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Post by danloc09 on Nov 14, 2012 13:42:23 GMT -8
BBA who do you predict will step up as the 3rd leading scorer on the team? For us to have success deep into the tournament we need to have 3 scorers averaging 10+ points a game. We will lose any game in the tourney where we do not have 3 players above 10 points. Rahon is a very streaky shooter and about 65 percent of the time he will have an off night. I believe Stephens needs to be that 3rd scorer with consistent points but I'm not sure if he can be that guy with his poor free throw shooting. What? What if 2 get 15, and then 4 get 8? |
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Post by miners22 on Nov 14, 2012 13:43:02 GMT -8
If a couple of my biggest enemies call me to meet them in a "dark alley",
I am talking Jamaal with me! Go Aztecs!
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 13:45:29 GMT -8
BBA who do you predict will step up as the 3rd leading scorer on the team? For us to have success deep into the tournament we need to have 3 scorers averaging 10+ points a game. We will lose any game in the tourney where we do not have 3 players above 10 points. Rahon is a very streaky shooter and about 65 percent of the time he will have an off night. I believe Stephens needs to be that 3rd scorer with consistent points but I'm not sure if he can be that guy with his poor free throw shooting. The obvious candidate would be Xavier Thames. He'll get close to 30 mpg and he's a willing shooter. If Deshawn could make FTs he's be up there too. I don't see Rahon averaging over 20 mpg so I don't think it will be him. JJ will have him minutes carved into by Winston and Johnson as the year progresses. |
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 13:46:25 GMT -8
If a couple of my biggest enemies call me to meet them in a "dark alley", I am talking Jamaal with me! Go Aztecs! Me too. And if I need a sniper on the roof, I'm calling Chase Tapley! |
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 13:54:29 GMT -8
This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Here is a video of Kobe crossing the line numerous times. Did he even get a foul call? Huge difference in what you posted. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 13:55:13 GMT -8
This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Both Kobe and MJ have been suspended from games for fighting. Kobe went on a streak of purposely elbowing guys in the face after getting fouled. Would you consider that crossing the line? LOl Oops..I got pwned...My bad. :-) |
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Post by seagull on Nov 14, 2012 13:59:50 GMT -8
I agree with your initial analysis, BBA.
The one thing I would like to change in Jamaal is his histrionics when he is getting fouled. Skylar's flop shows that he has been watching Jamaal. I would guess that most officials would be swayed to not make the call in favor of Jamaal, but, rather, to go against him. They don't want to reward the player who goes way out of his way to make the ref blow his whistle. I think his theatrics work against him. After Skylar's flop, the ref must have said to him, "Son, you don't have to do cartwheels to help me see you were fouled."
Jamaal's aggressiveness toward other players does go right up to the line, and I think does cross it a bit. The Kemba flop should have taught Jamaal an early lesson, but he hasn't picked up on that one yet. Smarter players will take advantage of Jamaal's aggressiveness to use it against him.
Jamaal is definitely not a punk. He's a good guy and mostly misunderstood. I just worry that he impresses referees in the wrong direction.
I'm very proud Jamaal is an Aztec!
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Post by Dave L on Nov 14, 2012 14:07:05 GMT -8
I agree with your initial analysis, BBA. The one thing I would like to change in Jamaal is his histrionics when he is getting fouled. Skylar's flop shows that he has been watching Jamaal. I would guess that most officials would be swayed to not make the call in favor of Jamaal, but, rather, to go against him. They don't want to reward the player who goes way out of his way to make the ref blow his whistle. I think his theatrics work against him. After Skylar's flop, the ref must have said to him, "Son, you don't have to do cartwheels to help me see you were fouled." Jamaal's aggressiveness toward other players does go right up to the line, and I think does cross it a bit. The Kemba flop should have taught Jamaal an early lesson, but he hasn't picked up on that one yet. Smarter players will take advantage of Jamaal's aggressiveness to use it against him. Jamaal is definitely not a punk. He's a good guy and mostly misunderstood. I just worry that he impresses referees in the wrong direction. I'm very proud Jamaal is an Aztec! Agree 100% on every word.  |
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 14, 2012 14:10:38 GMT -8
I agree with your initial analysis, BBA. The one thing I would like to change in Jamaal is his histrionics when he is getting fouled. Skylar's flop shows that he has been watching Jamaal. I would guess that most officials would be swayed to not make the call in favor of Jamaal, but, rather, to go against him. They don't want to reward the player who goes way out of his way to make the ref blow his whistle. I think his theatrics work against him. After Skylar's flop, the ref must have said to him, "Son, you don't have to do cartwheels to help me see you were fouled." Jamaal's aggressiveness toward other players does go right up to the line, and I think does cross it a bit. The Kemba flop should have taught Jamaal an early lesson, but he hasn't picked up on that one yet. Smarter players will take advantage of Jamaal's aggressiveness to use it against him. Jamaal is definitely not a punk. He's a good guy and mostly misunderstood. I just worry that he impresses referees in the wrong direction. I'm very proud Jamaal is an Aztec! Honestly that is probably true, but he also probably gets more calls than he should at times for the same reason. It works both ways. |
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Post by rebelsfan43 on Nov 14, 2012 14:12:18 GMT -8
BBA. VERY ACCURATE POST! I think your defense is VERY good good. I knew polee would suck. he sucked at st johns. I think o brien has potential
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Post by BBA on Nov 14, 2012 14:28:56 GMT -8
BBA. VERY ACCURATE POST! I think your defense is VERY good good. I knew polee would suck. he sucked at st johns. I think o brien has potential I think unlv sucks. |
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Nov 14, 2012 14:59:11 GMT -8
I agree with everything in the OP BBA.
For me personally, the biggest gap between my expectations and the observed reality so far has been with regards to Polee's play off the bench. And somebody needs to forcefeed that cat a biscuit, because he makes LBF look prison yoked.
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Post by MontezumasRevenge on Nov 14, 2012 15:10:05 GMT -8
Actually, he has already either crossed it or has come way too close to crossing it for comfort. What worries everyone on this board (and in the seats) is that a guy like JF is so used to tearing around with his foot all the way to the floorboard that he won't be able to find the brakes are when he needs them. Just sayin'. Otherwise, an astute assessment of the team. This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Except when it comes to female hotel workers and gambling... |
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Nov 14, 2012 15:12:15 GMT -8
I just hate how the subject of Jamaal is so polarizing. It seems everyone is either "JAMAAL IS INFALLIBLE NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE HIM" or "JAMAAL IS A PUNK I'M EMBARRASSED HE"S ON OUR TEAM".
Facts about Jamaal (some of them my opinion, some of them objective):
-he is our best player
-he acts like an asshole on the court
-he is a tremendously hard worker (and from what I can tell, a good dude) off the court
-he flipped off a ref in a nationally televised game (anybody who doesn't think this is a big deal is an idiot)
-from an opponent's perspective, he has to be the most hated player we've ever had. And there are no close seconds. (This is a positive, to me.)
-I'm constantly afraid he's going to lose his $#!+ and do something really stupid during a game. That's just me though. I could be way off.
The bottom line is, as BBA alluded to, if Steve Fisher trusts Jamaal, then I trust Jamaal.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 15:16:19 GMT -8
This...the middle finger, shoulder bumping and now the BS chippy stuff vs. the Cuse show he's more than willing to cross it. Guys who get close who never cross it are guys like Kobe and MJ. Except when it comes to female hotel workers and gambling... They were on the court? |
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Post by MarshallU on Nov 14, 2012 15:26:23 GMT -8
I just hate how the subject of Jamaal is so polarizing. It seems everyone is either "JAMAAL IS INFALLIBLE NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE HIM" or "JAMAAL IS A PUNK I'M EMBARRASSED HE"S ON OUR TEAM". Facts about Jamaal (some of them my opinion, some of them objective): -he is our best player -he acts like an asshole on the court -he is a tremendously hard worker (and from what I can tell, a good dude) off the court -he flipped off a ref in a nationally televised game (anybody who doesn't think this is a big deal is an idiot) -from an opponent's perspective, he has to be the most hated player we've ever had. And there are no close seconds. (This is a positive, to me.) -I'm constantly afraid he's going to lose his $#!+ and do something really stupid during a game. That's just me though. I could be way off. The bottom line is, as BBA alluded to, if Steve Fisher trusts Jamaal, then I trust Jamaal. i don't think anyone has ever gone down the "he's infallible and can't be criticized" road with JF. |
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Post by sdgaucho on Nov 14, 2012 16:20:43 GMT -8
I agree with everything in the OP BBA. For me personally, the biggest gap between my expectations and the observed reality so far has been with regards to Polee's play off the bench. And somebody needs to forcefeed that cat a biscuit, because he makes LBF look prison yoked. I think its too early to write polee off. He's getting familiar with the system and players around him. He has a nice stroke from the line and the sample size for his midrange game is too small. I just can't figure out where he fits in the system. He's going to have to use his athleticism to grab boards and put backs. I am disappointed in his handles, seems very shaky dribbling the ball. I am hoping he comes around because we can use his length. His arms are ridiculously long. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using proboards |
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Post by bearfoot on Nov 14, 2012 19:55:04 GMT -8
BBA who do you predict will step up as the 3rd leading scorer on the team? For us to have success deep into the tournament we need to have 3 scorers averaging 10+ points a game. We will lose any game in the tourney where we do not have 3 players above 10 points. Rahon is a very streaky shooter and about 65 percent of the time he will have an off night. I believe Stephens needs to be that 3rd scorer with consistent points but I'm not sure if he can be that guy with his poor free throw shooting. Besides it is too early to determine who will play when and all the rest, I believe the personality of the team may take a slight turn when J Johnson begins playing. To answer your question, J J will be the 3rd option. additionally, I have had reservations about Polee also, but he will add to the team in certain situations. I can see him guarding Snell from UNM. He is an amazing athlete and Coach knows how to get the most out of his players. he will find a place for Polee. |
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Post by swagtecnation05 on Nov 14, 2012 20:02:04 GMT -8
correc me if im wrong and put it back in my face if i am, but has jamaal ever gotten teed up, or cost us a game, or gotten suspended for something ON the court (DUI is off). The point is on the court Jamaal is a different type of player, but hes our player and he has done nothing but help us win games. without him who knows how last year would have went and how this year would go. Anybody who has ever played any sports throughout their lives know that its better to be overly agressive than overly passive. If i have to put up with Jamaal doing no looking passes and flopping every once and a while and arguing with the refs, ill take it if it comes with 28 and 12.
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Post by sdsportfan on Nov 14, 2012 20:49:39 GMT -8
He got a t when Kamba flopped in the sweet sixteen, some argue he cost us the most important game in Aztec history
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