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Post by laaztec on May 18, 2015 11:15:47 GMT -8
Shaqquan is "Skip-to-my-Lou smooth"...would be fun like Jamaal to watch. If his options are USC behind Jordan McLaughlin and a long list of PGs/SGs coming to town vs SDSU with Jeremy Helmsley and lower ranked PGs/SGs then I would think SDSU is a better home. It all comes down to his confidence about his own defensive intensity which appears good in clips. While USC sounds more appealing in terms of booster gimmes and quality of education, they lack any history of developing NBA talent under the current coaching regime. Also, at SDSU, basketball players are BMOC, while Trojan basketball players are FMOC (Forgotten Men On Campus). Boy is that true. If he wants immediate playing time in front of 500 fans a night he will go to U$C. If he wants to win and be a part of a "Team" and play in front of 12,414 every night he will come to SDSU.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on May 18, 2015 11:16:52 GMT -8
As far as talent around him I think he'd be a great fit for SDSU, since we're going to need a SF pretty badly after Pope leaves. Leonard, Franklin, and Pope all have made or will make the NBA so that should be pretty good ammo for recruiting at that position I would think. We only have a spot available if Narain stays 2016 though right? So if Shaqquan does decide he wants to come here, would we tell Narain to stay 2016 and risk him getting poached? I wonder which guy is higher on the priority list for us to get... I'd vote to not get Aaron and have Narain for 2015 to make sure we get him since he's a quality big
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Post by ignoranus on May 18, 2015 11:34:39 GMT -8
Perhaps young Mr. Hoetzel can "take one for the team" and have his family pay for his redshirt year, going on full ride next year? Such a move would make room for everyone and result in a better team next year. A la AQ, sort of.
File this under: "Creative player roster improvement solutions".
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Post by dunksalot on May 18, 2015 11:37:03 GMT -8
Also, at SDSU, basketball players are BMOC, while Trojan basketball players are FMOC (Forgotten Men On Campus). Boy is that true. If he wants immediate playing time in front of 500 fans a night he will go to U$C. If he wants to win and be a part of a "Team" and play in front of 12,414 every night he will come to SDSU. Close...I Googled it and USC averages 4,370. To me, SDSU is much further away from the hood, thugs, and gangs. You have to travel 20 miles to find it here in SD and it's far less influential than in LA. This to me is where that conversation with Mom comes into play.
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Post by ignoranus on May 18, 2015 11:46:18 GMT -8
How has USC done in MM over the last five years? I vaguely remember a sweet sixteen trip a while back, and nothing else.
The MM Tourney is the BEST opportunity for players to get national recognition.
The Aztecs last LVL transfer turned out to be pretty good.
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Post by sdcoug on May 18, 2015 12:09:26 GMT -8
Shaqquan is "Skip-to-my-Lou smooth"...would be fun like Jamaal to watch. If his options are USC behind Jordan McLaughlin and a long list of PGs/SGs coming to town vs SDSU with Jeremy Helmsley and lower ranked PGs/SGs then I would think SDSU is a better home. It all comes down to his confidence about his own defensive intensity which appears good in clips. While USC sounds more appealing in terms of booster gimmes and quality of education, they lack any history of developing NBA talent under the current coaching regime. USC is relatively thin in the backcourt. They basically have McLaughlin, Reinhardt & Stewart, and Reinhardt (if he's not suspended as usual) would be a senior by the time Aaron got there. Marquetti & Martin weren't all that good IMO, but they were FR. Seems like we actually have as much if not more depth with Kell, Hemsley, Shrigs, Allen & others.
Either way, I don't think 1 offers that much more of advantage - PT-wise - over the other.
BUT, do believe both offer more potential PT than Oregon or even UW.
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on May 18, 2015 12:37:37 GMT -8
Does a Financial Aid Package count as a scholarship? How much can SDSU give? Can a booster pay for a student athelete's tuition and expenses? If any of these are viable, I'm sure we could get it done somehow.
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Post by Gundo on May 18, 2015 12:43:51 GMT -8
Does a Financial Aid Package count as a scholarship? How much can SDSU give? Can a booster pay for a student athelete's tuition and expenses? If any of these are viable, I'm sure we could get it done somehow. Even with the addition of Max Hoetzel, we have one scholarship open for 2015, unless Nolan Narain reclassifies, then Houston we have a problem. I feel this kid just wants PT, he left Louisville along with Anton Gill and just a couple of 5th year transfers ahead of him. I guess he got Pitino'd and saw the writing on the wall. SDSU is a better team and environment, USC may just give him for freedom.
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on May 18, 2015 13:27:53 GMT -8
Does a Financial Aid Package count as a scholarship? How much can SDSU give? Can a booster pay for a student athelete's tuition and expenses? If any of these are viable, I'm sure we could get it done somehow. Even with the addition of Max Hoetzel, we have one scholarship open for 2015, unless Nolan Narain reclassifies, then Houston we have a problem. I feel this kid just wants PT, he left Louisville along with Anton Gill and just a couple of 5th year transfers ahead of him. I guess he got Pitino'd and saw the writing on the wall. SDSU is a better team and environment, USC may just give him for freedom. I want all 3 here this year! Let Hoetzel and Aaron do their redshirt, let the coaches make a decision on Narain's yes or no redshirt status if he re-classifies for this year.If the decision is for Narain to RedShirt,Let them all get their work in practice, in the new JAM Center,Weight Room and CLASSROOM so we have no issues going forward. Makes us stronger in the long run and those 3 will play 2 years with Hemsley,Kell,Z and Jones.
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Post by sdcoug on May 18, 2015 13:32:35 GMT -8
Does a Financial Aid Package count as a scholarship? YES, it does. The only difference between a LOI & just signing scholarship papers is LOI binds the kid to the university & SDSU would then need to release him if he changes his mind How much can SDSU give? All that matters in the equation is the scholarship limit. Can a booster pay for a student athelete's tuition and expenses? No. If any of these are viable, I'm sure we could get it done somehow. The only option is for someone to pay their own freight, which I don't see happening.
Basically 5 things can happen: 1. Aaron chooses SDSU & Narain reclassifies to 2015, with someone paying their own freight (most unlikely IMO) 2. Same scenario, except someone else leaves, opening up another scholarship 3. Aaron chooses SDSU and Narain stays 2016 4. Aaron doesn't choose SDSU and Narain classifies to 2015 5. Aaron doesn't choose SDSU, Narain stays 2016 & someone else magically appears for 2015
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on May 18, 2015 13:33:08 GMT -8
Then get Cage Jr and Kone......LOL
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on May 18, 2015 13:35:20 GMT -8
Does a Financial Aid Package count as a scholarship? YES, it does. The only difference between a LOI & just signing scholarship papers is LOI binds the kid to the university & SDSU would then need to release him if he changes his mind How much can SDSU give? All that matters in the equation is the scholarship limit. Can a booster pay for a student athelete's tuition and expenses? No. If any of these are viable, I'm sure we could get it done somehow. The only option is for someone to pay their own freight, which I don't see happening.
Basically 4 things can happen: 1. Aaron chooses SDSU & Narain reclassifies to 2015, with someone paying their own freight (most unlikely IMO) 2. Same scenario, except someone else leaves, opening up another scholarship 3. Aaron chooses SDSU and Narain stays 2016 3. Aaron doesn't choose SDSU and Narain classifies to 2015 4. Aaron doesn't choose SDSU, Narain stays 2016 & someone else magically appears for 2015
Dag Nab It! Option #3
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Post by craztec on May 18, 2015 14:35:16 GMT -8
Boy is that true. If he wants immediate playing time in front of 500 fans a night he will go to U$C. If he wants to win and be a part of a "Team" and play in front of 12,414 every night he will come to SDSU. Close...I Googled it and USC averages 4,370. To me, SDSU is much further away from the hood, thugs, and gangs. You have to travel 20 miles to find it here in SD and it's far less influential than in LA. This to me is where that conversation with Mom comes into play. More like a couple of miles, but I get what you're saying.
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Post by standiego on May 18, 2015 14:43:15 GMT -8
Narain is the cornerstone of the Aztecs going forward . So we do what he wants to do for 2015 or 2016 . He could also assist the team in recruiting other players . we told him he can do whatever he prefers . Aztec coaches need to do what ever is needed to land Narain , when he chooses to come in. Then Aaron and others for 2016 , if we want to have a decent run in MM 2016 . We need Narain and Aaron to do that .
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on May 18, 2015 16:28:10 GMT -8
So, if we have offered scholarships to Narain,Hoetzel(Both are verbal commits)and we invite Aaron in for a 3 day visit after those and would guess made him an offer ? Coaches must know Narain will be 2016? (but are not allowed to comment), so Aaron and Hoetzel will get their scholarships? Or offers and verbal commits mean nothing? (could come back to haunt?) So we just wait on Narain to figure out what he wants to do? And meanwhile one of the other two are left hanging in the wind? Coaches must have some kind of inside knowledge.
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Post by twobits on May 18, 2015 16:47:19 GMT -8
Guess I'm in the minority on not wanting Aaron on the squad...talent not withstanding, he seems to be different than most players we pursue in having high character. That is part of the reason every player has had good things to say about our program...even Zabo on his way out the door put in a good word to Narrain.
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Post by oxomo on May 18, 2015 17:13:09 GMT -8
Boy is that true. If he wants immediate playing time in front of 500 fans a night he will go to U$C. If he wants to win and be a part of a "Team" and play in front of 12,414 every night he will come to SDSU. Close...I Googled it and USC averages 4,370. To me, SDSU is much further away from the hood, thugs, and gangs. You have to travel 20 miles to find it here in SD and it's far less influential than in LA. This to me is where that conversation with Mom comes into play. That number actually surprises me (although certainly not saying it isn't true). Watched some of their games this year. Very sparse. One particular game, at a critical time out, the DJ played, "YMCA". I was LOL. Needless to say, they lost. ;-) Man, just saying I really appreciate the music and vibe at SDSU games. Good stuff.
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Post by sdcoug on May 18, 2015 17:20:46 GMT -8
So, if we have offered scholarships to Narain,Hoetzel(Both are verbal commits)and we invite Aaron in for a 3 day visit after those and would guess made him an offer ? Coaches must know Narain will be 2016? (but are not allowed to comment), so Aaron and Hoetzel will get their scholarships? Or offers and verbal commits mean nothing? (could come back to haunt?) So we just wait on Narain to figure out what he wants to do? And meanwhile one of the other two are left hanging in the wind? Coaches must have some kind of inside knowledge. You're correct. We know Hoetzel has an offer, as does Narain, and both have committed. If we are bringing in Aaron that tells me we are interested and (unless he made a bad impression) we offered him. So have to assume coaches know Narain is leaning 2016. We are not going to leave Aaron hanging.
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Post by standiego on May 18, 2015 18:05:08 GMT -8
Would guess if Narain has said what year he expects to actually become an Aztec( still hope we seal the deal, as of now he is the key going forward . . the coaches would have "accidently ' said something to Zeigler to mention . Maybe Narain does not know . If the coaches did not have major interest in Aaron , would doubt they would have asked him to come visit the campus . But you know it will be a major battle with USC for him . They do have a lot of money to toss out there and sizzle , an up tempo style of play the thought they will build the offense around him. and . So first we wait to get the answer from Nolan and Aaron . Aztecs could always ask Max to walk on for 2015 , with scholarship for 2016 .Aaron would be out of state rates , so no way does he walk on .
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Post by dunksalot on May 18, 2015 18:38:17 GMT -8
So, if we have offered scholarships to Narain,Hoetzel(Both are verbal commits)and we invite Aaron in for a 3 day visit after those and would guess made him an offer ? Coaches must know Narain will be 2016? (but are not allowed to comment), so Aaron and Hoetzel will get their scholarships? Or offers and verbal commits mean nothing? (could come back to haunt?) So we just wait on Narain to figure out what he wants to do? And meanwhile one of the other two are left hanging in the wind? Coaches must have some kind of inside knowledge. You're correct. We know Hoetzel has an offer, as does Narain, and both have committed. If we are bringing in Aaron that tells me we are interested and (unless he made a bad impression) we offered him. So have to assume coaches know Narain is leaning 2016. We are not going to leave Aaron hanging.
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