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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 12:33:11 GMT -8
Here are my thoughts on the latest exchanges:
After watching for a few years, here's is my assessment, Jamaal will never turn it down. Ever. He'll never back down from a confrontation and he'll always play close to the line. He won't cross it but he'll always have you questioning it. Believe it or not, coaches love it. They rather have players that they have to calm down rather than a player they have to rev up. You can't teach motor. Too often Jamaal's motor and fire for competition is mistaken for a bad attitude. That claim is unfounded. If he was a punk, it would show in his relationship with his coaches and teammates. Will he try to punk the opponent? Hell Yes. Notice, he goes for the head of the snake, not the weakest link.
The Syracuse game would have a much different result indoors. I agree the Carrier Classic is a great event to honor vets, but it should be an exhibition game if they insist on playing outdoors. Since neither team could use it's full arsenal, the game is not worth analyzing from a basketball standpoint. However, through 2 games, our FT shooting is an embarassment.
I agree with everyones conclusion that Chase is a better fundamental basketball player than Jamaal. It's not even close. Chase is about as polished as you can get for College basketball player. Jamaal is fundamentally flawed. With that being said, Jamaal presents a much bigger problem for the opposition than Chase does. In 2 games, he's already been to the line 22 times. His motor is off the charts. Once he combines his physical talent with sound fundamentals he'll be a great player. Despite the desparity in their fundamentals, Jamaal is SDSU's top producer on a regular basis. Chase has mastered what can be taught. Jamaal's talent lies in things you can't teach. Both players have equal opportunity to impress NBA scouts. Jamaal is a sound 1st Rd pick and Chase is a sound 2nd Rd pick IMO.
I thought Dwayne Polee was a much better player than I'm seeing. He looks smaller than he did at St. Johns.
Matt Shrigley made the right choice to Red shirt. If he were in uniform Fisher would be log jammed on the bench with Polee and Rahon getting the short end of the stick.
I expect more from Deshawn Stephens. He has to do a better job finishing and making FTs. X Thames hasn't impressed me yet either.
Skylar Spencers flop made me spill my drink! Hilarious. I wonder if the NBA sent him a "warning" just because...
LBF just isn't in Fisher's Top 10 and he never will be. Not this year, not next year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 12:48:41 GMT -8
Agree with everything except Shrigley playing means Rahon gets the short end of the stick.
Fisher has shown no problem benching upper classmen for talented freshman.
Rahon's defense is lightyears ahead of Shrigley, that's the main reason why he's so far ahead of him ont he depth chart.
Shrigley redshirting is because his playing time would have suffered. Not Rahon's.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 12:48:59 GMT -8
Otherwise a very accurate and well thought out post.
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 14, 2012 12:55:20 GMT -8
He'll never back down from a confrontation and he'll always play close to the line. He won't cross it but he'll always have you questioning it. Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team.
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 12:55:35 GMT -8
Agree with everything except Shrigley playing means Rahon gets the short end of the stick. Fisher has shown no problem benching upper classmen for talented freshman. Rahon's defense is lightyears ahead of Shrigley, that's the main reason why he's so far ahead of him ont he depth chart. Shrigley redshirting is because his playing time would have suffered. Not Rahon's. I have to give Rahon's defense the credit it deserves. During the Syracuse game, Jamaal gambled trying to get steals guarding CJ Fair...CJ scored both times. Another time Jamaal left Fair open in transition, the result....a wide open 3. When I saw James guarding Fair, he didn't gamble, he didn't try to take the ball, he simple moved his feet keeping himself between that man and the basket. That's what defense is about. If Jamaal can learn the values of keeping it simple, he'll improve tremendously. Rahon is a very good fundamental defender.
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Post by saucematix on Nov 14, 2012 12:57:03 GMT -8
thought Polee would play a much larger role. Barely cracks the regular rotation. Was highly rated out of high school and recruited by everyone.
I think good call on Shrigs... he would help this year, but will help a lot more next year.
I see recruiting tanking it as we are in big west. Every other school is saying "have fun riding on busses with the Aztecs playing in high school gyms"
ALso agreed on midway. we didnt have a shot, not a true basketball game. shots literally flying everywhere in wind.
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 12:58:04 GMT -8
He'll never back down from a confrontation and he'll always play close to the line. He won't cross it but he'll always have you questioning it. Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. He hasn't crossed it. To say Jamaal is just a lose cannon is a disrespect to Fisher. Fisher wouldn't allow that on his team. If Jamaal was as big a problem in that department as some would suggest, he would have been gone a long time ago. Jamaal has a rough edge that this team desperately needs. Fisher sees that.
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 13:01:03 GMT -8
thought Polee would play a much larger role. Barely cracks the regular rotation. Was highly rated out of high school and recruited by everyone. I think good call on Shrigs... he would help this year, but will help a lot more next year. I see recruiting tanking it as we are in big west. Every other school is saying "have fun riding on busses with the Aztecs playing in high school gyms" ALso agreed on midway. we didnt have a shot, not a true basketball game. shots literally flying everywhere in wind. Polee lost his spot in the rotation in practice. The jury is still out on the effects of the Big West. UCLA alomost lost to a Big West team last night. If SDSU continues to win and does well in the tournament, the Big West won't deter the type of talent it's used to getting. And it surely won't deter players looking to transfer.
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 14, 2012 13:04:06 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. He hasn't crossed it. To say Jamaal is just a lose cannon is a disrespect to Fisher. Fisher wouldn't allow that on his team. If Jamaal was as big a problem in that department as some would suggest, he would have been gone a long time ago. Jamaal has a rough edge that this team desperately needs. Fisher sees that. Agree 100%
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 13:09:23 GMT -8
He'll never back down from a confrontation and he'll always play close to the line. He won't cross it but he'll always have you questioning it. Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 13:10:24 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. He hasn't crossed it. To say Jamaal is just a lose cannon is a disrespect to Fisher. Fisher wouldn't allow that on his team. If Jamaal was as big a problem in that department as some would suggest, he would have been gone a long time ago. Jamaal has a rough edge that this team desperately needs. Fisher sees that. So flipping off whomever at mid-court is defined as not crossing the line?
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Post by aztecfred on Nov 14, 2012 13:11:27 GMT -8
Why BBA a Guest? Did I miss something?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 13:11:30 GMT -8
Polee, so far, has honestly been a bit of a disappointment. For a guy who can jump high and has been touted as the best athlete on the team, he seems almost clumsy out there on the court. Bad hands, bad handles, bad jumper. I will certainly give him the benefit of the doubt, will take some more games to get back in the swing of things. We really need him to be more effective though, hoping for some rapid improvement.
One thing though is he does not seem comfortable working the high post. He is just not a post player and is more of a slasher. Its like the staff is trying to turn him into the next Billy White or something and its just not part of his skill set. Also, he is just not strong enough to be mixing it up inside. Doesnt seem to have the body type that will allow him to get much bigger either. Extremely thin.
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Post by Aztecole on Nov 14, 2012 13:14:57 GMT -8
I agree with your assessment. Polee seems to still be lost out there and not very confident. I think that ones he finds his role and identity as a player we will start to see better play from him.
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 14, 2012 13:22:22 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Kobe talks and complains more than anyone.
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Post by aztecmichael on Nov 14, 2012 13:22:35 GMT -8
thought Polee would play a much larger role. Barely cracks the regular rotation. Was highly rated out of high school and recruited by everyone. I think good call on Shrigs... he would help this year, but will help a lot more next year. I see recruiting tanking it as we are in big west. Every other school is saying "have fun riding on busses with the Aztecs playing in high school gyms" ALso agreed on midway. we didnt have a shot, not a true basketball game. shots literally flying everywhere in wind. It's too early to know who polee is as a player. He is also rusty from sitting out. But one thing I do know is he must get stronger. Right now, the kid takes one dribble and somebody knocks it away from him. Either very rusty and anxious or very weak hands and arms. The guy needs to toughen up. Otherwise, he will NOT play. Bench players can't come in and throw the ball away.
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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 14, 2012 13:32:28 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. He hasn't crossed it. To say Jamaal is just a lose cannon is a disrespect to Fisher. Fisher wouldn't allow that on his team. If Jamaal was as big a problem in that department as some would suggest, he would have been gone a long time ago. Jamaal has a rough edge that this team desperately needs. Fisher sees that. Also agree 100% Jamaal is the type of player who has the stones to take the big shot & the heat if he fails, then get right on the floor again for some more. He may not be your clean cut Indiana/Duke style of player, but good lord I'd rather have his aggressive play/antics than a real head case like some of those UCLA players of recent years.
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 13:33:29 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Both Kobe and MJ have been suspended from games for fighting. Kobe went on a streak of purposely elbowing guys in the face after getting fouled. Would you consider that crossing the line?
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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 14, 2012 13:36:30 GMT -8
BBA who do you predict will step up as the 3rd leading scorer on the team? For us to have success deep into the tournament we need to have 3 scorers averaging 10+ points a game. We will lose any game in the tourney where we do not have 3 players above 10 points.
Rahon is a very streaky shooter and about 65 percent of the time he will have an off night. I believe Stephens needs to be that 3rd scorer with consistent points but I'm not sure if he can be that guy with his poor free throw shooting.
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 13:37:56 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Here is a video of Kobe crossing the line numerous times.
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