( I wonder if My Own Ignorance knows where that is), he is one of the most revered defensive coaches nationally , coaches from all over try to copy his schemes, and most of all, his players over decades absolutely LOVE him. Just for the record before MOI was around many of us recall that he was offered a spot at Michigan but passed to be here. I hope MOI will eventually understand that emotional factless posts like above make him a laughing stock here. With all of your self-proclaimed superior Football IQ, it's obvious that you are simply smarter than all the other ADs in the country, who have consistently and persistently made Rocky Retread the Amazing Never Been Poached Coach. Congrats.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 19:40:42 GMT -8
If your point is "accountability " isn't a coach who sets rules and then suspends 9 players holding them accountable? If you are comparing McBride and Meyer there is no comparison. I'm sure the Ute fans are much happier with who they have. What am I missing in your point? I agree with you on his discipline and applaud it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 20:16:36 GMT -8
MOW, this thread is tailor made for you. Why so late to the party?
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 30, 2015 20:38:04 GMT -8
None of us, surely not you, have any idea if Rocky had other offers and chose the Aztecs. If you differently pleas expound. And, speaking of expounding, why do you choose to use words that 99% of the people in this country never use? Are you trying to impress? Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations? Have you asked him if he had other offers? He went to NM, he loved the school. He wanted them to succeed. He didn't want to leave. It wasn't about "moving up". The fact he remained loyal speaks to who he is, and shouldn't be used against him.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 30, 2015 20:57:49 GMT -8
Isn't the fact that he is HERE, evidence enough? Or do you take the position that he bolted the doors against poachers, whilst he struggled in New Mexico? He couldn't tear himself away from that powerhouse? And do you, for one minute, think that there would NOT have been a leak to the press, if ANY program had shown interest in Rocky during his time here? If in fact he has actually shunned opportunities to "move up", then what does that say about his ambition? That ALONE should disqualify him as our HC. Are you among the posters who thrill to the Drumbeat of Low Expectations? Have you asked him if he had other offers? He went to NM, he loved the school. He wanted them to succeed. He didn't want to leave. It wasn't about "moving up". The fact he remained loyal speaks to who he is, and shouldn't be used against him. That's a nice love story. But when it comes to the football program, I would prefer a warrior, not a wife. A man that's "content" is a man not taking anyone, anywhere. In my opinion.
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